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    We love (to beat) LA! - The Southern California homestand

    Two big games this week. Both top 40 RPI. As good a chance as we will have to boost our big dance resume. Hard to see us getting an at large if we go 0-2 here.

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    Has anyone watched USC this season? I have seen only a few minutes of a couple of games. In one of the games, whoever was calling it was raving about their deep bench.

    Their resume is pretty thin. Lots of wins, but not any wins against teams headed to the tournament. Close loss against Cal looks good, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Has anyone watched USC this season? I have seen only a few minutes of a couple of games. In one of the games, whoever was calling it was raving about their deep bench.

    Their resume is pretty thin. Lots of wins, but not any wins against teams headed to the tournament. Close loss against Cal looks good, I guess.
    I watched their games against Wyoming, Oregon, and Cal. They are certainly very talented and probably a team that would beat us in their building, or maybe it would be close. I think we can get them in the Huntsman Center though.
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    I watched Cal @ USC - agree they're pretty talented.

    In that game, their 6-11 sophomore Metu was hitting mid range jumpers. He's still pretty young, I don't think he'll be that big of a threat at our place. Last year McLaughlin did damage against us, but Poeltl, Loveridge and Taylor responded.

    Benny Boatwright is supposed to be close to coming back from a knee injury. He was a serious outside threat last year, too.

    We should be able to hold them off, at the Hunty.

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    Utah is 0-3 vs tournament teams so far. We have 4-6 games remaining against tournament teams (plus the conference tournament):

    USC, UCLA, Oregon x 2, and maybe Cal x 2 if they get in.

    That makes USC a must win for us, and it means we have to beat UCLA and/or Oregon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Utah is 0-3 vs tournament teams so far. We have 4-6 games remaining against tournament teams (plus the conference tournament):

    USC, UCLA, Oregon x 2, and maybe Cal x 2 if they get in.

    That makes USC a must win for us, and it means we have to beat UCLA and/or Oregon.
    We can't lose tonight. We know what's at stake here.

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    Why do I inherently hate Enfield? Has there been controversy around him or does he just have a punchable face?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker Ute View Post
    Why do I inherently hate Enfield? Has there been controversy around him or does he just have a punchable face?


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    I feel like he and Larry had some beef a while back...but I have no idea what it was about.
    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    Anybody else lose the feed?

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    After that first half I'm fairly certain these refs believe players should move when someone is driving.


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    Those first five minutes were total garbage. Next 15, pretty good. It'd be even better if we could eliminate their offensive rebounds at the rim.


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    I miss the continuation of my youth.


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    We love (to beat) LA! - The Southern California homestand

    I'm listening to Riley at the airport. This is becoming a nice blowout. Of a ranked team!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    I'm listening to Riley at the airport. This is becoming a nice blowout. Of a ranked team!
    Having a great night from three. Even Collette got in on the fun.


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    Boom!

    Ucla at home is the game if the year. Should we spot them ten points? Seems to work alright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight Schr-Ute View Post
    I miss the continuation of my youth.


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    Sorry, that was on the floor.


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    I'm starting to think (as Don McLean said) that we could challenge for that 4th spot...it will take basically no WTF losses and at least a home split vs Oregon and UCLA.

    Cal will have something to say about it as will others I'm sure.

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    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    I'm starting to think (as Don McLean said) that we could challenge for that 4th spot...it will take basically no WTF losses and at least a home split vs Oregon and UCLA.

    Cal will have something to say about it as will others I'm sure.

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    Utes shot 53% from 3-point range tonight (9/17). Yowzers.
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    Sedrick Barefield was really good tonight.
    JoJo is not a good ball handler & Bonam is not a true point guard.

    They might have to start Sedrick to get a better start--although the first few shots were good/close but just would not drop.

    Is Enfield the worst coach in the league??
    USC acted like they had never seen Utah play a zone & at the half they made no adjustments.??

