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  1. #1171
    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    After finishing 7-5?
    Yup.

  2. #1172
    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrenrut View Post
    I have never liked the special treatment Notre Dame gets, going back to the BCS days. They are treated as unique and elite, and I like to see them get knocked down a notch.
    Notre Dame and Stanford think they are really important. Nice that somebody has to lose

  3. #1173
    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight Schr-Ute View Post
    Todd Graham official. What have the Sun Devils done to think they deserve better than 7-5 when it includes an $11M buyout?
    Wow, 7-5 and 2nd in the division. Do they have someone in mind?

  4. #1174
    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Wow, 7-5 and 2nd in the division. Do they have someone in mind?
    They are going for chip Kelly... if not him dennis Erickson

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  5. #1175
    Quote Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
    They are going for chip Kelly... if not him dennis Erickson
    If they approach me, I might just look at USC, at Chip Kelly at UCLA, at Kyle Whittingham, and at RichRod, and then I might pass and take a job in a different conference.

  6. #1176
    So, anyone want to argue scheduling up OOC anymore or the virtues of a 9 game conference schedule?

    Ha ha. Once again old uncle Utah was right.

    Every conference champ with an 8 game conf schedule has made the playoffs.

    40% if conference champs with a 9 game conf schedule have made the playoffs.

    https://twitter.com/picksixpreviews/...44180369125376

    Smart teams, Alabama/Washington, schedule down.

    Not smart teams, USC and Stanford, schedule up and miss the playoffs.
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  7. #1177
    For the record, I think two rules should be in place:

    - No playoff team can have played a G5 or FCS team after Nov 1.

    - No playoff team can play less than 10 P5 schools (not counting conference championship).

    Those two rules would even out the playing field really fast.

    Until then, schedule down.

  8. #1178
    Quote Originally Posted by Utah View Post
    So, anyone want to argue scheduling up OOC anymore or the virtues of a 9 game conference schedule?

    Ha ha. Once again old uncle Utah was right.

    Every conference champ with an 8 game conf schedule has made the playoffs.

    40% if conference champs with a 9 game conf schedule has made the playoffs.

    https://twitter.com/picksixpreviews/...44180369125376

    Smart teams, Alabama/Washington, schedule down.

    Not smart teams, USC and Stanford, schedule up and miss the playoffs.
    Yep. It sends the wrong message. I would have voted for OSU for scheduling Oklahoma and playing a 9 game conference schedule, even though it was destroyed at Iowa. Alabama played nobody, and didnt make its title game. Teams that played title games got punished, those that didnt--including UW--got rewarded.

    However, Standford lost to USC twice and WSU once. It lost to SDSU; that is not scheduling up.

    USC also lost to WSU and got destroyed at Notre Dame. Should they not schedle the Irish anymore?

  9. #1179
    Quote Originally Posted by Utah View Post
    For the record, I think two rules should be in place:

    - No playoff team can have played a G5 or FCS team after Nov 1.

    - No playoff team can play less than 10 P5 schools (not counting conference championship).

    Those two rules would even out the playing field really fast.

    Until then, schedule down.
    There definitely should be something to normalize the schedules. As is, the committee has an impossible task in comparison, and it naturally boils down to the eye test.

    This should be easy to fix, but in college football nothing is easy.

  10. #1180
    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    Should they not schedle the Irish anymore?
    No, they shouldn't. That's the lame "rivalry" that keeps messing with good Pac-12 ideas (like the Big10/Pac-12 challenge).

    The committee seems to rank in the following order:

    1. Schedule up and win.
    2. Schedule down and win.
    3. Schedule up and lose.

  11. #1181
    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    Yep. It sends the wrong message. I would have voted for OSU for scheduling Oklahoma and playing a 9 game conference schedule, even though it was destroyed at Iowa. Alabama played nobody, and didnt make its title game. Teams that played title games got punished, those that didnt--including UW--got rewarded.

    However, Standford lost to USC twice and WSU once. It lost to SDSU; that is not scheduling up.

    USC also lost to WSU and got destroyed at Notre Dame. Should they not schedle the Irish anymore?
    I brought up Stanford in reference to the year they lost to Northwestern to start the year.

    They missed the playoffs that year. Had they played SJSU instead, they would have been in.

  12. #1182
    Quote Originally Posted by Utah View Post
    I brought up Stanford in reference to the year they lost to Northwestern to start the year.

