I don't think there was anyone thinking they weren't replaceable.Originally Posted by sancho
All indications on Pershing was already planning to step down.
You read the D News article, then see Jon Huntsman Sr's rants in the media and if really looks bad, it'll make getting high quality replacements more difficult IMO.
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Whole thing is a blundering mess. The fact that Lee fired Beckerle by email still remains the root of this.
Hard to believe this sort of stuff happens. FWIW the people I know involved with Lee do not like her. That is contrasted by the letter written by her direct reports there, but you also wonder how much of that is like having to sign your boss's birthday card.
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Random thoughts:
Nobody looks good here. Huntsman looks worse than anyone else.
This will pass. I agree with Sancho that the U will be able to find a replacement to serve in the president's office, but I wonder about that person's quality. We'll never know who did not apply for the position because of this.
The next Health Sciences VP is going to have some repair work to do.
I am surprised and disappointed at Huntsman's outright boorishness. From my younger days I remember him as one of the classiest men I ever met.
Maybe it's true, as chrisrenrut said, that Huntsman simply doesn't care anymore because he's old and has pretty much been there and done that. Maybe he's losing it to some extent in old age. In any case, he may not be with us much longer. There may not be many more episodes like this, if any.
I wonder who the next president will be. I hope they don't simply promote another dean from within.
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"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
I think they need to bring in somebody with gravitas from outside too, maybe like Machen, esp. with the need to replace Vivian Lee. The key, as always, will be, can he/she smooth over relationships with the Legislature. If I were a candidate, what would give me pause is whether I am in charge or one donor is? That Huntsman is 80 or close to it may moderate that concern, but dealing with big donors and our Legislature would be a drawback i would think.
Reading even more on this last night I wonder if Huntsman's age played a role.
The Tribune reports the MOU that was in place was signed in 2014.....and ran for 10 more years. Seems odd to change that so quickly, which makes me wonder if Huntsman is wanting to lock up years of his wishes because he won't be around to oversee it himself
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The largest part of a university president's job is dealing with donors. Anyone good candidate would already be aware that donors are powerful.
Yeah. But this donor was willing to humiliate publicly the university president and the most visible and important V.P., and he got away with it.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
Won't happen, but personally I'd be thrilled with Taylor Randall. Smart as they come, a Ute through and through and all the right donors love him.
Where in the U of U world is Prof. Randall? Is he a dean now?
EDIT: I see that he's the dean of the School of Business with a stellar background. We could do worse.
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"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
He is our home teacher, or was until recently. That is qualification enough, since I am a gentile.
Though not as relevant, he is dean of the business school and has done a terrific job getting its new facilities built and its reputation and faculty and programs improved.
He used to lurk on Utefans and posted there once or twice. I cant remember his moniker. He may lurk here. In fact, he may be mUUser, tooting his own horn. Wouldnt put it past him. (tic)
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Taylor Randall is awesome, easily one of the best professors I ever had and from everything I've heard he's been very well received as dean of the DESB.
Professor Wesley Sundquist is recipient of 2017 Rosenblatt Prize, the University's highest honor.
https://unews.utah.edu/wesley-i-sund...enblatt-prize/
“Children and dogs are as necessary to the welfare of the country as Wall Street and the railroads.” -- Harry S. Truman
"You never soar so high as when you stoop down to help a child or an animal." -- Jewish Proverb
"Three-time Pro Bowler Eric Weddle the most versatile, and maybe most intelligent, safety in the game." -- SI, 9/7/15, p. 107.
Actually, I bet he is in the running. Kem Gardner would go to bat for him. He would be terrific.
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Taylor Randall 100%. He rescued the b-school from its death spiral under Jack Brittian's incredibly awful watch. The stuff he has done as dean is amazing. Massive upgrades in facilities, professors, and program reputation.
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I heard Dean Randall speak Friday at my son's graduation ceremony (M.S., Information Systems). He has "Leader" written all over him.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
just for fun, I sent him a link to this thread, because why not.
The business school is completely different since I attended there and also did post-graduate work there. It has become highly respected and they've also done a great job with the Executive MBA and Professional MBA programs. The facilities are top notch, etc.
When I graduated Jack Brittain was the dean and gave a graduating speech that I'm paraphrasing but was about 3 minutes long and said something like, "I've only gotten to know a handful of you because I am so busy. But those few people seemed great. You should all consider careers in the manufacturing sector. Also, please make sure to donate once you get your careers, even if it is $5/year because that is a factor in our national rankings - graduate donation rate. Best of luck to you!"
Really it was that bad. Nothing inspirational, nothing motivational, nothing. I remember my dad coming up after and saying, "That was the worst graduation speech I've ever heard."
