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    Neil Gorsuch Supreme Court Nomination

    We might as well have a separate thread for this as the confirmation drama unfolds.

    For starters, a pro-Gorsuch article:

    Neil Gorsuch: A Worthy Heir to Scalia

    Here's a Politico profile:

    Neil Gorsuch: Who is he? Bio, facts, background and political views

    SCOTUSBlog summary:

    Potential nominee profile: Neil Gorsuch
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    Great pick. The liberals are going to struggle to stop his appointment.

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    I think Senators Hatch and McConnell are correct, and that we shouldn't let a lame duck president pick a SCOTUS nominee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
    I think Senators Hatch and McConnell are correct, and that we shouldn't let a lame duck president pick a SCOTUS nominee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
    I think Senators Hatch and McConnell are correct, and that we shouldn't let a lame duck president pick a SCOTUS nominee.
    The Repubs played hardball with the Merrick Garland nomination and they should expect the Dems to do the same now.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
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    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    The Repubs played hardball with the Merrick Garland nomination and they should expect the Dems to do the same now.
    And so on and so on forever for all nominees and cabinet appointees. It's the new way of doing things.

    Maybe we'll never appoint another supreme court justice, and one by one they will pass away until Clarence Thomas is the most powerful man in the USA and he finally has to say something during a case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    And so on and so on forever for all nominees and cabinet appointees. It's the new way of doing things.

    Maybe we'll never appoint another supreme court justice, and one by one they will pass away until Clarence Thomas is the most powerful man in the USA and he finally has to say something during a case.
    He already did. Your plan has failed.

    http://www.npr.org/2016/02/29/468600...-quiet-justice


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    Quote Originally Posted by Diehard Ute View Post
    He already did. Your plan has failed.

    http://www.npr.org/2016/02/29/468600...-quiet-justice
    Well, it will be funnier if Justice Ginsberg is the last one left. She's so little, it would be cute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    And so on and so on forever for all nominees and cabinet appointees. It's the new way of doing things.

    Maybe we'll never appoint another supreme court justice, and one by one they will pass away until Clarence Thomas is the most powerful man in the USA and he finally has to say something during a case.
    Actually now Kennedy is the most powerful, because he is the potential swing vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    The Repubs played hardball with the Merrick Garland nomination and they should expect the Dems to do the same now.
    The Republicans never had to pay for that little stunt. The crazy thing is they could have easily defeated Garland in a full vote, but they didn't even allow him to come up for debate, let alone a floor vote. One man, McConnell, refused to even let the nomination come out of committee.

    But nothing will come of it, because Democrats never play hardball. They always cave in. Most of them will end up voting for this candidate anyway.

    This nominee is a huge fan of Scalia. It will be interesting to know whether he is as scholarly and bookish as Scalia, and will even follow precedent and the Constitution to make decisions that he personally dislikes, as did Scalia.

    And like Scalia, I am sure he will choose to follow his faith over following the Constitution in certain areas (esp. abortion, LGBT rights).

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
    I am sure he will choose to follow his faith over following the Constitution in certain areas (esp. abortion, LGBT rights).
    Yeah, totally went against all those amendments about abortion and lgbt rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    The Repubs played hardball with the Merrick Garland nomination and they should expect the Dems to do the same now.
    It is one thing to ask hard questions and another to attempt to block a vote. They won't do this, but the Dems should ask every question they deem necessary and then vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UTEopia View Post
    It is one thing to ask hard questions and another to attempt to block a vote. They won't do this, but the Dems should ask every question they deem necessary and then vote.
    Until the Republicans just change the rules because the democrats want to ask more questions.

    McConnell's comments alone are enough to tell me the powers that be in the Republican Party only care about their party agenda.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Diehard Ute View Post
    Until the Republicans just change the rules because the democrats want to ask more questions.
    I'm calling BS on this one. The rule was that at least one member of each party needs to be present for a vote. The Democrats abused that rule by boycotting sessions, attempting to block a vote. That is a childish, anti-democratic maneuver. Republicans changed the rules so that if people refused to show up to vote, they don't get to vote. Sounds like democracy to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
    I think Senators Hatch and McConnell are correct, and that we shouldn't let a lame duck president pick a SCOTUS nominee.

    So no second term president can nominate a Justice? That's crazy. I'm going to be happy with whoever we get, but I really don't like how the republicans handled this. It's not how the system is supposed to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scratch View Post
    So no second term president can nominate a Justice? That's crazy. I'm going to be happy with whoever we get, but I really don't like how the republicans handled this. It's not how the system is supposed to work.
    I didn't think it necessary to include the "/s"

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    This NY Times op-ed by a liberal Obama administration lawyer will convince even NWUF that Gorsuch is the man.

    Why Liberals Should Back Neil Gorsuch

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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    Most reviews I read speak highly of Gorsuch. I think this is a good nominee. Some people are wanting this to be a crazy uber right wing nomination and it isn't.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker Ute View Post
    Most reviews I read speak highly of Gorsuch. I think this is a good nominee. Some people are wanting this to be a crazy uber right wing nomination and it isn't.


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    Yeah, he's as good as can be hoped for. I don't think the dems should play hardball. What the republicans did was stupid and petty; mud and pigs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Applejack View Post
    Yeah, he's as good as can be hoped for. I don't think the dems should play hardball. What the republicans did was stupid and petty; mud and pigs.
    And they've magically erased what they did from their own memories. It's beyond pathetic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Diehard Ute View Post
    It's beyond pathetic.
    It is beyond pathetic. It's politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    It is beyond pathetic. It's politics.
    This. Both sides do this crap and then conveniently forget. Nothing... NOTHING has to do with principles any more.

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    "Lovers of law or sausage should never know how either one is made."

    --Anonymous

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    "Lovers of law or sausage should never know how either one is made."

    --Anonymous
    That's why I eat bacon.


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    Neil Gorsuch Supreme Court Nomination

    Politico:

    What Could Gorsuch Mean for the Supreme Court?

    13 top legal scholars weigh in.

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...-future-214724

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    A very nuanced analysis of Gorsuch's judicial record.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.f5cfb34fb306

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Yeah, to pretend both sides don't do this stuff is to have your head in the ground. I think we all would agree that the public wishes these guys would just do their jobs and do what is best for the country and put partisanship to the side.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker Ute View Post
    Yeah, to pretend both sides don't do this stuff is to have your head in the ground. I think we all would agree that the public wishes these guys would just do their jobs and do what is best for the country and put partisanship to the side.
    If you think both sides do this equally... then you are crazier than a shit house rat. But, yeah, I wish they would do their damn job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devildog View Post
    ...then you are crazier than a shit house rat...
    I think that's your job, I would hate to encroach on it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker Ute View Post
    I think that's your job, I would hate to encroach on it.
    You are so clever.

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