Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 30 of 42

Thread: Do You Know the Way to San Jose? Spartans visit Utah 9/16/17

  1. #1

    Do You Know the Way to San Jose? Spartans visit Utah 9/16/17

    Third game of the year and final non-conference game of the year. We still don't know a whole lot about our beloved Utes, but they are 2-0, and our opponent this week is 0-2 having been blown out against Texas 55-0.

    I expect to see a lot more Moss, McCormick and even some DHC sprinkled in there (if not now, when?). And, I hope we cut down on the penalties as well.

    Heading into a short week vs. Arizona, I'd imagine we'll see a number of the young guys get time into the 4th quarter.
    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

  2. #2
    This team would not beat North Dakota on the road or at home. It's too bad the Utes aren't playing someone who can provide a little better test. Oh well, it's another opportunity to clean things up and demonstrate good knowledge of the most important schemes and plays Coaches Taylor and Scalley will lean on as we look to the Pac-12 schedule.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    I expect to see a lot more Moss, McCormick and even some DHC sprinkled in there (if not now, when?).
    I hope we see Troy and Cooper in the fourth quarter.

  4. #4
    Utah Proud helmet:


  5. #5
    Senior Member Scorcho's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    right here, right now
    Posts
    864
    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Utah Proud helmet:

    I love that helmet and it was designed by the Ute Tribe

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Scorcho View Post
    I love that helmet and it was designed by the Ute Tribe
    I like it alright, partially because it was designed by the Ute tribe. I'm not wild about the tri-color uniform. It's takes the right three colors for a tri-color uniform to work (see LSU, USC, UCLA), and red, white, and black just doesn't do it.

    We have the colors to make some great, classic bi-color unis (red/white or black/white). Whenever we put all three together, it looks like someone let their high school class tackle a design project.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Utah Proud helmet:

    Yikes.

  8. #8
    White helmet with black face mask?

    🔥 🔥 🔥

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    I like it alright, partially because it was designed by the Ute tribe. I'm not wild about the tri-color uniform. It's takes the right three colors for a tri-color uniform to work (see LSU, USC, UCLA), and red, white, and black just doesn't do it.

    We have the colors to make some great, classic bi-color unis (red/white or black/white). Whenever we put all three together, it looks like someone let their high school class tackle a design project.
    Tell that to the West High Panthers.

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by UTEopia View Post
    Tell that to the West High Panthers.
    The Panthers are bi-color (or at least they were when I was there) with red/black. Not my favorite combo, but better than the full red/white/black mix.

  11. #11

    Do You Know the Way to San Jose? Spartans visit Utah 9/16/17

    I love the helmet!

  12. #12
    All black or all red uniforms with the new stripe design would have been the way to go in my opinion. Still very cool.

  13. #13
    Administrator U-Ute's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Salt Lake City
    Posts
    4,554
    I like the pieces individually, but the white pants look like someone forgot to pack the right color pants.

  14. #14
    Administrator U-Ute's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Salt Lake City
    Posts
    4,554
    I just heard on the radio that Derrick Odum is the DC for San Jose.

  15. #15
    Administrator U-Ute's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Salt Lake City
    Posts
    4,554
    Athalon breakdown.

    https://athlonsports.com/college-foo...rediction-2017

    Their prediction:
    Utah: 46
    SJSU: 10

  16. #16
    Game day!

    Last edited by Applejack; 09-16-2017 at 08:30 AM.

  17. #17
    Handsome Boy Graduate mpfunk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Salt Lake City, Utah
    Posts
    1,488
    I think it is safe to say our offense still sucks. I think it may suck less than last year though.

    Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk
    So I said to David Eckstein, "You promised me, Eckstein, that if I followed you, you would walk with me always. But I noticed that during the most trying periods of my life, there have only been one set of prints in the sand. Why, when I have needed you most, have you not been there for me?" David Eckstein replied, "Because my little legs had gotten tired, and you were carrying me." And I looked down and saw that I was still carrying David Eckstein.
    --fjm.com

  18. #18
    Sam the Sheepdog LA Ute's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Los Angeles, California
    Posts
    14,870
    Red zone issues are baffling.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

  19. #19
    Refs blew it on that fumble. The pylon was incorrectly placed. Since it wasn't in bounds as it's supposed to be that wasn't a touchback.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  20. #20
    I was just sitting there thinking how amazing Sam Darnold's jump pass was, and then I saw Mitch Wish's left footed punt. Wow.
    Last edited by sancho; 09-16-2017 at 10:43 PM.

  21. #21
    Sam the Sheepdog LA Ute's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Los Angeles, California
    Posts
    14,870

    Do You Know the Way to San Jose? Spartans visit Utah 9/16/17

    From Riley on the post-game show:

    Huntley had more passing yards tonight than any Utah QB in the PAC-12 era.

    The last Ute QB who had three straight games like Huntley's was Brian Johnson in 2008. (SDSU, BYU, Alabama).

    Carrington has had 3 straight 100-yard receiving games. Dres Anderson was the last Utah receiver to do that. (Not sure about that one.)

    Carrington does a nice interview.

    He says Coach Taylor has a lot more "in his back pocket" that he'll show during PAC-12 play.

    Whitt:

    • Kyle says the team "took a big step forward" tonight. The only real negative was the 3 TOs in the first half.

    • He'd like to see more production from the running game, although tonight was not bad.

    • He's happy with the D, except "we let them get behind us a couple of times tonight."

    • Henry-Cole has great potential and will see more time on the field as he learns pass protection better. (Picking up blitzes, etc.)

    • Huntley is "getting better at every facet" with each game.

    • Gushed about Marquise. "I think he's a guy with a ton of upside."
    _______________________

    I think if we get to 9 wins we'll do it by victories over these 6 PAC-12 teams, none of which is guaranteed by any stretch:

    Arizona
    ASU
    Oregon
    UCLA
    Wazzu
    Colorado

    Maybe there will be some surprises, both pleasant and unpleasant.
    Last edited by LA Ute; 09-17-2017 at 07:18 AM.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

  22. #22
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Twin Falls, Idaho
    Posts
    2,896
    Quote Originally Posted by Diehard Ute View Post
    Refs blew it on that fumble. The pylon was incorrectly placed. Since it wasn't in bounds as it's supposed to be that wasn't a touchback.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    I think you're wrong on this. The front of the pylon, regardless of where it's placed, represents the absolute front of the end zone. Once it hits the pylon, it's in the end zone. Going out of bounds completed the touchback.

    So if the pylons are set in the field of play (another matter on which I think you're wrong), the ball bounces to the right of the pylon and doesn't hit it. Doesn't matter, as the end line, for purpose of spotting the ball, is not limited to the field of play. Ball is in the air, past the end line. Also a touchback.

    The fumble was clear, and there's no way you could give Utah possession at the spot where it went out of bounds, because it didn't go out of bounds until it had clearly crossed the end line.

  23. #23
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Twin Falls, Idaho
    Posts
    2,896
    Tonight did little to alleviate my concerns about the offensive line. Our best efforts in what Kyle calls the "pure" run game came late in the game. Huntley is our short-yardage back. That's not good. We also have to produce a lot of our throw game on rollouts. More athletic secondaries will be able to make us pay.

    But you can't argue against back-to-back 300-yard passing games. And Carrington is a bonafide Biletnikoff candidate.

    Gay is amazing. Two 50-yard-plus FGs in the same game has to be a Utah record, and the 56-yarder has to be the longest in school history without use of a tee. I have fought the Sakoda vs. Phillips wars for several years -- Louie, and it's not really close, but Gay might be better than Louie by the time it's all said and done. BYU gets grief for having passed on Gay, but let's not make our coaches some kind of savants when it comes to identifying kickers -- Gay wasn't even our first choice vs. UND.

