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    Season Efficiency 2017-2018

    I'm sorry I'm a little behind but this will be the thread for this season which is now upon us.
    Had some computer issues but all is good now.

    I'll start with tonight's game Missouri and work my way back to get caught up, even though the first 2 games shouldn't really count.

    For good measure...basketball efficiency is (Pts+Rebs+Asts+Blks+Stls) - (Turnovers +(Shots missed))

    Welcome to the 2017-2018 season.

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    Game 3 Efficiency - Utah 88 Missouri 53 (Utah 77-59)

    UTAH EFF +/- EFF MISSOURI
    Donnie Tillman 22 +8.3 12 Reed Nikko
    Gabe Bealer 14 +0.7 9 Kassius Robertson
    Jayce Johnson 14 -- 8 Jordan Geist
    Tyler Rawson 12 -6.3 7 Kevin Puryear
    Justin Bibbins 12 -0.7 6 Jordan Barnett
    David Collette 8 -5.7 5 Jontay Porter
    Sedrick Barefield 6 -7.0 5 Terrence Phillips
    Parker Van Dyke 1 -2.0 3 Blake Harris
    Chris Seeley 0 -8.0 0 Cullen VanLeer
    Jake Connor 0 -0.3 -2 Jeremiah Tilmon
    Mark Reininger 0 --

    Kolbe Caldwell -1 -2.0


    Donnie Tillman posted the first double-double of the season for the Utes, 13 points, 11 rebounds.
    In the first two games Utah was allowing 9 steals per game and had 35 turnovers. Versus Missouri Utah allowed 2 steals and only 4 turnovers.
    This was the first game all season Utah shot under 50% at 29/63 46%
    Fouls were even at 20 but Utah gave up 12 more free throw attempts and 8 makes 10/13 vs 18/25.
    Utah is only allowing 33.7% from the field, while shooting 49.2% as a team.
    Utah had 15 more possessions than Missouri 71 to 56 due to the turnover difference.
    Last edited by The Thrill; 11-16-2017 at 11:59 PM.

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    Good showing last night. I think we are gonna like this Tillman kid.

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    I think if you asked most serious fans to name our 3 best players, the top 3, in some order, would be Collette, Barefield, and Bibbins. For us to beat the crap out of Mizzou and have none of those 3 finish in the top 4 for efficiency bodes extremely well for this team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scratch View Post
    I think if you asked most serious fans to name our 3 best players, the top 3, in some order, would be Collette, Barefield, and Bibbins. For us to beat the crap out of Mizzou and have none of those 3 finish in the top 4 for efficiency bodes extremely well for this team.
    It's funny you say that. Tyler Rawson is actually the most well rounded player on the team by the numbers...I'll explain later.
    Last edited by The Thrill; 11-17-2017 at 09:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Thrill View Post
    It's funny you say that. Tyler Rawson is actually the most well rounded player on the team by the nubmers...I'll explain later.
    I'm assuming that must be based on this year's numbers and can be attributed to a small sample size. I can't imagine last year's numbers would have reflected that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scratch View Post
    I'm assuming that must be based on this year's numbers and can be attributed to a small sample size. I can't imagine last year's numbers would have reflected that.
    Or it could be that the dude is an effing baller!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Applejack View Post
    Or it could be that the dude is an effing baller!
    Here you go, Scratch and Applejack are both right. If you rank every player through three games, on the Utes, Tyler has the best rankings across the board
    Granted the sample size isn't very large but as for right now he's the most balanced player

    1st on the team in 3pt attempts, Defensive rebounds, total rebounds, blocks, Efficiency per game and assists to turnovers.
    2nd on the team in shot attempts, 3pt makes, offensive rebounds, steals, 3pt %, FT%
    3rd on the team in minutes, shots made, assists, points
    4th on the team in free throw makes, free throw attempts
    5th on the team in points per minute
    7th on the team in turnovers per game (in the good way)
    8th on the team in shooting %
    9th on the team in fouls
    His average rank for all 22 categories is 3.05

    2nd is Donnie Tillman at 4.50
    3rd is Sedrick Barefield at 4.91
    4th is David Collette at 5.05
    5th is Gabe Bealer at 5.09
    6th is Jayce Johnson at 5.59
    7th is Justin Bibbins at 5.64 (turnovers and fouls drop him)
    8th is Chris Seeley at 6.86
    9th is Parker VanDyke at 7.77
    10th is Jakub Jokl at 8.50

