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    2018 Pre-Spring and Spring Football

    Bill Riley projects the 2018 Utah starters:

    Offense: QB - Huntley
    RB - Moss
    T - Barton/Paulo
    G - Agasiva/Capra
    C - Falemaka
    WR - Singleton/Wilson/Covey/Nacua

    Defense
    DE - Anae/Repp
    DT - Fotu/Tonga
    LB - Thompson/Barton
    S - Hansen/Blair
    CB - Blackmon/Johnson/Hughes

    There is a lot of experience in that group. I would expect the JUCO DE and LB to both be in the mix to start. I would probably have Simpkins over Covey right now, but that could easily change by August.

    Heard Mac talking about the read option and Huntley and Mac said you can adjust your blocking scheme to make the QB handoff to the RB but that Utah doesn't do that. I wish Taylor would do that. My sense is Huntley is selfish and looks to run first. He will need to run less to play more.

    Anyway, I am bullish on the Utes in 2018. I don't like a Friday night game after an away game and thought that was something they were going to do away with this year. I wish the bye was a little later in the year. We get an extra week against WSU, Stanford after they play Notre Dame, an extra day for USC, ASU after USC and BYU the last game of the year.

    2018 Utah Football Schedule
    Aug. 30 (Thur.) Weber State Salt Lake City
    Sept. 8 at Northern Illinois DeKalb, Ill.
    Sept. 15 Washington* Salt Lake City
    Sept. 22 bye
    Sept. 29 at Washington State* Pullman, Wash.
    Oct. 6 at Stanford* Stanford, Calif.
    Oct. 12 (Fri.) Arizona* Salt Lake City
    Oct. 20 (hc) USC* Salt Lake City
    Oct. 26 (Fri.) at UCLA* Los Angeles
    Nov. 3 at Arizona State* Tempe, Ariz.
    Nov. 10 Oregon* Salt Lake City
    Nov. 17 at Colorado* Boulder, Colo.
    Nov. 24 Brigham Young Salt Lake City

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    Quote Originally Posted by UTEopia View Post
    I don't like a Friday night game after an away game and thought that was something they were going to do away with this year.
    I think they did away with the Friday night road game after a Sat road game.

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    What other receivers do we expect to emerge--out of Boyd, Dana (too late for him?), Hampton, Thompson, Dixon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    What other receivers do we expect to emerge--out of Boyd, Dana (too late for him?), Hampton, Thompson, Dixon?
    I hope somebody. Way way way too many drops and fumbles with this group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two Utes View Post
    I hope somebody. Way way way too many drops and fumbles with this group.
    Really? I thought this group was significantly better than the prior years. Singleton is usually good for one drop per game and the TE's were terrible, but other than that, I thought this group was pretty solid. I think Boyd, Hampton, Thompson and Dixon all have a shot. Dana should probably transfer or hang it up.

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    I think Mika Tafua starts and gets more reps than Repp. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Ford and/or Umana crack the starting o-line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    What other receivers do we expect to emerge--out of Boyd, Dana (too late for him?), Hampton, Thompson, Dixon?
    I have high hopes for Hampton...mostly because he decommitted from WSU to come to Utah. That seems meaningful for some reason. A lot of folks have speculated that Boyd would've seen time if he had been able to play. We also have the Perriman kid coming in from Florida. I know he signed early, but I'm not clear on whether or not he'll be on campus for spring ball.

    I like the idea of Covey and Nacua being in the slot and running crossing routes all day long.
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    Maybe the surprise Tweet of the week.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight Schr-Ute View Post
    Maybe the surprise Tweet of the week.




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    Further down in the exchange his dad says hes doing lots of pushups and is excited to get back and play again. Ends it with #goutes


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scratch View Post
    I think Mika Tafua starts and gets more reps than Repp. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Ford and/or Umana crack the starting o-line.
    Yeah, Repp as a projected starter at DE is a head-scratcher and red flag. Maybe the light finally turns on for him, but even with all the injury issues Utah had at DE he still hardly played and made almost no impact when he did. Based simply off of the reps (pun totally intended) that were given out this year you'd have to go with Heninger or Hart as the next DE opposite Anae. In reality it will probably either be Tafua or the JC kid that signed.

    Do we know how big Tafua is after his mission? Utah usually likes one bigger DE who is stout against the run and one smaller/faster one who is more of a pass rusher. I think Anae is the pass rusher but maybe that will evolve.

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    For all the hype, Handley came and went without having much of an impact.

