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    Troy and Troy march into Troy: Utah @USC 2017

    No word on Huntley, so I'm assuming Williams will be starting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by U-Ute View Post
    No word on Huntley, so I'm assuming Williams will be starting.
    Even if Tyler is ready they’re not going to tell anyone.

    Just like they won’t say a word if Bateman beats out Troy. And with practice entirely closed, we’re not going to hear even rumors as much.


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    Even if Tyler is ready they’re not going to tell anyone.

    Just like they won’t say a word if Bateman beats out Troy. And with practice entirely closed, we’re not going to hear even rumors as much.
    It's exciting! We beat those 5 star pretty boys last year by out-toughing them. Gotta do the same on Sat. Song girl tears are the sweetest!

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    I feel alright about the game. I know it's a longshot, but we've always matched up decently with USC. They need to run to be successful, and we have a good run defense. Darnold can make amazing throws, but he also makes bad decisions and throws picks. If we get a couple of those and capitalize on them?

    This is clearly the best defense we've seen so far. I think they will force Troy to beat them with his arm and head. There will be a lot of pressure until he proves he can make them pay.

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    let's see, USC crushed Stanford and Stanford whipped us, this should be fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorcho View Post
    let's see, USC crushed Stanford and Stanford whipped us, this should be fun.

    plus the last two times we stunk it up it in the Coliseum, greatly underperforming on offense when we all had high hopes and expectations and USC was vulnerable. Two years ago we were coming off the 63 points against Oregon and Travis threw 4 picks (IIRC). In 2013, we could barely get the ball across midfield. We are generally pathetic down there.

    We have no chance if LA Ute shows up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorcho View Post
    let's see, USC crushed Stanford and Stanford whipped us, this should be fun.
    Hey, after 3 quarters USC was ahead of Stanford only 28-17. Brady Poppinga would call that a win.

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    Wilner sees us in the Sun Bowl, as far as mid-level bowls go, this isn't a bad one IMO

    http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/10/1...new-years-six/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorcho View Post
    Wilner sees us in the Sun Bowl, as far as mid-level bowls go, this isn't a bad one IMO

    http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/10/1...new-years-six/

    I saw a projection somewhere that had us matched against UVA in the Sun. That would be fun. Can you imagine the meltdown in Provo if Bronco beat Whit as a wahoo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    I saw a projection somewhere that had us matched against UVA in the Sun. That would be fun. Can you imagine the meltdown in Provo if Bronco beat Whit as a wahoo?
    haven't they dusted their wooden clogging dance shoes on Bronco? That would be a fun matchup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorcho View Post
    haven't they dusted their wooden clogging dance shoes on Bronco?


    Actually, I think the more intelligent BYU fans miss Bronco. I miss him. He was the Energizer Bunny of goofy quotes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post


    Actually, I think the more intelligent BYU fans miss Bronco. I miss him. He was the Energizer Bunny of goofy quotes.
    And goofy faces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    We have no chance if LA Ute shows up.
    I thought about not going, honestly, but I’m going to be selfish and attend the game. It will be my fourth visit to the Colosseum since we joined the conference. So far I am oh for the decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    I saw a projection somewhere that had us matched against UVA in the Sun. That would be fun. Can you imagine the meltdown in Provo if Bronco beat Whit as a wahoo?
    Honest to goodness, I could accept a close loss to UVA on a miracle play or garbage call late just to see the reaction from BYU fans over that. Goodness knows that's the only way a Bronco-coached team has ever beaten us.