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    Game 1 Efficiency - Utah 86 Prairie View A&M 45 (Utah 83-62)

    PLAYER PER +/- PLAYER PER
    Tyler Rawson 21 +2.7 Gary Blackston 13
    David Collette 20 +6.3 Shaquille Preston 12
    Sedrick Barefield 20 +7.0 JD Wallace 7
    Justin Bibbins 8 -4.7 Dennis Jones 6
    Chris Seeley 7 -1.0 Zachary Hamilton 4
    Donnie Tillman 5 -8.7 Isaih Hood 4
    Gabe Bealer 2 -11.3 Iwin Ellis 0
    Parker Van Dyke 2 -1.0 Austin Starr 0
    Jakub Jokl 2 -2.0 Troy Thompson -1
    Christian Popoola 2 +2.0 Shay'rone Jett -1
    Kolbe Caldwell 0 -1.0 Keion Alexander -2
    Jake Connor -3 -3.3

    19 Utah turnovers, allowed 9 steals.
    66.7%% from the line

    Good game to clean the rust off.

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    Game 2 Efficiency - Utah 126 MS Valley St 36 (Utah 91-51)

    PLAYER PER +/- PLAYER PER
    Gabe Bealer 24 +10.7 Gemaal Davis 12
    Tyler Rawson 22 +3.7 Emmanuel Ejeh 7
    Justin Bibbins 18 +5.3 Tereke Eckwood 6
    Chris Seeley 17 +9.0 Jordan Evans 5
    Donnie Tillman 14 +0.3 Jamal Watson 4
    David Collette 13 -0.7 Arinze Anakwenze 2
    Parker Van Dyke 6 +3.0 Jeffery Lewis 1
    Jakub Jokl 6 +2.0 Henry Taylor 1
    Kolbe Caldwell 4 +3.0 LaCurtis Allen 0
    Jake Connor 4 +3.7 Lorenzo Hunt 0
    Christian Popoola -2 -2.0 Dante Scott -1



    Kaleb Allison -1



    Nate Nahimy -2

    Keep in mind the +/- is the difference in their season efficiency, not the +/- score when they're on the floor that many stats now provide.

    Good tune up game. Still 16 turnovers. Utah shot 44.8% from deep, Bealer 6/8, Utah allowed 28.6% from MSVST 18/63.
    Ho hum...bring on some real competition.

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    Game 4 Efficiency - Utah 95 Ole Miss 79 (Utah 83-74)

    PLAYER PER +/- PLAYER PER
    Justin Bibbins 22 +7.0 Deandre Burnett 20
    Tyler Rawson 21 +2.0 Breein Tyree 11
    Donnie Tillman 17 +2.5 Devontae Shuler 9
    David Collette 14 +0.3 Markel Crawford 7
    Parker Van Dyke 10 +5.3 Bruce Stevens 7
    Sedrick Barefield 6 -4.7 Justas Furmanavicius 7
    Kolbe Caldwell 3 +1.5 Terence Davis 6
    Jayce Johnson 3 -5.5 Marcanvis Hymon 4
    Gabe Bealer -1 -10.8 Dominik Olejniczak 2

    Yes Bibbins had a great game going 5/8 from deep, 36 minutes with only 2 turnovers and 4 assists.
    But Rawson had the 6th best performance of the season and his 3rd in the top 6 performances...there's only been 4 games.

    Rawson 9 points, 10 rebounds, 7 assists, 2 steals and 1 block. If he hits 3 of the 5 shots he missed his efficiency shoots up to 33.
    He is becoming the most consistent player on the team.

    Bealer 24 is still the season high but there are now 8 20+ PER performances for Utah this year.

    Utah was +8 on assists and +7% from the free throw line. Utah had 16 turnovers (averaging 13.8 per game for the season)...terrible
    For the first time all year Utah had less blocks than their opponent.\

    Utah picked up 37.9% of all offensive rebound opportunities (averaging 31.7% )

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    Game 5 Efficiency - UNLV 123 Utah 49 (UNLV 85-58)

    Well that escalated quickly.

    PLAYER PER +/- PLAYER PER Rank
    Donnie Tillman 19 +3.6 Brandon McCoy 35 #1
    Jayce Johnson 12 +2.3 Jordan Johnson 20 #2
    Tyler Rawson 11 -6.4 Jovan Mooring 15 #4
    Justin Bibbins 9 -4.8 Kris Clyburn 12 #6
    David Collette 6 -6.2 Shakur Juiston 5 #24
    Gabe Bealer 0 -7.8 Amauri Hardy 2
    Kolbe Caldwell 0 -1.2 Jay Green 2
    Jakub Jokl 0 -2.7 Tervell Beck 1
    Christian Popoola -1 -0.7 Cheickna Dembele 1
    Jake Connor -2 -1.8 Cheikh Mbacke Diong 1
    Parker Van Dyke -3 -6.2 Anthony Smith 0
    Sedrick Barefield -4 -11.0



    As you can see in the far right column, that's the individual players ranking for a Utah opponent for this season.
    UNLV put up 4 of the top 6 performances in this game. The 35 PER for McCoy might go down as the season high against Utah...Until Trier and Ayton at least.

    Tillman continues to be strong. I still have Rawson as the #1 player on Utah but Tillman is right behind him. Rawson's ability to shoot the 3 gives him the advantage right now.
    Tillman got his second double/double of the season 14 pts, 11 rebounds.
    I love watching Jayce play, he's a lanky and awkward guy but he loves to rebound. His offensive game is still week. The travelling he was called on is a simple footworking tweak. He pivoted on the same foot but he switched from his toes to his heel, refs like to call that one. It doesn't feel like a travel but it is. If he can stay on his toes the up and under will be there. The announcers likened his game to Kevin McHale, I like that comparison. If he can learn to run on his toes, he's very flat footed and that's why he appears awkward, then he could be an NBA guy.

    Utah was -16 in rebounds, only the second time they've been outrebounded all season. -5 on assists was the first time their opponent had more assists. The Utes were also -10 from the field and -15% in shots. Shooting 35% for the game will do that. Only 2/20 at 10% from deep...yikes!.

    This was the highest possession game of year at 139 combined but only the third highest score at 143. This game had the lowest attempts from deep at 36 combined, Utah games average 46 attempts. A lot of that is UNLV, they only attempted 16 and made 5. Didn't matter since they were 26/46 at 56.5% from inside the arc.

    Last year I was tracking efficiency per minute, the magic number was 1. If Utah gets over 1 they win, if they get under 1 they lose.
    Below are the season results so far.
    OPPONENT EFF PER MIN
    Prairie View AM 1.4
    Mississippi Valley St 1.8
    Missouri 1.2
    Ole Miss 1.5
    UNLV 0.7

    Bring on Eastern Washington.
    The Eagles are 307th in FG%, 59th in scoring and 192nd in rebounding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Thrill View Post
    As you can see in the far right column, that's the individual players ranking for a Utah opponent for this season.
    UNLV put up 4 of the top 6 performances in this game. The 35 PER for McCoy might go down as the season high against Utah...Until Trier and Ayton at least.
    7-0 center Brandon McCoy is the real deal. Averaging 20 and 12 while playing just 23 MPG. Five guys averaging double figures and size for miles.
    SoCal called this one.

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    Game 6 Efficiency - Utah 105 Eastern Washington 79 (Utah 85-69)

    PLAYER PER Rank +/- PLAYER PER Rank
    David Collette 29 #1 +14.0 Luka Vulikic 19
    #4
    Tyler Rawson 17 #12 -0.3 Jacob Davison 16 #5
    Sedrick Barefield 16 #15 +7.2 Bogdan Bliznyuk 14 #7
    Justin Bibbins 15 #16 +1.0 Mason Peatling 9 #14
    Gabe Bealer 9 +1.0 Richard Polanco 7 #18
    Jayce Johnson 8 -1.3 Jack Perry 4
    Donnie Tillman 7 -7.0 Ty Gibson 3
    Jake Connor 3 +2.6 Cody Benzel 3
    Parker Van Dyke 2 -1.0 Sir Washington 0
    Jakub Jokl 0 -2.0 Benas Griciunas -4
    Kolbe Caldwell -1 -1.8 Jesse Hunt -4
    Mark Reininger -1 -0.5


    Christian Popoola -2 -1.3



    David Collette was obviously the guy EW couldn't stop. 11/12 from the field?
    EW is a streaky team, if they get hot they can beat a lot of teams, if they aren't hitting they will lose easily. Last night was the latter.
    5/27 from deep 18.5% is a bad night. Utah owned every category last night except steals, -4 and possessions -14.
    That game saw 53 three point attempts, third time that's happened this season. Utah is 3-0 in those games.
    The only game Utah lost there were only 36 attempts. Key, make them shoot from deep and make threes on your end. Sounds simple.

