George Will supports Trump's excommunication from the conservative movement:
http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...ative-movement
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George Will supports Trump's excommunication from the conservative movement:
http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...ative-movement
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"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
Who does George Will think he is kidding? Maybe he should stick to baseball.Originally Posted by LA Ute
Has he taken a serious look at the other 16? Each and every one of them carries a bafflingly idiotic position in at least one area shared with TheDonald, but they simply aren't as outspoken about it.This year’s Republican field is the most impressive since 1980, and perhaps the most talent-rich since the party first had a presidential nominee, in 1856. But 16 candidates are experiencing diminishment by associstion with the 17th.
And the most 'talent rich' since 1856? This statement may be true only on account of the sheer volume of candidates. But when you diffuse all this 'talent' across 17 candidates the average candidate looks more like a Big Sky Conference bench warmer than it does a First Team All-American and Heisman Winner.
Lets see, you are mocking the entire GOP field when the best the DNC can muster is Hillary (Erasing Emails For Dummies) Clinton, Marxist Bernie (I bath once a week) Sanders, and soon to be Joe (I am the dumbest VP since Chester Arthur) Biden? The only half decent candidates in the Democratic field are the two no one cares or talks about. That says as much about the left and their supporters as Trump leading the GOP pack does about the far right.
Seriously dude, you need to take a hard look at your own party and candidates before casting any stones. It diminishes your credibility.
I am not a Democrat. I am not a fan of HillDogg in any way, and will almost vote against her because other inevitability. Calling Joe Biden the dumbest VP in history is an understatement, and that would include Dan Quayle and I will even be generous and throw in Sarah Palin.
Bernie Sanders has been on-message for 3+ decades about both parties and the entire system being broken, and that we should have a republican democracy WITHOUT having the political system controlled by wall street and big corporations. But he is also suggesting programs that will be economically impossible to implement ($15 minimum wage, free daycare, free healthcare, etc). It would be nice to have a society more like Canada or the Scandinavian countries, but that won't happen. And frankly, America isn't ready to elect a Jew from Brooklyn.
I actually like the fact that Tump is leading the pack. he demonstrates exactly how the system is broken. My fear is that the Citizen's United ruling will end in blood and tears, and the party I expected to stand up to protect the little guy against big government will be the party that turns the guns on us </hyperbole>
Surely the Republicans can find a better option somewhere.
Don't forget free college educations.
"It'd be nice to please everyone but I thought it would be more interesting to have a point of view." -- Oscar Levant
Has the Citizens United ruling backfired on Republicans?
This article makes an interesting point that it has.
http://www.salon.com/2015/08/28/jeb_...me_but_itself/
Since all it takes is a billionaire backing you to get into the election, the Republicans get 17 people running for the nomination.
It is also highlighted in the graph in this article:
http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpo...m_term=nprnews
My favorite is Kasich. Well versed and has experience at all levels of government. Has shown he can work across the aisle to get things done. I also like Rubio and even Jeb to a certain extent, but I don't think he can win just based on lineage.
He'd make a great president. He is not the best candidate in the world, but he has never lost an election and has been a very successful governor of an important state (Ohio). His biggest problem is kind of like Romney's-he does not meet the standards of the far right.
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"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
Trump names foreign policy adviser: his good brain.
Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump, who has long shied away from naming any foreign policy advisors, suggested Wednesday that he was his own top consultant on the issue.
"I'm speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain, and I've said a lot of things," Trump said during a telephone interview on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."
Trump pointed to his 2000 book, where he made a reference to Osama bin Laden before the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
"I know what I'm doing, and I listen to a lot of people, I talk to a lot of people, and at the appropriate time I'll tell you who the people are," Trump said.
"But I speak to a lot of people, but my primary consultant is myself, and I have a good instinct for this stuff,” he added.
I read somewhere that the main difference between Trump and Cruz is that Cruz actually believes all the crap he says.
Stuff like this out of him scares me:
We will do what we can to help them fight this scourge, and redouble our efforts to make sure it does not happen here. We need to immediately halt the flow of refugees from countries with a significant al Qaida or ISIS presence. We need to empower law enforcement to patrol and secure Muslim neighborhoods before they become radicalized.
Why Mormons are not fond of Trump.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...e-utah/474819/
Scares us in law enforcement too.
Sadly most politicians don't understand the constitution and case law like they think they do
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I agree. Trump doesn't believe it what he says. He just says whatever comes to his head that he thinks will get people riled up. Cruz believes in the stuff he espouses. That's what's so scary about him.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
Could the Panama Papers put Sanders in the White House?
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-a6969481.html
This year's election will not be "voting for" but rather "voting against" a candidate(s).
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-mor...llary-clinton/
Conspiracy theory: Kasich is the back-room GOP nominee the GOP will put forth if Trump fails to win the nomination on the first ballot, which Kasich is actively helping the GOP try to make sure happens.
I liked this one too:
Why We Shouldn’t Fight Dirty
What I want to focus on is the fact that [Rush Limbaugh Show caller] Sean is willing to support Trump despite disagreeing with him on 80 percent of the issues because of how Trump practices politics. Because he is cruel and vulgar and mean-spirited. Because he will fight dirty.
The following day Rush praised Sean, saying, “If Trump’s the nominee and if he does unload on Hillary Clinton as he’s promising to do, let me just tell you something: You do not know how many gazillion Americans are going to be delirious and orgasmic with delight and support.” He added, “If Trump hits her and criticizes her like the Clintons haven’t been, you’re gonna have people on that basis alone vote for [Trump], in my opinion, ’cause I don’t think people understand how pent up the frustration and the opposition to the Clintons at what they have seemingly gotten away with all of these years.”
So there, in a nutshell, is the case for Trump by those who are supportive or at least sympathetic to him. He’ll fight dirty, and in doing so he’ll win over a “gazillion” Americans.
The latter proposition is dubious, given that Mr. Trump’s negatives – and the intensity of his negatives — are unprecedented. Despite facing a very weak opponent in Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Trump is positioning himself to be crushed. But it’s the celebration of Trump’s style of politics that ought to most worry us. The very thing that ought to disqualify Trump is what commends him to many.
Before Democrats pat themselves on the back for being paradigms of civility and decency, let’s recall that the Clintons have shown they are well practiced in the politics of personal destruction, whether it means savaging and threatening women Bill Clinton has had affairs with or those, like Ken Starr, who were appointed to investigate him. Trump is at least as skilled at this game, which means the 2016 presidential election, assuming both Clinton and Trump are the nominees, may well be the ugliest and most vicious election many of us will have ever seen.
Read the whole thing.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
Satan tries to snatch Fiorino back by opening the gates of hell under her feet.
Trump Jr:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/passantino/...3bx#.hrMP8RPVeThe comments came in a March 2013 episode of The Opie and Anthony Show, during a discussion of whether women should be allowed in all-male golf clubs. And they offer a glimpse of the family’s perspective on workplace sexual harassment at a moment when the elder Trump’s conduct toward women inside the workplace and out has become the center of the presidential campaign.“If you have a guys’ place you have a guys’ place,” Trump Jr., the candidate’s eldest son and executive vice president at the Trump Organization, said, describing himself as a “guy’s guy.” A host interjected that women “complain, ‘it’s harassment’ — that’s why we hate having them around. They stop us from doing what we want to do.” “I’m of that mindset — and I’ll get into trouble, I’m sure I’ll get myself in trouble one of these days,” Trump began. “If you can’t handle some of the basic stuff that’s become a problem in the workforce today, then you don’t belong in the workforce. Like, you should go maybe teach kindergarten. I think it’s a respectable position.
Warning: R rated language right out of the gate if you listen to the audio clip that is attached.
According to the Federal Election Commission filings, Donald Trump's presidential campaign has spent $1.8 million on polling from June 2015 through September of this year (the most recent month for which data are available). The report also lists $3.2 million spent on hats.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...an-on-polling/
https://news.vice.com/article/trumps...n-his-campaignThe manufacturer, Ace Specialties, is owned by Christl Mahfouz, a board member on Eric Trump's charitable foundation.
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The circus continues. New York Times:
New Emails in Clinton Case Came From Devices Once Used by Anthony Weiner
If there really are thousands of new e-mails, how on earth is there time to make any sense of them before Nov. 8?
