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    Sam the Sheepdog LA Ute's Avatar
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    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Malleus Cougarorum Solon's Avatar
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    There are a lot of items to digest & discuss in this conference / website:

    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8...s-freedom.html

    https://lds.org/religious-freedom?ci...us-freedom_eng

    I would appreciate any pertinent commentary - especially from the legal minds among us. I have a professional, in addition to personal, motivations behind understanding how freedom of religion is defined and how it interacts with other basic Bill-of-Rights freedoms.

    PS - I swear this DesNews article has been heavily revised in the 2 hours since I read it first. There was a whole list of societal benefits provided by religion, including democracy and basic human rights.

    There was also an Oaks quote about the "Utah compromise" (the deal hammered out in the 2015 legislature LGBT housing/employment, with religious exemptions) being mis-named because the church never compromises its principles or on its doctrines.

    On the one hand, I am glad that it was changed because some of the claims are ridiculous (like religion inventing democracy). On the other hand, changing it without acknowledgment feels Orwellian.

    Or maybe i'm just crazy.
    Last edited by Solon; 09-11-2016 at 10:43 AM. Reason: PS
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