    Utah has only allowed 13 double digit efficiency scores all season, 3 came against EW.
    On the other hand Utah has scored 26 double digit efficiency games, 4 came against EW.

    Next game is vs Hawaii- 179th in FG%, 347th in 3pt %, 316th in scoring, 122nd in rebounding.
    Utah is 108th in FG%, 241st in 3pt %, 60th in scoring, 93rd in rebounding.

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    National Rankings Top 25

    Player Team PER
    1 Trae Young Oklahoma 30.2
    2 Jordan Murphy Minnesota 29.8
    3 Femi Olujobi N.C. A&T 29.7
    4 Ajdin Penava Marshall 28.9
    5 Bonzie Colson Notre Dame 28.1
    6 Melvin Frazier Tulane 27.6
    7 Deandre Ayton Arizona 27.2
    8 Tra Holder Arizona St. 26.8
    9 Zach Thomas Bucknell 26.1
    10 Marvin Bagley III Duke 25.7
    11 Brandon McCoy UNLV 25.5
    12 Daniel Utomi Akron 25.5
    13 Matt Scott Niagara 25.0
    14 Kevin Hervey TX Arlington 24.8
    15 Shakur Juiston UNLV 24.4
    16 Chris Cokley UAB 24.4
    17 Ben Lammers Georgia Tech 24.4
    18 Dylan Windler Belmont 24.2
    19 Mikal Bridges Villanova 24.0
    20 Kameron Chatman Detroit 23.9
    21 Nick King Middle Tenn. St. 23.8
    22 Jock Landale St. Mary's 23.6
    23 Jordan Fox Army 23.0
    24 Collin Sexton Alabama 23.0
    25 Jon Elmore Marshall 22.9

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    Pac12 Top 25

    Player Team PER
    1 Deandre Ayton Arizona 27.2
    2 Tra Holder Arizona St. 26.8
    3 Thomas Welsh UCLA 21.6
    4 Robert Franks Washington St. 21.3
    5 Tres Tinkle Oregon St. 20.3
    6 Reid Travis Stanford 20.1
    7 Allonzo Trier Arizona 19.9
    8 Shannon Evans II Arizona St. 19.9
    9 Jordan McLaughlin USC 19.8
    10 George King Colorado 18.9
    11 Noah Dickerson Washington 18.8
    12 De'Quon Lake Arizona St. 18.6
    13 Drew Eubanks Oregon St. 18.0
    14 McKinley Wright IV Colorado 17.8
    15 Tyler Rawson Utah 17.7
    16 Malachi Flynn Washington St. 17.6
    17 Bennie Boatwright USC 17.4
    18 Romello White Arizona St. 17.4
    19 Jaylen Nowell Washington 17.3
    20 Aaron Holiday UCLA 17.3
    21 Chimezie Metu USC 17.2
    22 Payton Pritchard Oregon 16.6
    23 Marcus Lee California 16.2
    24 Don Coleman California 15.4
    25 David Collette Utah 15.3

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    Utah 104 Hawai'i 69 (Utah 80-60)

    PLAYER PER +/- PLAYER PER Rank
    David Collette 20 +4.3 Mike Thomas 13 #8
    Donnie Tillman 19 +4.3 Drew Buggs 13 #8
    Tyler Rawson 16 -1.1 Samuta Avea 6
    Gabe Bealer 14 +5.1 Brandon Thomas 5
    Justin Bibbins 14 -- Sheriff Drammeh 3
    Jayce Johnson 14 +3.8 Leland Green 3
    Jake Connor 3 +2.2 Jack Purchase 3
    Mark Reininger 2 +1.7 Gibson Johnson 2
    Jakub Jokl 0 -1.6 Ido Flaisher 2
    Christian Popoola 0 +0.6 Brocke Stepteau 1
    Sedrick Barefield -1 -8.2 Zach Buscher 0
    Parker Van Dyke -2 -4.3 Zigmars Raimo 0

    First off, it felt like Tyler had a bad game...still had a 16 player efficiency rating. 1/5 from the field, 0/3 from deep...ho hum. But 9 rebounds, 5 assists, only 2 turnovers, 2 steals, 2 blocks. The dude is a stat sheet stuffer.
    The announcers made a comment that Rawson is a true triple double threat. Can't say that about a lot of guys but he just does everything. I still have him as the #1 rated player on the team.

