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    Troy and Troy march into Troy: Utah @USC 2017

    The art of the 2 point conversion: When and why to go for it

    The art of the 2 point conversion: When and why to go for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by U-Ute View Post
    Trigger warning:

    Threethings:

    1- Troy is already going down at this point. Still, if his eyes were up he might have seen Carrington breaking open.

    2- Why aren't Carrington's hands up in the air signaling he is open?

    3- If he did pass, at least we wouldn't have any ineligible lineman downfield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrenrut View Post
    Threethings:

    1- Troy is already going down at this point. Still, if his eyes were up he might have seen Carrington breaking open.

    2- Why aren't Carrington's hands up in the air signaling he is open?

    3- If he did pass, at least we wouldn't have any ineligible lineman downfield.
    Carrington was wide open earlier in the sequence well before TW engaged the USC defenders. FWIW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    Carrington was wide open earlier in the sequence well before TW engaged the USC defenders. FWIW.
    I listened to the podcast this morning of KW's press conference. Also FWIW, he thought the pass to Carrington should have been made. I don't think we should be too hard on Troy, but we need to call it what it was: a blown opportunity at the critical moment of the game. He flips that ball to Carrington and we are all celebrating a great historic win.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    I listened to the podcast this morning of KW's press conference. Also FWIW, he thought the pass to Carrington should have been made. I don't think we should be too hard on Troy, but we need to call it what it was: a blown opportunity at the critical moment of the game. He flips that ball to Carrington and we are all celebrating a great historic win.

    Somebody pointed out this morning that SC had :42, 3 timeouts, and a great field goal kicker. so who knows for sure what would have happened. And the failure of the UA qb to see open receivers played a big part in our win down there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    Somebody pointed out this morning that SC had :42, 3 timeouts, and a great field goal kicker. so who knows for sure what would have happened. And the failure of the UA qb to see open receivers played a big part in our win down there.
    SC only had one time out, and Kyle got them to burn it when we lined up to go for two. Nevertheless, Darnold probably could've gotten them down the field in 42 seconds. He was shredding our D.
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    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    Somebody pointed out this morning that SC had :42, 3 timeouts, and a great field goal kicker. so who knows for sure what would have happened. And the failure of the UA qb to see open receivers played a big part in our win down there.
    Not sure about USC's FG kicker either. After all, SC decided to go for it on 4th and 9 at the Utah 27 rather than kick a FG. It was 3rd quarter and Utah led 21-14.
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