But yeah, I only bring that up because I think Taylor Randall inherited a bit of a mess and he has fixed it in a big way. During my time at the school we went from a Tier 2 to a Tier 3 b-school. Randall has the school shooting up in the rankings and I'm not embarrassed anymore to claim my education there any more. If he could do with the U what he has done with the b-school we would be in a great position.
http://www.ksl.com/?sid=44170011&nid...total-disarray
Huntsman's actions continue to puzzle me. I really wonder if there are some age related mental health issues here.
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Lassonde Studios.....
http://www.utahbusiness.com/year-one-lassonde-studios/
“Children and dogs are as necessary to the welfare of the country as Wall Street and the railroads.” -- Harry S. Truman
"You never soar so high as when you stoop down to help a child or an animal." -- Jewish Proverb
"Three-time Pro Bowler Eric Weddle the most versatile, and maybe most intelligent, safety in the game." -- SI, 9/7/15, p. 107.
The U to hire an independent auditor to review the whole Huntsman Cancer Institute.
http://www.sltrib.com/news/5276931-155/university-of-utah-will-hire-independent
Koch Brothers and Eccles donate 20 million to U.
http://www.sltrib.com/news/5528512-1...cles-family-to
The Koch Brothers are horrible capitalists who believe in the free market. We can't take this money
Private money for a great cause. Love it.
“Children and dogs are as necessary to the welfare of the country as Wall Street and the railroads.” -- Harry S. Truman
"You never soar so high as when you stoop down to help a child or an animal." -- Jewish Proverb
"Three-time Pro Bowler Eric Weddle the most versatile, and maybe most intelligent, safety in the game." -- SI, 9/7/15, p. 107.
From Milken Research Review:
http://www.milkenreview.org/articles...earch-in-perilThe University of Utah has quietly evolved into one of the most prestigious research universities in the United States with a strong emphasis on commercializing its research.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
How "flashing the U" became an iconic, unifying symbol.
https://continuum.utah.edu/features/...sh-in-the-pan/
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
U Health ranked 6th among 107 academic medical systems........
https://www.deseretnews.com/article/...y-of-care.html
“Children and dogs are as necessary to the welfare of the country as Wall Street and the railroads.” -- Harry S. Truman
"You never soar so high as when you stoop down to help a child or an animal." -- Jewish Proverb
"Three-time Pro Bowler Eric Weddle the most versatile, and maybe most intelligent, safety in the game." -- SI, 9/7/15, p. 107.
Ben Shapiro. Would be an interesting event to attend tonight......
http://www.yaf.org/events/ben-shapiro-university-utah/
“Children and dogs are as necessary to the welfare of the country as Wall Street and the railroads.” -- Harry S. Truman
"You never soar so high as when you stoop down to help a child or an animal." -- Jewish Proverb
"Three-time Pro Bowler Eric Weddle the most versatile, and maybe most intelligent, safety in the game." -- SI, 9/7/15, p. 107.
He is a mainstream conservative, right off the pages of National Review. He's farther to the right than I am but all the talk about him being a white supremacist is beyond absurd.
Here's a letter to the Trib about this:
Why we intend to shut down Ben Shapiro
Adorable. It's sophomoric, embarrassing anti-intellectual nonsense, but it's adorable.We have no shame in saying that we intend to shut down Ben Shapiro. This is not a decision we came to based on youthful emotions, or out of some desire for the world to be “one big safe space.” This decision was arrived at based on a real, material understanding of the political environment of Utah, and the material effects of an emboldened far right.
As an example; Utah is already a state with a homelessness and suicide crisis amongst LGBTQ youth. Ben Shapiro has openly called transgender people mentally ill. He portrays the gay rights movement as a conspiracy to “root out god-based institutions.” He has recently defended conversion therapy, which is nothing short of abuse.
These are all positions he has stated in naked terms in articles he has written himself. To pretend that Shapiro does not spew racist and transphobic pseudoscience with the desire to justify and encourage violence is idealistic, ahistorical and wrong.
We intend on shutting down Ben Shapiro precisely because we don’t live in a fantasy world where hate speech has no consequences. We believe his hate speech can and will have material consequences for vulnerable people. This will not be a violent protest, but we intend to exercise our free speech in the boldest and most unapologetic way we can, even if Shapiro, his fans, and the University police would have it otherwise.
Ian Decker
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
I agree with you LA. Him speaking at the U about politics is not that far different from you speaking at the U. And that's more shocking and troubling than anything else.
However, I unfollowed him on twitter because he has a horrible habit of retweeting things from idiots and then tearing their statements apart. I don't need (or want) him to bring idiots into my life and he is purposely trying to get me enraged with statements from idiots which insults me.
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