    2nd, guard play has to improve. PVD needs to get out of this slump. 10/33 on the season only 4/22 from deep. We can't have a key shooter going 18.2% from deep. It will never open up the inside.
    Bealer has been consistent from 3 shooting 57.1% at 16/28 and that's been the best part of the season other than Tillman.

    Barefield is up and down. Bad vs UNLV, great vs E Washington then bad vs Hawai'i. Hopefully that means he'll be great at Butler.

    Collette has only had 2 sup 10 PER games (Missouri and UNLV) The only bad thing about that is those are the best 2 teams Utah has played so far. Will he show up vs Butler?

    Tillman continues to impress. The game seems to have already slowed down for him. He reacts before the play happens, that's a great sign for a freshman. He almost got his 3rd double-double of the season last night but unlike Rawson he lacks that's third level to get a triple double. Only 4 assists on the season. He's 54.2% from the field, and tied for first at the line at 85.7% 24/28. If Tillman can turn into a dangerous passer he could jump to the NBA before his senior season.

    Utah has only been in one close game (less than 10 pt difference) all season Ole Miss. I hope they can hang with Butler. I see that one as a close one Butler -2. If Collette and Barefield decide to show up I think Utah can pull off the win.

    Go Utes!

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    Season stats:

    9 players averaging 10+ minutes per game, but Caldwell didn't get in at all in the last game.

    Barefield leading the team in minutes, but Rawson and Bibbins are right there with him.

    3 players in double digit scoring, with two more at 9.9 and 9.7. That's really balanced.

    Jayce gets a rebound every other minute.

    Tillman and Rawson lead the team with 6.9 rpg.

    Bibbins with 4.3 apg and 1.7 tpg. Barefield is the only guard with an assist-to-turnover ratio lower than 1 (3.3 to 3.7).

    The team is 33% from outside. 78% from the line.

    Of regular minute guys, only Barefield and PVD are shooting below 40% from the field (36% and 30%, respectively).

    3-point FG% (with at least 10 attempts):

    Bealer 57%
    Connor 40%
    Bibbins 38%
    Rawson 34%
    Barefield 21%
    Caldwell 20%
    PVD 18%

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    Rawson has made some meaningful improvement. PVD has been a real disappointment.


    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Season stats:

    9 players averaging 10+ minutes per game, but Caldwell didn't get in at all in the last game.

    Barefield leading the team in minutes, but Rawson and Bibbins are right there with him.

    3 players in double digit scoring, with two more at 9.9 and 9.7. That's really balanced.

    Jayce gets a rebound every other minute.

    Tillman and Rawson lead the team with 6.9 rpg.

    Bibbins with 4.3 apg and 1.7 tpg. Barefield is the only guard with an assist-to-turnover ratio lower than 1 (3.3 to 3.7).

    The team is 33% from outside. 78% from the line.

    Of regular minute guys, only Barefield and PVD are shooting below 40% from the field (36% and 30%, respectively).

    3-point FG% (with at least 10 attempts):

    Bealer 57%
    Connor 40%
    Bibbins 38%
    Rawson 34%
    Barefield 21%
    Caldwell 20%
    PVD 18%

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    Quote Originally Posted by justaute View Post
    Rawson has made some meaningful improvement.
    I'm waiting for Pac-12 play before I agree on Rawson. He was always great against poor competition.

    PVD and Barefield have both had a real rough start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    I'm waiting for Pac-12 play before I agree on Rawson. He was always great against poor competition.

    PVD and Barefield have both had a real rough start.
    Don't disagree. I've been hard on Rawson, so wanted go give him some credit for his early season work thus far. We'll see.