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    Cole's a great kid and a heck of an athlete (he was the best player on a very good high school basketball team, too). He also would have been the starting QB if he hadn't gone to school with Sam Darnold and Jack Sears. I think he'll be a good player, but he'll definitely be a great ambassador for the program. He's someone who gets along with everyone and who everyone likes (he was the student body president at San Clemente High). Even if he doesn't wind up being a big difference maker on the field (and I think he will be), he's someone who will help the team and program by just being there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scratch View Post
    Cole's a great kid and a heck of an athlete (he was the best player on a very good high school basketball team, too). He also would have been the starting QB if he hadn't gone to school with Sam Darnold and Jack Sears. I think he'll be a good player, but he'll definitely be a great ambassador for the program. He's someone who gets along with everyone and who everyone likes (he was the student body president at San Clemente High). Even if he doesn't wind up being a big difference maker on the field (and I think he will be), he's someone who will help the team and program by just being there.
    are you surprised he appears to be returning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    are you surprised he appears to be returning?
    No, but I wouldn't be surprised to see he was leaving, either (although I would be surprised to see him go to BYU). I haven't really talked to his Dad since the season started because that's right about when we moved to Utah, but when I spoke to his Dad before the season started he said that they would be watching to see how much Taylor used his TEs. He said they were going to count how often a TE was on the field, and that was more important to them than targets and receptions (although I'm sure more targets and receptions would have been nice). I know they love the U and the coaching staff, and I also know we did have TEs on the field fairly often, so I was hoping that would be enough for him to want to come. Based on the tweets, it looks like it will be enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scratch View Post
    No, but I wouldn't be surprised to see he was leaving, either (although I would be surprised to see him go to BYU). I haven't really talked to his Dad since the season started because that's right about when we moved to Utah, but when I spoke to his Dad before the season started he said that they would be watching to see how much Taylor used his TEs. He said they were going to count how often a TE was on the field, and that was more important to them than targets and receptions (although I'm sure more targets and receptions would have been nice). I know they love the U and the coaching staff, and I also know we did have TEs on the field fairly often, so I was hoping that would be enough for him to want to come. Based on the tweets, it looks like it will be enough.
    You would think that if we had TE's who could catch, they would have been targeted more frequently. Tuesday was just embarrassing, but not abnormal.
    Last edited by concerned; 12-29-2017 at 01:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    What other receivers do we expect to emerge--out of Boyd, Dana (too late for him?), Hampton, Thompson, Dixon?
    Boyd is supposedly a stud and the coaches love him. So, hed be at the top of my list.

    Thompson played a lot for us as a true freshman. Thats impressive.

    Ive always been a Covey doubter. I doubted him as a freshman and I looked silly. Im doubting him again. Im not sure he will be the savior everyone thinks he will be. Two years away is a long time.

    Singleton will be back and he is very good.

    BUT, Im in love with Nacua. As far as natural ability, he is amazing. Better than Carrington. Can he put it all together mentally and keep working physically? If so, whooo baby.

    Next year, Nacua and Singleton will be very, very good. Maybe our best pairing of WRs ever. Hopefully Covey is his old self. If so, thats a top third PAC-12 receiving core.
    Last edited by Utah; 12-29-2017 at 02:07 PM.

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    I still think Taylor would love to use the TEs more. Ours werent healthy or consistent this year.

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    Ive also heard a lot of people worried about DE, but Im not.

    Anae was unreal this year. Especially in the back end of the season. He is top 4 in most stats (TFL, Sacks, Pressure, etc) in the PAC-12. Be is underrated by Utah fans, thats how good he is.

    As far as opposite him? We have a ton of options. Tafua has been on scout team this last year and doing well.

    Hart will be a JR. I know we expect kids to play as FR/SO, but size and experience is huge in football. Dont count him out yet.

    Max Tupai will be a sophomore.

    Davir Hamilton will be a sophomore.

    Heninger played well this year.

    The coaches think Repp has NFL potential. A more athletic Pita T. He is light, but when he rushes the passer, he is fantastic.

    I dont think Riley is too far off base with his Repp prediction. The coaches love him.

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    I said before this last year that our schedule was too hard and our team too young and wed be a 6 to 7 win team unless we were lucky and wed maybe get to 8 wins.

    The good news is, that all changes next year. We go from young and inexperienced to deep and experienced. Our OL will be one of the top returning OLs. Our WRs will be deeeeep. Moss, Shyne and DHC? Forget about it.

    Our DL is deep as the Mississippi. DT is great. Fotu...

    Our LBs are more than solid with Barton, Thompson, Lloyd, Pirtle, etc.

    And our secondary....bbbooooingggg.

    This will be the most talented and deep team weve ever had.

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    As for our schedule, as hard as it was last year, it will be much easier next year.

    Washington plays Auburn a couple weeks before us. We come in the back end of tough three week stretches for a lot of teams.

    USC might be starting a high school senior.

    Falk, Darnold, Rosen will all be gone. ASU is a mess. Oregon has a worse coach. UCLA is a mess. I dont think Kelly will turn it around over night.

    Our toughest games will be Washington and USC. Every other game is very winnable.

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    Question #1: Who starts: Shyne or Moss?

    Question #2: Does it matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by U-Ute View Post
    Question #1: Who starts: Shyne or Moss?

    Question #2: Does it matter?

    1. Moss and it isn't close.

    2. Yes, it matters very much.

    I would guess DHC gets more carries than Shyne next year, unless Moss gets hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scratch View Post
    1. Moss and it isn't close.

    2. Yes, it matters very much.

    I would guess DHC gets more carries than Shyne next year, unless Moss gets hurt.
    I would not have thought this earlier this season, but a switch seemed to flip for Moss in the USC game, and he was a different runner from that point on. And Shyne can't stay healthy. Having a 1-2 punch with Moss and Shyne, with Moss getting most of the load is pretty exciting. If we can just get Huntley to hand them the ball more consistently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Utah View Post
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    BUT, Im in love with Nacua. As far as natural ability, he is amazing. Better than Carrington. Can he put it all together mentally and keep working physically? If so, whooo baby.
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    Wow. No. Put down the Kool aid. Carrington is a very special athlete, and that combination of size, speed, agility, and fluid motion is extremely rare.

    That said, Nacua runs very good routes and has incredible hands. He is a warrior and is one of the best receivers we have recruited in a decade, and will be one of the greats by the time he graduates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
    Wow. No. Put down the Kool aid. Carrington is a very special athlete, and that combination of size, speed, agility, and fluid motion is extremely rare.

    That said, Nacua runs very good routes and has incredible hands. He is a warrior and is one of the best receivers we have recruited in a decade, and will be one of the greats by the time he graduates.
    No way. I'm all in with this kid. I've praised him since he came to Utah and Fehoko went to Stanford. I'm sure you can find somewhere on this site that I said Nacua was better than Fehoko. This kid has special talent.

    I'm drowning in Nacua koolaid.

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    That is fine and Samson Nacua will have an excellent career at Utah. This season I think he didn't drop a pass until the 5th or 6th game of the year. He had incredible hands.

    Also, Raelon Singleton is more athletic than Darren Carrington. He just needs a significant amount of work on his hands. He needs to spend a lot more time with the Juggs machine the way Booker did.

    I have heard from people who attend practice that Bronson Boyd is the real deal, and will also be a serious weapon.

    Now we need to get Britton Covey back in time to shake off the rust, and get back into game form. Is there any way he can come home this week to register for winter semester?

    Our Receivers may be the deepest talent group next year.

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    I agree. You may not love the Samson as I do, but we can agree that the WRs look great. And if Covey comes back? Yikes. Wed be great at WR.

    Its why Im not worried about Taylor. He gets a year to install his system and upgrade the talent and he has done that in spades.

    Our offense has more talent than we had in 2004. Can Taylor/Huntley put it all together? Maybe. Just maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utah View Post
    I agree. You may not love the Samson as I do, but we can agree that the WR’s look great. And if Covey comes back? Yikes. We’d be great at WR.

    It’s why I’m not worried about Taylor. He gets a year to install his system and upgrade the talent and he has done that in spades.

    Our offense has more talent than we had in 2004. Can Taylor/Huntley put it all together? Maybe. Just maybe.
    To me, next year all depends on huntley. Can he improve his accuracy on throws 10-20 yards. He seemed to have better accuracy before his injury, and they brought him back too soon. Most important, can he run the offense better, integrate other skill players esp. Moss better, and be less self reliant. I hope a years experince will show a lot of growth re game management.

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    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    To me, next year all depends on huntley. Can he improve his accuracy on throws 10-20 yards. He seemed to have better accuracy before his injury, and they brought him back too soon. Most important, can he run the offense better, integrate other skill players esp. Moss better, and be less self reliant. I hope a years experince will show a lot of growth re game management.
    I hope Taylor sits down with Huntley and goes through all his run options and run/pass options plays and they digest how much better the Utes could be and how much more Huntley can be on the field if he doesn't try to do everything himself. ARod did that with Travis on interceptions after the last 5-7 season and Travis cut down the number of interceptions significantly and the Utes improved to 9-3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UTEopia View Post
    I hope Taylor sits down with Huntley and goes through all his run options and run/pass options plays and they digest how much better the Utes could be and how much more Huntley can be on the field if he doesn't try to do everything himself. ARod did that with Travis on interceptions after the last 5-7 season and Travis cut down the number of interceptions significantly and the Utes improved to 9-3.
    Kyle has said publicly, at least twice that I've heard, that They want Moss to have more carries and Huntley fewer. I imagine they will try to pound that into Huntley.

    (Kyle also said he wants Tyler to put on 10-20 pounds so he can survive as a QB who loves to run.)

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