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    2013-14 NCAA Men's Basketball Thread

    Games start this week. Here are some highlights, including two good Pac-12 games:

    Friday night:

    Davidson @ Duke. Jabari Parker's debut.
    Maryland vs UConn in Brooklyn - bounceback year for the Huskies?
    Oregon vs Georgetown at Camp Humphries South Korea (is that the camp from World War Z?)
    CU @ Baylor

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Games start this week. Here are some highlights, including two good Pac-12 games:

    Friday night:

    Davidson @ Duke. Jabari Parker's debut.
    Maryland vs UConn in Brooklyn - bounceback year for the Huskies?
    Oregon vs Georgetown at Camp Humphries South Korea (is that the camp from World War Z?)
    CU @ Baylor
    I wonder how many Cougar fans will be watching, and weeping into the Haagen Dasz.

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    ESPN ranks Pac-12 third this season. That's a pretty big and quick improvement over the past few years:

    http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/jeff...147&src=mobile

    3. Pac-12

    The league has been lackluster the past few seasons, but it finally has a team capable of getting to the Final Four in Arizona. Meanwhile, UCLA, Oregon and Colorado are all legitimate Top 25 teams.

    Overall, nine of the conference's 12 teams have a legitimate chance to make the NCAA tourney. California has Mike Montgomery. Johnny Dawkins and Stanford have three players in Dwight Powell, Chasson Randle and Josh Heustis that match up with just about anyone. Arizona State features one of the top point guards in the country in Jahii Carson, and Washington and Oregon State have an outside shot to go dancing. Utah should continue to improve, while Washington State and USC have work to do, and should finish near the bottom of the conference. The conference isn't quite as heavy at the top as the Big Ten or ACC, but it's as deep among its top nine as anyone.

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    I'm also looking forward to USC @ Utah St on Friday. I think the Aggies will take their lumps this year in the MWC (even though the MWC won't be as good as the last few years), but the Spectrum is always a tough place to play. For USC, it will be interesting to see how Enfield's system works at USC. I personally don't think the Trojans have the horses to do it this year (although I'm hearing good things about former Ute-committ Julian Jacobs), but he has a REALLY nice recruiting class coming in next year. I think Enfield could do some real nice things at USC.

    Two surprising outcomes I've heard from "secret scrimmages"... 1. SMU beat Colorado handily, 2. San Fransisco beat ASU.

    I've been going back and forth about these two teams... I think both have the talent to be really good. But Colorado has a brutal non-conf schedule, and if they get off to a bad start it could be trouble for them. Tad Boyle is a good coach though, so I think they'll be alright. I think they'll be a "fringe" top-25 team. ASU though... I love Jahii Carson, and think Bachynski is a force inside. They also get Jermaine Marshall from Penn St who averaged over 15 ppg in the Big 10 last year. However, I think Herb Sendek is a lousy coach and I just have a feeling that ASU will underperform this year. They're my pick to be the "disappointment" in the conference this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    ESPN ranks Pac-12 third this season. That's a pretty big and quick improvement over the past few years:

    http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/jeff...147&src=mobile
    I am baffled by the love that Oregon State has been getting by some folks. An outside shot to go dancing? Hmmmm, maybe ill end up really missing the mark on this but I just don't see them doing anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahsMrSports View Post
    I am baffled by the love that Oregon State has been getting by some folks. An outside shot to go dancing? Hmmmm, maybe ill end up really missing the mark on this but I just don't see them doing anything.
    They have five players 6-10 or taller and the best scoring guard in the league in Roberto Nelson. Eric Moreland could have been a late-first, early-second round pick had he declared. With Angus Brandt, who averaged 11 and 9 last year before ripping his ACL, you could make an argument that OSU's top 3 is the best in the league outside of Tucson. They remind me a lot of Cal last year with Alan Crabbe and a front line that was just thick and nasty.

    That said, OSU has had talent before with Jared Cunningham, AJ Starks and Joe Burton and did nothing with it. I really think the problem is with the First Brother-in-Law on the bench.

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    Watching Davidson @ Duke now. Gonna be a fun year for Duke fans like me. Lot to like about this team.