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    Butler 107 Utah 66 (Butler 81-69)

    PLAYER PER +/- PLAYER PER RANK
    Donnie Tillman 20 +4.6 Kelan Martin 32 #2
    Justin Bibbins 11 -2.6 Tyler Wideman 22 #3
    Jayce Johnson 9 -1.0 Paul Jorgensen 19 #6
    Gabe Bealer 8 -0.8 Kamar Baldwin 13 #11
    David Collette 7 -7.6 Aaron Thompson 4
    Sedrick Barefield 5 -1.9 Henry Baddley 1
    Tyler Rawson 4 -11.5 Nate Fowler 1
    Parker Van Dyke 1 -1.1 Christian David 0



    Joey Brunk -1


    Layups are hard. Utah shot 42.4%. 35% in the loss to UNLV.
    They are 6-0 shooting over 43% 0-2 shooting under 43%
    Utah is 6-0 when they hold their opponent under 80. 0-2 when opponents score over 80
    Same goes for assists/turnovers 6-0 when opponent is under 1. 0-2 when over 1.
    In 2 losses the opponent efficiency per minute is 1.78
    In 6 wins the opponent efficiency per minute is 0.91
    Utah has only been under 1 EPM once (UNLV). 1.11 vs Butler 2nd lowest

    Season low in free throw attempts and makes 9/11 (avg 15.4/19.6)
    26 rebounds was the first time Utah had less than 30 rebounds. Avg 37.5
    Utah shot better from deep by 3.5% vs Butler but were -12.2% from the field overall.

    Collette once again disappeared vs superior talent. I'm starting to think he's playing up a level.

    At this point, Tillman and maybe Bibbins are the only Pac12 level players on this team. Maybe Rawson.
    That's sad since Tillman and Bibbins weren't on the team last year.

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    Overall player rankings on the team

    FYI, Donnie Tillman is now my #1 ranked player on the team across the board.
    The numbers below are where they rank on the team.

    TEAM RANKING
    MPG FGM/G FGA/G 3PM/G 3PA/G FTM/G FTA/G OFFR/G DEFR/G REB/G AST/G TO/G STL/G BLK/G PF/G PTS/G EFF/G FG% 3P% FT% AST/TO PTS/MIN
    Total
    Tyler Rawson
    3 7 5 3 2 4 3 4 1 3 2 11 3 1 10 5 1 8 5 6 1 9
    97
    Donnie Tillman
    4 2 3 6 8 2 2 1 2 1 7 14 5 3 8 2 2 4 2 2 9 2
    91

    Rawson FG% is dropping off and his fouls are high.
    If Tillman can get a handle on his turnovers, 1.5 per game, and improve his assists, he'll run away with this.

    91 Donnie Tillman
    97 Tyler Rawson
    107 Justin Bibbins
    108 David Collette
    120 Sedrick Barefield
    136 Gabe Bealer
    150 Jayce Johnson
    157 Chris Seeley
    166 Parker Van Dyke
    200 Jake Connor
    205 Kolbe Caldwell
    213 Jakub Jokl
    232 Christian Popoola
    239 Mark Reininger

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    I'm waiting for Pac-12 play before I agree on Rawson. He was always great against poor competition.

    PVD and Barefield have both had a real rough start.

    Rawson is a good basketball player. High IQ, good shooter. He just isn't a P12 athlete. He'd be great in the MWC or the WCC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by U-Ute View Post
    Rawson is a good basketball player. High IQ, good shooter. He just isn't a P12 athlete. He'd be great in the MWC or the WCC.
    For a guy who went from American Fark --> SLCC --> Utah he always seems to compete. His hustle and IQ could get him a nice career overseas, ala Jordan Loveridge and Alex Jensen.

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    Utah 95 Utah St 90 (Utah 77-67)

    PLAYER PER +/- PLAYER PER RANK
    Justin Bibbins 23 +8.3 DeAngelo Isby 24 3rd
    David Collette 21 +5.7 Quinn Taylor 24 3rd
    Tyler Rawson 18 +2.2 Julion Pearre 10
    Jayce Johnson 8 -1.7 Klay Stall 4
    Parker Van Dyke 8 +5.2 Sam Merill 2
    Sedrick Barefield 7 +0.1 Alex Dargenton 0
    Kolbe Caldwell 6 +4.4 Diogo Brito 0
    Donnie Tillman 0 -13.7 Daron Henson 0
    Gabe Bealer -1 -8.7 Dwayne Brown Jr -1


    Koby McEwen -6

    First off, I had a feeling Collette would show up. Old team, Mtn West team, easy prediction. Now bring it again big man.
    Bibbins was awesome. 3/5 from deep, 7 assists, 4 rebounds. His 23 is the third highest for a Ute this season.
    It was also nice to see PVD get some confidence. 3/4 from deep he's now 13/37 from three 26.9%

    Tillman had a fall back to Earth game which drops him now to third overall on the team (Rawson #1, Bibbins #2)
    Not sure if he was feeling well or the foul trouble just never got him in a groove but he was a non-factor.

