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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    The clearer more likely path is via Alabama loss to Auburn, and Georgia loss to LSU. I think LSU and especially Clemson are lost causes. Who's going to beat Clemson? And it's the defending champion.
    South Carolina will give us a two-fer: knock off Clemson after already putting Georgia's odds of making the CFP on life support.

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    The Remaining Schedules:

    LSU:
    @ Ole Miss
    Texas A&M
    Ark
    SEC Champ game (Georgia)

    Ohio St
    @Rutgers
    Penn St
    @ Michigan
    Big10 champ game (Minn/Iowa/Wisc)

    Clemson
    Wake Forest
    @South Carolina
    Acc Champ game (Virginia)

    Georgia
    @Auburn
    Texas A&M
    @GaTech
    SEC champ (LSU)

    Alabama
    @Miss st
    WCU
    @Auburn

    Oregon
    Ariz
    @ ASU
    Oregon St

    Minnesota
    @Iowa
    @Northwestern
    Wisconsin
    Big10 championship (Can Lose one of those games and still play in the Big 10 champ)

    Baylor
    Oklahoma
    Texas
    @Kansas
    Big 12 Champ game (can lose one of those games and still be in champ game)

    Oklahoma
    @Baylor
    TCU
    @Ok St
    Big 12 Champ game (could lose to One of those teams and play in Big 12 champ game)

    Penn St
    Indiana
    @ohio st
    Rutgers
    If they win those 3 they are in the Big10 champ game

    The worst situation for Utah would be for Penn St to beat an undefeated Minnesota in the in Big 10 champ game and Auburn to beat Georgia and lose to bama and Georgia to win the SEC. It would then be:

    11-1 Ohio st
    12-1 Penn St
    13-0 Clemson
    12-1 LSU
    11-2 Georgia
    11-1 Bama
    12-1 Utah
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    Minnesota isn't going to win the Big 10, and South Carolina isn't going to beat Clemson. The most likely scenario that gets the Utes in there is Auburn beats Alabama, and LSU beats Georgia. If Auburn beats both Alabama and Georgia, that would create another problem, with Auburn having beaten Oregon, Alabama, and Georgia, and its only two losses vs. Florida and LSU. So we cheer for Auburn vs. Alabama, but not vs. Georgia and rely on LSU to take out Georgia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Minnesota isn't going to win the Big 10, and South Carolina isn't going to beat Clemson. The most likely scenario that gets the Utes in there is Auburn beats Alabama, and LSU beats Georgia. If Auburn beats both Alabama and Georgia, that would create another problem, with Auburn having beaten Oregon, Alabama, and Georgia, and its only two losses vs. Florida and LSU. So we cheer for Auburn vs. Alabama, but not vs. Georgia and rely on LSU to take out Georgia.
    Makes sense, but I wouldn't worry about Bama. An 11-1 Bama is not getting in over a 12-1 conference champ.

    I think Oklahoma is a legit concern. If they go 12-1, they will have 2-4 wins over the top 25. Utah will only have 1-2. The committee stupidly uses this as a metric.

    LSU is a real threat too. A 12-1 LSU would have a better resume than any other 12-1 team, but they would not be conference champs and would be coming off a loss.

    OSU could be a threat in the same way as LSU, but I can't imagine them putting in two teams from the Big10.
    Last edited by sancho; 11-13-2019 at 07:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Makes sense, but I wouldn't worry about Bama. An 11-1 Bama is not getting in over a 12-1 conference champ.

    I think Oklahoma is a legit concern. If they go 12-1, they will have 2-4 wins over the top 25. Utah will only have 1-2. The committee stupidly uses this as a metric.

    LSU is a real threat too. A 12-1 LSU would have a better resume than any other 12-1 team, but they would not be conference champs and would be coming off a loss.

    OSU could be a threat in the same way as LSU, but I can't imagine them putting in two teams from the Big10.
    Right. Which is why I wrote originally that the Utah scenario involves LSU and Ohio State unbeaten.
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    The fact that life evolved out of nearly nothing, some 10 billion years after the universe evolved out of literally nothing, is a fact so staggering that I would be mad to attempt words to do it justice.

    --Richard Dawkins

    Be kind to all, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Right. Which is why I wrote originally that the Utah scenario involves LSU and Ohio State unbeaten.
    I think he's mostly fair in his analysis. In one of his recent podcasts he talked about the PAC-12 needing flagship football programs. He mentioned Utah in that role with their fan support, stable coaching staff and consistent rise in the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorcho View Post
    I think he's mostly fair in his analysis. In one of his recent podcasts he talked about the PAC-12 needing flagship football programs. He mentioned Utah in that role with their fan support, stable coaching staff and consistent rise in the league.
    He's fair-ish. I just think his voting criteria are simplistic and not as advanced/logical as he thinks.

    He tweeted this weekend that the Pac-12 needs some homers in the media like the SEC has, but he is apparently unwilling to take on that role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorcho View Post
    I think he's mostly fair in his analysis. In one of his recent podcasts he talked about the PAC-12 needing flagship football programs. He mentioned Utah in that role with their fan support, stable coaching staff and consistent rise in the league.
    His biting approach is weird.

    Especially when he starts using comparative scores but does so in only two games, it looks as if he’s cherry picking games that back up his method


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