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    Watching former ute shawn Glover (oral rob) vs Tulsa. Utes could have used him last year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
    Watching former ute shawn Glover (oral rob) vs Tulsa. Utes could have used him last year

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    I liked Glover. I was sad he left. We have enough athletes this year that he would not be needed (or eligible), but I think you are right about last year's needs.

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    MSU/KU followed by Kansas/Duke tonight. These are the two best non-conference games of the year.

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    MSU/KU followed by Kansas/Duke tonight. These are the two best non-conference games of the year.

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    Watching Michigan State-Kentucky right now. Cheering against Kentucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    Watching Michigan State-Kentucky right now. Cheering against Kentucky.
    Me too. Also easy to cheer for Tom Izzo. One of the good guys.
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    I'm watching Stanford at UConn while I am on a plane flight. The Cardinal are wearing black road unis that I initially mistook for ours. They're struggling with UConn and are going to lose. We can beat Stanford. Maybe twice.

    Bobby Knight is one of the broadcasters. He's actually pretty doggone good at it, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    I'm watching Stanford at UConn while I am on a plane flight. The Cardinal are wearing black road unis that I initially mistook for ours. They're struggling with UConn and are going to lose. We can beat Stanford. Maybe twice.

    Bobby Knight is one of the broadcasters. He's actually pretty doggone good at it, IMO.
    You spoke way too damn soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCalPat View Post
    You spoke way too damn soon.
    I did. It looked like UConn was going to boatrace them. I should've watched longer instead of changing the channel at halftime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    Watching Michigan State-Kentucky right now. Cheering against Kentucky.
    Probably the most redundant thing any Ute fan can say. The mere mention of Kentucky automatically implies you're hoping the story ends in a loss, plane crash or NCAA probation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCalPat View Post
    Probably the most redundant thing any Ute fan can say. The mere mention of Kentucky automatically implies you're hoping the story ends in a loss, plane crash or NCAA probation.
    There are a lot of reasons to hate Kentucky that have nothing to do with Utah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    There are a lot of reasons to hate Kentucky that have nothing to do with Utah.
    I got to attend the 1998 Finals and really was impressed by the graciousness of North Carolina fans in defeat, and the astonishing gracelessness of the Kentucky fans in victory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    I got to attend the 1998 Finals and really was impressed by the graciousness of North Carolina fans in defeat, and the astonishing gracelessness of the Kentucky fans in victory.
    I'm not sure "grace" and "Kentucky" have ever been used in the same sentence in a positive manner. Other than maybe "By the grace of God, we got out of Kentucky."

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    This weekend Kansas visits CU.

    Other Pac-12:

    UNLV @ Arizona
    Oregon @ Marshall Henderson
    UCLA @ Mizzou
    Colorado with the big upset over Kansas. Ucla loses at mizzou and Arizona is down couple at half to the rebels. The Pac is going to be very deep! A lot of teams in contention.

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    Some good games tonight:

    Kansas @ Florida with Kansas coming off tough road loss in Boulder
    Boise St @ Kentucky
    Gonzaga @ WVU - possibly the toughest OOC game for Gonzaga this season

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    Good looking picture.

    The Basketball schedule this year is just awesome. I will miss many of the matchups from the big east. But this acc schedule is equally nightmarish and wonderful.

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    Duke, Indiana and UNC at home? Amazing.


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    I know it. This team could give duke and Jabrari a run for their money. Duke in the Dome... Man, I wish I was there!

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    SI picks for the weekend. A lot of good games in there, starting with Iowa/ISU tonight. Doesn't think Utah will get it done:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/col...off/?eref=sihp

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    Arizona just beat Michigan in a helluva game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    SI picks for the weekend. A lot of good games in there, starting with Iowa/ISU tonight. Doesn't think Utah will get it done:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/col...off/?eref=sihp
    Davis made a great prediction for the Arizona-Michigan game. He got the score right, but picked the wrong team.
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    Some big Pac-12 games this week:

    Stanford @ UConn (Wed)
    Duke/UCLA (Thurs)
    Texas Tech @ ASU, Stanford/Michigan, BYU @ Oregon, Okie St @ CU (Sat)

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