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    Bedeviling the Sun Devils 2017

    Well, let’s get this one started. I hope the Utes come out this week angry and determined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    Well, let’s get this one started. I hope the Utes come out this week angry and determined.
    Did anyone watch the ASU/Washington game? What did the Sun Devils do to hold the Washington offense to 7 points? I fear for our offense a bit if the Sun Devil defense is confident and disruptive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrenrut View Post
    Did anyone watch the ASU/Washington game? What did the Sun Devils do to hold the Washington offense to 7 points? I fear for our offense a bit if the Sun Devil defense is confident and disruptive.
    ASU did what they always do - blitzed like mad.

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    This game all of the sudden has some intrigue as ASU is a real threat to get bowl eligible in the South, as are their counterparts the Wildcats. However, this is the Pac 12, and is fairly inconsistent from week to week. I like the Utes in this one, big.
    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrenrut View Post
    Did anyone watch the ASU/Washington game? What did the Sun Devils do to hold the Washington offense to 7 points? I fear for our offense a bit if the Sun Devil defense is confident and disruptive.
    ASU had a bye week prior to this game. We mock Todd Graham, but he and his coaches didn't get to where they're at by not being able to generate good gameplans. Props to the coaches for the gameplan and to the players for carrying out their instructions.

    Watkins is a good QB, and was statistically better than Troy last year. The problem at ASU has never been about offense, just like the problem at Utah has never been about defense. I think we win, but I don't know about covering 10.5 points. I will say it would be incredibly discouraging to lose and find ourselves two full games back of a team whose coach was a dead man walking not even a month ago.

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    Looking at the game summary and box score-

    ASU was coming off a bye week, and playing at home. One ASU player said after the game that "It's not a shock to us. This game is what's going to turn the ship around. We dominated them tonight." That's an interesting mix of confidence and hope. My hope is that they do what happens a lot after a team has a huge win, a big letdown the following week.

    Washington missed 2 short field goals. Browning was sacked 5 times. It was a very clean game on both sides in both turnovers and penalties. Washington was held to 230 yards total offense. ASU also had more time of possession 35 minutes to 25 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    This game all of the sudden has some intrigue as ASU is a real threat to get bowl eligible in the South, as are their counterparts the Wildcats. However, this is the Pac 12, and is fairly inconsistent from week to week. I like the Utes in this one, big.
    I think bowl eligibility is a formality for ASU now. Their last four are all very winnable, and one of their two road games is at Oregon State. They're the last team standing that can realistically challenge USC for the South title. They'll be ready -- win this one and the next week they get USC in Tempe for what will likely decide the South crown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCalPat View Post
    I think bowl eligibility is a formality for ASU now. Their last four are all very winnable, and one of their two road games is at Oregon State. They're the last team standing that can realistically challenge USC for the South title. They'll be ready -- win this one and the next week they get USC in Tempe for what will likely decide the South crown.

    sounds like a classic trap game to me. I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    sounds like a classic trap game to me. I hope.
    If we beat ASU, and ASU can beat USC, we're right back in this thing. Tiebreaker should favor the team that doesn't have to play Oregon State.

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    Huntley told Bill Riley this afternoon he’s cleared to practice.

    Said he has no pain, his passes have the same zip, and he tried to sneak in to practice and take reps the past two weeks but got kicked out

    Said he thought he had a chance to play last week, said it’s a greater chance this week


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    Quote Originally Posted by Diehard Ute View Post
    Huntley told Bill Riley this afternoon he’s cleared to practice.

    Said he has no pain, his passes have the same zip, and he tried to sneak in to practice and take reps the past two weeks but got kicked out

    Said he thought he had a chance to play last week, said it’s a greater chance this week


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    Sweet! Feel for Troy. He was so close (twice) to getting us a win.

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    Someone asked Whittingham about this yesterday. He said ASU got several sacks (like 6 or 8)

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    Depending on which casino you're looking at, Vegas favors our guys by between 8 1/2 and 10 points. ?!?!?!

    I get being favored, but it's like the sportsbooks are writing off the ASU-UW game as a fluke. Surprising, and not sure I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redastheycome View Post
    Depending on which casino you're looking at, Vegas favors our guys by between 8 1/2 and 10 points. ?!?!?!

    I get being favored, but it's like the sportsbooks are writing off the ASU-UW game as a fluke. Surprising, and not sure I agree.
    On the other hand, ASU is going on the road to one of the tougher venues to go and get a win in against a team who very nearly beat USC on the road and is now somewhat desperate at 1-2 in league play.
    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    Have they said anything about Singleton's injury or status?

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    In the circumstances we are in - coming off two close losses to the better conference opponents - this game sure feels like a must win. I think most of us came away from USC with more confidence, but playing a great game against USC doesn't really mean much if we follow it up with a loss here.

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    According to Bill Riley, Huntley has officially been cleared to play.


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    Defense starting off shaky. Hope they tighten up.

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    If our defense does not stiffen up, this could get ugly.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    If our defense does not stiffen up, this could get ugly.
    This is 100% on the offense so far. Not sure why we don't try to run.

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    10:30 minutes to 4:30 of possession in 1st Q. Moss with two carries so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    10:30 minutes to 4:30 of possession in 1st Q. Moss with two carries so far.
    Right, our offense needs to keep the ASU offense off the field. We need to score. It would be nice to get a turnover at this point.

    But is not our defense being pretty much shredded right now?
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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
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    I mean, maybe the defense is tired, but if so they’ve been tired since the first snap of the game.

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    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    I mean, maybe the defense is tired, but if so they’ve been tired since the first snap of the game.
    You're right. The defense is also to blame. I was wrong about 100% on the O.

    Finally got a stop. Let's make some points happen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    You're right. The defense is also to blame. I was wrong about 100% on the O.
    The bright spot of the game for us right now is our punter’s performance.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    This is on the d. They gave forced 1 punt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
    This is on the d. They gave forced 1 punt
    I guess it's been a team effort because the offense has been a disaster.

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    3 drives over 80 yards

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    We miss Hansen and tauteoli

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
    We miss Hansen and tauteoli

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    Looks like the line of scrimmage is where we are being dominated.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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