    They missed the playoffs that year. Had they played SJSU instead, they would have been in.
    at the time they scheduled NW, they probably thought they were scheduling SJSU.

  13. #1183
    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    at the time they scheduled NW, they probably thought they were scheduling SJSU.
    Ha ha. True. Don’t risk it. Just schedule New Mexico.

  14. #1184
    Nope. Schedule up every year. Make it interesting.

    Looking at our OOC, we already need to schedule up quite a bit before our opponents are on par with teams that 'schedule down'. We would need to go undefeated to even be considered for the CFP, and any more than a close loss to a top 10 team will likely keep us out of NY6 games.

    Our OOC schedule is already hopelessly weak as it is.

  15. #1185
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
    Nope. Schedule up every year. Make it interesting.

    Looking at our OOC, we already need to schedule up quite a bit before our opponents are on par with teams that 'schedule down'. We would need to go undefeated to even be considered for the CFP, and any more than a close loss to a top 10 team will likely keep us out of NY6 games.

    Our OOC schedule is already hopelessly weak as it is.
    Yeah, that could work for us, or it could backfire. So far, there are multiple examples of teams that missed out on the playoffs because they scheduled up. There are no examples of teams left out because they scheduled down. Maybe TCU/Baylor that one year, but there was much more to it than schedule (namely Ohio State).

    Of course, the committee is much more willing to give a brand name team a pass on schedule than they would be to Utah.

  16. #1186
    Sure looks like ASU screwed the pooch. What a mess.

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    From Jon Wilner's email update today:

    Pac-12 has signed a satellite radio agreement to create the 'SiriusXM Pac-12 Radio' channel, the conference announced this morning. It’s 24/7 news, talk (call-in shows) and game coverage of the conference that's scheduled to launch in early 2018. It will be available on the Sirius XM app and on channel 373 on select satellite radios. (Hmmmm. Not quite sure what 'select' means.) It seems like good news for fans with long commutes and satellite radio. But how will the call-in show field complaints about the Pac-12 Networks? Should be interesting. — Jon Wilner.
    I will probably listen to this often.

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    The Trojans, the Ducks, the Bruins, and all those guys: The PAC-12 rivals thread

    Washington State’s QBs was found dead today with a self inflicted gun shot wound. Suicide is awful. For everyone involved. My wife’s biological father shot himself i. Front of my MIL’s house about six years ago after she had kicked him out for blowing up in the middle of my daughter’s third birthday party. Then my wife’s sister’s fiancé intentionally drove his car into the side of a mountain near the mouth of Parley’s Canyon on Christmas Day about four years ago.

    I hate it. I hate that it has seemed like a viable solution to several people close to me. Those who have attempted it, and those who fortunately have yet to.


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    So tragic.

  21. #1191
    When rivaling goes a few hundred steps too far. 😶




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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight Schr-Ute View Post
    When rivaling goes a few hundred steps too far. 😶




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    Has he had the decency to take the tweet down?

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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  23. #1193
    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    Has he had the decency to take the tweet down?
    Last I saw of it, he was defending and doubling down. "Sorry for not being politically correct." Because the definition of that now apparently means: being a dick.

  24. #1194
    The day after his brother's suicide, little brother gets an offer from Utah.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight Schr-Ute View Post
    Last I saw of it, he was defending and doubling down. "Sorry for not being politically correct." Because the definition of that now apparently means: being a dick.
    I've been trying to find words. Can't do it.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

  26. #1196
    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    I've been trying to find words. Can't do it.
    As Dwight indicates, “dick” is an appropriate place to start. What a moron.
    "Don't apologize; it's not your fault. It's my fault for overestimating your competence."

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    Heartless, soulless nincompoop.


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    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

  28. #1198
    Wilner early division race predictions:

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/01/...arizonas-year/

    3. Utah: Just as I considered Arizona for first place, so did I ponder Utah for second. The 2017 season was destined to be a struggle from the outset (because of heavy attrition), but the Utes are well set for ’18. Every unit will be flush with returning starters save the defensive line, and offensive coordinator Troy Taylor will have a better feel for his talent. A division title wouldn’t be a complete surprise.

  29. #1199
    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Wilner early division race predictions:

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/01/...arizonas-year/

    The good: have Wilner's other contenders--USC and UA--at home. The bad; still no Cal or OSU for another year, and 5 road games.

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    Yikes.




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