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
Ideology aside, the group other than Trump includes:
Nine current or former governors:
Three former governors of large states who were re-elected twice (Bush, Perry, Pataki)
Three current governors (Walker, Kasich, Christie) who've never lost an election and have been elected twice (Walker more than that) by large margins in purple states
Three other successful governors (Jindal, who is OK; Huckabee, who is a snake oil salesman; and Gilmore -- meh.)
Two U.S. Senators with significant accomplishments;
Marco Rubio (my guy)
Lindsey Graham
You can't write these guys off as dummies. They have good records. Even Huckabee, who I can't stand. It's a good field. The Democrats have Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, neither of whom have records of achievement like most of the guys above.
The rest (Cruz, Paul, Carson, Santorum, who have no chance. Carly Fiorina, who is a smart and capable person but has not chance).
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
I was only commenting on those near the top who have a snowballs chance of getting close to the nomination.
Of that entire group, Rubio is probably the standout. But is he even old enough to run? For sure his lack of age will be used against him.
Kasich doesn't seem to want to be there. Christie would need to drop another hundred pounds before he could win a National, because American voters are shallow(.although i think he would be a solid POTUS).
I will thank God every if Cruz truly doesn't get a chance, He terrifies me at his current level of power.
Perry is proof that any village idiot can become a governor, luckily his new glasses add about 55 IQ points to his appearance.
Bush CAN'T win because of his name, but his position on the board at Bloomberg Family Foundation (which partnered with Planned Parenthood to push for less restrictive abortion laws) combined with his 'defund Planned Parenthood' statement, will crush him. Especially since a 'defund Planned Parenthood' statement is effectively defunding Pap Smears. He might as well say, 'I support cervical cancer!'. At least that is what the attack ads will point out.
Sarah Palin looks like a scholar compared to Scott Walker.
Lindsay Graham is too ambiguously gay to win, given all his anti-LGBT rhetoric.
Unfortunately too many ofthe wackos will be pushed to the top during the Hawkeye Cauci and the New Hampshire Primary.
LA, the truth is you are a far more impressive leader than anybody in this field. And don't google 'santorum'.
LA, I think you can break the silence now. You can admit that you were the man in the demon sheep in Carly Fiorina's ad in 2010, weren't you?
You aren't a Democrat but you think Bernie Sanders has been on message for 3+ decades?!! I get wanting big money out of elections but the Dem's Trial Lawyers groups, corporations, and Unions donate as much to the left as Wall Street or any group does to the righy. Bernie Sanders is only on message if you want a Marxist type of welfare state and government dominated, centesl type of economy.
As for Scandanavia, I have visited my relatives in Norway and they are basically Marxists. The only reason that type of system hasn't crushed Norway's economy is because their population is only about 2 million more than the state of Utah and they have a ton of oil revenue from the North Sea.
I agree with you about Bush but only because of his name. His idea to defund Planned Parenthood is something that should happen, particularly in light of the disgusting behaviorand corruption that has come to light there recently. Your concerns about cervical cancer and PAP smears are just fear tactics. Those can be done at any doctors office or public health clinic and the vast majority of young women are being vaccinated against HPV now anyway.
As for Rubio, I agree he is one of if not the best in the GOP field right now. I have to laugh at your implication that he is too young, though. He is currently older and a much more tenured US Senator than Obama was when he was elected President. Of course, that experiment hasn't exactly turned out that we'll so maybe you are on to something there.
Finally, you are clearly a Democrat or lefty when you feel the need to drag Sarah Palin into a discussion even when it has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Neither she nor Quayle were ever VP's and never made Presidential runs so trying to deflect criticism of Biden for the moron he is bease you don't like conservative politicians in general isn't relevant here.
Last edited by #1 Utefan; 08-14-2015 at 10:48 PM.
Pretty sure Dan Quayle was the 44th Vice President of the United States
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You are right. My comments were more geared toward Sarah Palin who somehow always gets brought up in these discussions whether she is relevant or not. Doesn't change the fact Biden is an intellectual lightweight that can make even a guy like Quayle look good.
A thoughtful takedown of Donald Trump and his conservative fellow-travelers:
http://pjmedia.com/blog/rush-limbaug...ing/#undefined
Last edited by LA Ute; 09-19-2015 at 08:19 AM.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
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