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    Great win but before we get to confident, USC is the type of team that loses these type of games. They need to shot well and be up-tempo to win because they don't play defense. Don't count on us shooting over 50% beyond the arc or overall against UCLA.

    I will of course happily be wrong about all of that. This is a different team with Barefield and Collette on the floor.

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    Leaf vs kuzma! Battle of the double double, ball handling bigs.

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    Why do you guys say Daniels can't hit the three? He keeps hitting them and eventually it means he can hit them. How long's it been since we had a freshman as good as he is? as complete a player as he is? We'd have loved Delon Wright to hit threes like Daniels can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Why do you guys say Daniels can't hit the three? He keeps hitting them and eventually it means he can hit them. How long's it been since we had a freshman as good as he is? as complete a player as he is? We'd have loved Delon Wright to hit threes like Daniels can.
    I'm pretty excited about him. He has size and springs. If he can keep shooting well he could be a Dillon Brooks type. Other teams will have to take him into account in their game planning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Why do you guys say Daniels can't hit the three? He keeps hitting them and eventually it means he can hit them. How long's it been since we had a freshman as good as he is? as complete a player as he is? We'd have loved Delon Wright to hit threes like Daniels can.
    He's shooting a great 3 point percentage, but he seems hesitant to take them. He has only attempted 16 on the season, which makes his percentage less statistically significant. Bonam, Zamora, Rawson, and Kuzma have all taken near or well over 40 attempts. Zamora is the only one shooting close to his percentage, but with 54 attempts, it easier to declare him a real 3 point threat. Daniels only seems to shoot them when wide open, or at the end of a shot clock. Opposing teams are not going to game plan for Daniels outside shooting.

    That said, I'm very excited above it him. If he continues to hit wide open 3's, opponents will have to respect it, and it will open up driving opportunities for him, where he really shines.
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    I'm really happy to be wrong about Daniels' shooting. I do think the shot looks a little uncomfortable. I compare the shot to the ease with which Barefield and Zamora shoot from distance or even Bonham and I think he needs some work. I know that sounds silly. He may be our most valuable player thus far. He is contributing in every facet of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrenrut View Post
    He's shooting a great 3 point percentage, but he seems hesitant to take them. He has only attempted 16 on the season, which makes his percentage less statistically significant. Bonam, Zamora, Rawson, and Kuzma have all taken near or well over 40 attempts. Zamora is the only one shooting close to his percentage, but with 54 attempts, it easier to declare him a real 3 point threat. Daniels only seems to shoot them when wide open, or at the end of a shot clock. Opposing teams are not going to game plan for Daniels outside shooting.

    That said, I'm very excited above it him. If he continues to hit wide open 3's, opponents will have to respect it, and it will open up driving opportunities for him, where he really shines.
    And prior to the last two games (where he's 5-5) he was 2-11.

    As Larry said, Daniels isn't someone you draw up 3 point plays for, or even think that's who should be shooting it, but he's making them. If he can build on that during his career he'll be deadly


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    http://www.latimes.com/sports/usc/la...nt=oft01a-1li2

    This article is worth it just to hear Stewart whine. Maybe he should have stayed home. He didn't bother to score.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeSer View Post
    Very nice Ive always been curious about how a decade sounds, but Ive never been brave enough to try one. Are they anything like the old Gibson EB-0?
    No!!! Don't be a moron!!! You obviously don't know anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utebiquitous View Post
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    I'm really happy to be wrong about Daniels' shooting. I do think the shot looks a little uncomfortable. I compare the shot to the ease with which Barefield and Zamora shoot from distance or even Bonham and I think he needs some work. I know that sounds silly. He may be our most valuable player thus far. He is contributing in every facet of the game.
    I also am happy to be wrong.
    He shoots a ball with absolutely no spin--no wrist follow through. Which is against all shooting gurus advice. But he has the ability/touch to make them--same with his free throws & his floaters---they are knuckleballs that don't knuckle.

    It will be interesting to see if anyone tries to alter his shot over the summer.

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