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    Troy and Troy march into Troy: Utah @USC 2017

    I would like to see some second down and short situations in this game. Would also be nice to simply get a first down on first down. I know that there is a lot that goes in to making such things happen, but I think we were in too many situations where it was third and short over and over again. Often we made a first down by an inch or two. Of course those first downs count, but that’s just emblematic of how hard it was for us to move the ball. I guess I hope the offense is a little bit more explosive this time. A lot of that depends on playcalling, and a lot depends on our offensive line, which I hope will get its act together better for this Saturday’s game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    I would like to see some second down and short situations in this game. Would also be nice to simply get a first down on first down. I know that there is a lot that goes in to making such things happen, but I think we were in too many situations where it was third and short over and over again. Often we made a first down by an inch or two. Of course those first downs count, but that’s just emblematic of how hard it was for us to move the ball. I guess I hope the offense is a little bit more explosive this time. A lot of that depends on playcalling, and a lot depends on our offensive line, which I hope will get its act together better for this Saturday’s game.
    Some UCLA fan tweeted last week "Without Huntley, this is the same Utah team we've seen for the past 6 years. With him, this is the best team in the south."

    I think if we win, we win playing Kyle-ball. We need two TD drives (probably coming on big plays) and a few FGs (coming on turnovers). And then we need to milk clock and play defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Some UCLA fan tweeted last week "Without Huntley, this is the same Utah team we've seen for the past 6 years. With him, this is the best team in the south."

    I think if we win, we win playing Kyle-ball. We need two TD drives (probably coming on big plays) and a few FGs (coming on turnovers). And then we need to milk clock and play defense.
    Hard to play Kyle ball unless our running backs really step up. If they replicate John White, Booker, or Joe W, then maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Some UCLA fan tweeted last week "Without Huntley, this is the same Utah team we've seen for the past 6 years. With him, this is the best team in the south."

    I think if we win, we win playing Kyle-ball. We need two TD drives (probably coming on big plays) and a few FGs (coming on turnovers). And then we need to milk clock and play defense.
    I think you are probably right. To accomplish that with Kyle-ball, of course, everything will have to go right for us. No big turnovers by us (such as a pick six), only one big play given up to USC, our D will need to get some turnovers, and so forth. Almost no margin for error. I’m not as confident as you are that we will be able to get some big plays. I hope so, but we’ll see. Within a few minutes of the first quarter we will probably know which Troy Williams is showing up for this game. That will tell the tale, I think.

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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    I’m not as confident as you are
    I'm not confident at all. I give us a 10-15% chance. All I'm saying is, if we win, I think it happens in that way.

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    I just heard Scott Mitchell on the Riley show podcast. He says with an injury to the throwing shoulder and related structures, a quarterback really is not himself for the rest of the season. He thinks we will not see Huntley at full strength until next year. That is not a cheery thought but I guess it may be what we’re looking at.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
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    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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    When KW says Huntley "might play" and it is "day to day," can we conclude that he is not playing--that the purpose of that comment is to keep USC guessing? If Huntley really might play, KW would not comment, so as to possibly catch them by surprise???

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    We see these three stats, we win ...

    45-plus carries/designed runs

    At least 7 punts for USC

    Carrington 100-plus yards receiving

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    If you’re going to the game here in LA, keep in mind that the Dodgers game and the USC-Utah game begin at the same time. The same freeways lead to both places. Give yourself extra time.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    somebody fairly close to the team just told me Huntley is playing tonight. FWIW. not sure I believe it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    somebody fairly close to the team just told me Huntley is playing tonight. FWIW. not sure I believe it.
    That would be an interesting development. Maybe Davir is blowing smokescreen.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight Schr-Ute View Post
    That would be an interesting development. Maybe Davir is blowing smokescreen.




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    Yeah, I not sure I believe it either; who knows. Please disregard anything I have to say.
    Last edited by concerned; 10-14-2017 at 03:26 PM.

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    I think the Utes need psychotherapy about the red zone. It’s so strange how we fall apart there.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    I think the Utes need psychotherapy about the red zone. It’s so strange how we fall apart there.
    At this point, I think it's clear there is some kind of curse involved. I mean, the Cubs and their goat had less evidence than we do.

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    Well maybe with that touchdown we got a little bit of the red zone monkey off our backs.

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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
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    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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    Usually we get this many turnovers we win the game. Hope so.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
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    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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