    This team will never be boring. We play close to the edge, and in some cases, needlessly so. Huntley stretching the ball out four yards short of a first down is one example. Moss was fortunate enough to be just close enough to the end zone on his TD for it not to hurt us. There are at least 10 plays in this game that, when looked at on film, will leave the coaches shaking their heads. But for a change, we weren't clean and still won big.

    Given the late start, nobody who votes will apply the eyeball test to this effort. Four teams ranked 18-25 lost on Saturday, and No. 14 Louisville is due for a sizable tumble. I don't think SDSU leapfrogs us, and the Aztecs are the only team within range of us that are worthy of a huge jump. Maybe Vanderbilt could. I say we move five spots, all the way to No. 21.

  24. #24
    Gay is the only kicker to kick two 50 or longer field goals in a game for Utah.

    56 is the second longest ever, and longest without a tee. Longest is 59 (Marv Baterman 1971)

    Huntley is first back to back 300 yard passer since Brian Johnson and first since joining the Pac-12

    Carrington said after the game Taylor will open up a lot more of the offense in conference.




    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  25. #25
    Senior Member justaute's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    SLC-FW-Pitt
    Posts
    1,056
    I don't care how big our playbook is until our o-line and running game are better. Glad we got the win, but it was San Jose State, which had new coaching staff and 48 freshman players.

    Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk

  26. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by justaute View Post
    I don't care how big our playbook is until our o-line and running game are better. Glad we got the win, but it was San Jose State, which had new coaching staff and 48 freshman players.

    Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
    Everything felt a little out of sync for the offense. Feels weird to say that considering all the stats. Fumbles, a bad pick, other bad throws, low snaps, ugly handoffs.

  27. #27
    Have to think Gay is a leading candidate for special teams POW.

  28. #28
    We fans are funny. We have thrived with a traditional run game for several years and people were always lamenting that we did not have a running QB for executing the read-option. Now we have a QB who can execute the read option and for the most part has made the right reads and people are lamenting that we do not have a traditional run game. Now there were a couple of short yardage plays where Huntley took the ball and followed the RB into the hole. I would prefer a short yardage set with someone who looks a lot like Shawn Asiata in the backfield and handing off to Moss. Sometimes I think Moss dances in the hole when he should just put his head down and run with power.

    Overall, I like the offense and maybe this is what the TT offense looks like.

  29. #29
    Sam the Sheepdog LA Ute's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Los Angeles, California
    Posts
    14,870

    Do You Know the Way to San Jose? Spartans visit Utah 9/16/17

    Quote Originally Posted by SoCalPat View Post
    I think you're wrong on this. The front of the pylon, regardless of where it's placed, represents the absolute front of the end zone. Once it hits the pylon, it's in the end zone. Going out of bounds completed the touchback.

    So if the pylons are set in the field of play (another matter on which I think you're wrong), the ball bounces to the right of the pylon and doesn't hit it. Doesn't matter, as the end line, for purpose of spotting the ball, is not limited to the field of play. Ball is in the air, past the end line. Also a touchback.

    The fumble was clear, and there's no way you could give Utah possession at the spot where it went out of bounds, because it didn't go out of bounds until it had clearly crossed the end line.
    I doubt that Samson will try to change hands with the ball while being tackled anytime soon.
    Last edited by LA Ute; 09-17-2017 at 08:48 AM.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

  30. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by UTEopia View Post
    We fans are funny. We have thrived with a traditional run game for several years and people were always lamenting that we did not have a running QB for executing the read-option. Now we have a QB who can execute the read option and for the most part has made the right reads and people are lamenting that we do not have a traditional run game.
    I think the timing is just a little frustrating. For a few years, we've had a great line and RBs, but our QB situation was just okay. Our WR situation was worse than okay. Now, we have an all-conference caliber WR and a good QB, but the line and RB situations are not great. Next year, the line and QB will be more experienced, but there may not be an all-conference WR or RB. So close to putting it all together, but close doesn't count.

    We've been used to feeling good about 4th and 1, so it's hard to have to feel nervous about it now.

    And it's easy to daydream about having Booker, Carrington, Huntley, and Bolles at the same time. That's a conference championship offense right there.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •