Our boys sure seem to be comfortable playing in LES. I daresay they have played us better at RES than in their own place. Not sure why that is but it bodes well for us. Go UTES!
Our boys sure seem to be comfortable playing in LES. I daresay they have played us better at RES than in their own place. Not sure why that is but it bodes well for us. Go UTES!
Someone on UF.net said we're now favored. I don't understand betting so I can't confirm. Anybody know?Originally Posted by U-Ute
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
What I will say about BYU's defense vs LSU is this:
BYU was terrible.
LSU had 7 drives into BYU's red zone.
LSU had three TD's, two FG's, missed FG and TO on downs.
LSU said they used less than 10% of their playbook.
LSU's FG's came in the second half.
I don't buy BYU's defense did anything.
LSU got up big, packed it in, ran three plays the second half and settled for FG's. Had LSU wanted to, they could have won by 60. But they decided to shut it down and not show anyone anything because they knew they could.
Uh-oh: http://www.sltrib.com/sports/2017/09...-yes-there-is/
I can't imagine a more ominous article before the game than one written by Gordon Monson which praises the Utes. Kyle should forbid players from reading the SLTrib.
Sure they did. SEC teams hate to participate in a rout. Gentleman to a fault, the whole lot of them.
You can get odds anywhere from BYU by 1 to Utah by 1.5. http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-...dds/las-vegas/
I think LA Ute or someone already brought this up - the O'line is the position group that worries me. They did some nice things Thursday but they also struggled, something I expect with a less-experienced position group. I have plenty of confidence that they'll continue improving as the season goes along but I think they'll need to improve considerably to consistently win the line of scrimmage battles Saturday. I have a lot of respect for the Y's front seven. I know they gave up quite a bit Saturday to LSU but if the shoe was on the other foot we'd be all over the offense for not spending equal time on the field to give our defenders some rest. Could this game end up being a punt fest?
I don't think so because BYU is too slow. Their secondary is very slow. They have no one who can cover Carrington.
I expect Utah to attack BYU's edges. Kaufusi is a very average DE and Takitaki can't play the run. LSU blocked him with a TE most of the game on Sat.
So, you think that the second half BYU suddenly came alive and shut LSU down in the red zone?
I bet you think BYU won three quarters against us at the Vegas Bowl as well, right?
And that Mangum is the best QB in the state, way better than Heaps, and headed to the NFL as well.
It moved to utah -1.5. It means $$ has come in on Utah so v they moved the lines to get action on byu
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This discussion is about the 2015 Vegas Bowl, Magnum v.s Huntley, and Jake Heaps' NFL prospects??? You need to take a chill pill, bro. Any opinion that is not all sunshine and glory should not be offensive to you.
Yes, BYU's D has some talent (gasp!), and their linebackers are solid (the nerve!), and their d-line is pretty good when you back them up to the goalline (FOR ALL THAT IS HOLY!). Deal with it. Or you can revert to making lists that include Jackson Barton as the best linebacker on the planet. Whatevs.
I STILL HATE THE COUGARS!
"Utah" taking a chill pill is akin to BYU playing clean ball -- ain't happening.
Utah -- not personal, because I don't know you, but it's funny.
This discussion is about the 2015 Vegas Bowl, Magnum v.s Huntley, and Jake Heaps' NFL prospects??? You need to take a chill pill, bro. Any opinion that is not all sunshine and glory should not be offensive to you.
Yes, BYU's D has some talent (gasp!), and their linebackers are solid (the nerve!), and their d-line is pretty good when you back them up to the goalline (FOR ALL THAT IS HOLY!). Deal with it. Or you can revert to making lists that include Jackson Barton as the best linebacker on the planet. Whatevs.
I STILL HATE THE COUGARS!
The man has to let his freak flag fly!"Utah" taking a chill pill is akin to BYU playing clean ball -- ain't happening.
Utah -- not personal, because I don't know you, but it's funny.
Let loose brother!
Lol. Barton? That's the best you have?
This discussion is about the 2015 Vegas Bowl, Magnum v.s Huntley, and Jake Heaps' NFL prospects??? You need to take a chill pill, bro. Any opinion that is not all sunshine and glory should not be offensive to you.
Yes, BYU's D has some talent (gasp!), and their linebackers are solid (the nerve!), and their d-line is pretty good when you back them up to the goalline (FOR ALL THAT IS HOLY!). Deal with it. Or you can revert to making lists that include Jackson Barton as the best linebacker on the planet. Whatevs.
I STILL HATE THE COUGARS!
p.s. LSU, Whitt, everyone on earth said LSU showed nothing and only ran 4 plays the second half.
But you keep you-ing.
Utah,
I didn't watch the LSU game - interesting to read they took care of Takitaki with a tight end on running plays. I like your thinking on attacking the edges. I was also just ruminating with a colleague over how the Y deals with Carrington. They have to cover him with a corner and safety, don't they? Even in a zone scheme, I'd imagine they'll go to man-to-man wherever he goes. That should open some things up.
My key remains how our offensive line plays. Nothing earth-shattering about that.
Is it only Tuesday?
It's not hard to see Vegas's reasoning, even though this BYU coaching staff is inferior. BYU was consistently competitive against stiff competition last year. BYU came within one play of beating Utah last year. LSU is SEC, and the game was down there--so throw that one out. The game is at BYU. It's a rivalry that's been historically close, and anything can happen in a rivalry. Where the teams are competitive in a charged rivalry, intangibles matter a lot. And BYU is the angriest team, by far. No way Utah rises to BYU's level of rage.
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I just hope tooblue is able to catch the game on TV up in Canada.
"Don't apologize; it's not your fault. It's my fault for overestimating your competence."
of course I will: BYU is nationally relevant and a big TV draw.
fify.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
Byu is relevant in Canada? I learn something weird about Canada every day.
What about poutine? Do you know about that?
"Don't apologize; it's not your fault. It's my fault for overestimating your competence."
Sounds just like a Donald Trump tweet.
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Of course byu is relevant in Canada. Byu being an educational institution (such as it is) allows the church to move tithing dollars out of Canada without paying the taxes they otherwise would. (Tax-free and tax-matching funds collected in Canada are intended to remain in Canada, or are subject to export taxes.)
Wilner on the Holy War:
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/09/0...tingham-video/
It’s a ‘no brainer’ for ESPN to air the BYU-Utah game
http://www.sltrib.com/sports/2017/09...byu-utah-game/
DirectTV lets me watch anything ... oh, wait, not the PAC12 network ... let me amend my statement: DirecTV let's me watch all relevant college football games.
So the Cal, UCLA, and Washington games this week aren't relevant?
“To me there is no dishonor in being wrong and learning. There is dishonor in willful ignorance and there is dishonor in disrespect.” James Hatch, former Navy Seal and current Yale student.
Because the Holy War is played in September and because Utah is a newcomer to the conference and because Brigham Young is not in the conference — and never will be (just being honest, BYU) — the rivalry understandably exists on the periphery for mainstream Pac-12 fans.
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