    Koby McEwen had been averaging 12.4 pts with 2 20pt games and a season low of 9 (three times). Utah completely took him out. He fouled out with 0 points.
    Bealer and Tillman had poor games but it was nice to see other players step up in their absence.

    This game was perfectly average for Utah.
    An average game for Utah is 78-68 in the score, this was 77-67
    Utah averages 19 fouls, this game was 20
    Utah averages 15 assists, had 15
    Utah was great behind the charity stripe, 86.4% was the season high 19/22
    Only 2 offensive rebounds but a lot of that had to do with shooting 51%
    Utah gave up 12 offensive rebounds to the Aggies, that and 13 more attempts from the field kept the Aggies in this. Aggies were +19 on possessions. -3 on turnovers.

    Utah has only been out-blocked once all year (Mississippi -3) they were +5 vs Utah State
    Utah has only been out-assisted once all year (UNLV -5) they were +4 vs Utah State

    Bring on that other blue team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Thrill View Post
    He fouled out with 0 points.
    "No points, 5 fouls! No points, 5 fouls!"

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    BYU 115 Utah 65 (BYU 77-65)

    PLAYER PER +/- PLAYER PER RANK
    Tyler Rawson 25 +8.3 Elijah Bryant 39 #1
    Gabe Bealer 15 +6.6 Yoeli Childs 11 #22
    David Collette 13 -2.1 Payton Dastrup 11 #22
    Justin Bibbins 5 -8.7 Zac Seljaas 10 #25
    Jayce Johnson 4 -5.0 McKay Cannon 8
    Sedrick Barefield 3 -3.4 Luke Worthington 6
    Kolbe Caldwell 3 +1.3 TJ Haws 6
    Jake Connor 0 -0.7 Jahshire Hardnett 5
    Christian Popoola -1 -0.3


    Parker Van Dyke -3 -5.2



    Lost in the ugliness of this game was Rawson's near triple double. 15 pts, 10 rebounds 8 assists.
    The loss of Tillman was the difference. BYU fans would like to tell you that they were missing Dalton Nixon but that comparison just isn't the same.
    Tillman is averaging 10.9 points but in games he played over 20 minutes he's averaging 18.2 pts and 8 assists. Huge loss.
    Not to mention his perimeter defense which obviously was poor.

    Elijah Bryant, never heard of him until last night, played all 40 minutes, 5/7 from deep and 9 rebounds. I would have to believe Tillman would've had an impact on him defensively.
    But that's the way the cookie crumbles. Bryant had a great game and Utah lost. Bibbins appeared to be forcing it a lot, possibly had a personal vendetta vs BYU from the WCC days.

    Rawson's 25 is just behind Collette's 29 PER vs Eastern Washington. Gabe Bealer had his 2nd best game of the season and should've been more of a key to the offense IMO vs BYU. He owned that baseline.

    Perimeter defense was the difference. -27.3% difference from deep, 10/20 vs 5/22. Only UNLV has a team shot better than deep vs Utah this season.
    Utah's 22.7% from deep was the 2nd lowest of the year, 10% vs UNLV
    Fouls were even but Utah had 4 less attempts.
    Utah has been out-rebounded for the 3rd straight game. Also, for the first time all year Utah didn't register a block, -5 in blocks.
    Rebounding is all about heart, Utah is lacking an aggressiveness lately, one that BYU definitely had last night.

    That was the slowest game of the season. 108 possessions, Utah games average 126 possessions.

    In Utah wins they are +7.4 on rebounding, in Utah losses they are -8.7
    In Utah wins they are +7.3 on assists, in Utah losses they are -2.3

    Those are the biggest factors between wins and losses for Utah. Which tells me desire and offensive movement need to improve.

    Can't win them all. Let's get Tillman and Seeley ready for Pac12 play and shoot for the stars.
    This team isn't bad, they pass well and they defend at times. Perimeter D must improve, Tillman and Seeley help immensely with that.

    Bring on the Demons of Northwestern State
    315th in FG%
    342nd in 3pt%
    330th in scoring
    115th in rebounding.

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