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    I think you can trace some of this “Zoobish” type behavior to some norms within the LDS Church. Growing up in the church I was taught that we were NEVER to question our leaders, whether it was our Bishop, EQ President or Young Men’s Leader whatever they said in the capacity of their leadership was unquestioning gospel. The reason given is that they were called of God, and are given personal revelation in accordance with their calling. I think that works well in most religious settings, but is scary dangerous outside of it.

    It seems like Brady Poppinga (or as the kids like to call him ... B-POP), Roger Reid and others take this principle to an extreme. They transfer this principle to other areas in their lives that are closely related to religion. Whether it’s a professor at an LDS Religious Institution, a friendly LDS financial planner/advisor MLM type (with guaranteed 25% annual investment returns), or a head coach of the football team, they view a similar line of LDS Church Authority (when none exists). I think that is why people like B-POP or others are vehemently defending Bronco’s position on coaching decisions or jersey’s, he’s been conditioned to not question those in authority especially when it has any religious correlation.
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    There are lots of weird BYU fans. They roam predominantly on CB and a few on the old CUF but to some of us, this is just a great damn rivalry and I want to beat the shit out of the U...just because. No religion involved. Hell, most of you are Mormon.

    Good luck, but I hope we destroy you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    There are lots of weird BYU fans. They roam predominantly on CB and a few on the old CUF but to some of us, this is just a great damn rivalry and I want to beat the shit out of the U...just because. No religion involved. Hell, most of you are Mormon.

    Good luck, but I hope we destroy you.

    Love,

    Viking
    Agreed about pretty much everything except who wins. And the rivalry is just getting too ugly for my liking, so I suppose I disagree that it's a great damn rivalry and just a damn rivalry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    There are lots of weird BYU fans. They roam predominantly on CB and a few on the old CUF but to some of us, this is just a great damn rivalry and I want to beat the shit out of the U...just because. No religion involved. Hell, most of you are Mormon.

    Good luck, but I hope we destroy you.

    Love,

    Viking
    If the zoobs were all like you I'd say keep the game on the schedule. But I hope we pummel you just the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    There are lots of weird BYU fans. They roam predominantly on CB and a few on the old CUF but to some of us, this is just a great damn rivalry and I want to beat the shit out of the U...just because. No religion involved. Hell, most of you are Mormon.

    Good luck, but I hope we destroy you.

    Love,

    Viking
    Relax, your team always wins, even when Utah scores more points.
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    I come to this thread just to read Utah's posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kccougar View Post
    I come to this thread just to read Utah's posts.
    It is a fun thread.

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    It tickles me that this is still your #1 thread over here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    It tickles me that this is still your #1 thread over here.
    It tickles me that the big 12 expansion thread is #1 on cuf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
    It tickles me that the big 12 expansion thread is #1 on cuf

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    Anything but that godawful Lakers thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post


    Anything but that godawful Lakers thread.
    Isn't the Call of Duty thread a behemoth as well? Big 12, Lakers, and First-Person-Shooter games: seems like both boards enjoy discussing things that have little relation to the home team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    It tickles me that this is still your #1 thread over here.
    I'm not very good with numbers, but I would guess there are 20-30 posts here on other threads for every 1 post on this one.

    I would also guess that you BYU fans are among the top posters on this thread. I suppose I could figure out where your board is, go there, post every day in a thread about herpes,and then point out that the herpes thread is your #1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    I'm not very good with numbers, but I would guess there are 20-30 posts here on other threads for every 1 post on this one.

    I would also guess that you BYU fans are among the top posters on this thread. I suppose I could figure out where your board is, go there, post every day in a thread about herpes,and then point out that the herpes thread is your #1.
    The thread was started by a Ute. But I won't accuse Senioritis of having herpes.
    Last edited by tooblue; 12-18-2013 at 07:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tooblue View Post
    The thread was started by a Ute. But I won't accuse Senioritis of having herpes.
    I wouldn't consider it an accusation anyway. More like a badge of honor.

    This thread is serving its intended purpose perfectly. All of the obsession in one tidy little place. The rest of this glorious board remains uncluttered from tired honor code jokes, the ubershmarm of Captain Bronconi, and the smooth country stylings of the pug nosed Dave Rose.

    And Nate Cooper can die of gonorrhea and roast in hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Senioritis View Post
    I wouldn't consider it an accusation anyway. More like a badge of honor.

    This thread is serving its intended purpose perfectly. All of the obsession in one tidy little place. The rest of this glorious board remains uncluttered from tired honor code jokes, the ubershmarm of Captain Bronconi, and the smooth country stylings of the pug nosed Dave Rose.

    And Nate Cooper can die of gonorrhea and roast in hell.
    I for one am happy that Senioritis threw himself on this grenade by having the stones to start this thread. People may tease about phased shaving and the like, but while many consider him to simply be a Consigliere, Senioritis is in fact not afraid to get his hands dirty, and nothing he does is without its strategy. I for one, thank you, sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
    It tickles me that the big 12 expansion thread is #1 on cuf
    Your post made me curious so I checked. The #1 thread (in terms of # of replies) is the Utah Jazz thread, not the B12 thread. The Lakers thread isn't even in the top 10 anymore (phew).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Your post made me curious so I checked. The #1 thread (in terms of # of replies) is the Utah Jazz thread, not the B12 thread. The Lakers thread isn't even in the top 10 anymore (phew).
    What place is the b12 thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
    What place is the b12 thread?
    Second I believe. The Romney vs Obama thread is right up there. As is the photo thread in the private forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Your post made me curious so I checked. The #1 thread (in terms of # of replies) is the Utah Jazz thread, not the B12 thread. The Lakers thread isn't even in the top 10 anymore (phew).
    Wait, you went to check? I'll accept being tightly wound if you accept being high strung. Or insecure. Your choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Wait, you went to check? I'll accept being tightly wound if you accept being high strung. Or insecure. Your choice.
    Thanks for doubling down. I rest my case.

    MRD is a good friend. I was genuinely curious if the B12 thread was still at #1. I assumed it was. Had no idea the Jazz thread had that many posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    I'm not very good with numbers, but I would guess there are 20-30 posts here on other threads for every 1 post on this one.

    I would also guess that you BYU fans are among the top posters on this thread. I suppose I could figure out where your board is, go there, post every day in a thread about herpes,and then point out that the herpes thread is your #1.
    Sancho, you seem really tightly wound. You are becoming one of my favorites here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    Sancho, you seem really tightly wound. You are becoming one of my favorites here.
    Our BYU brethren will always be hovering nearby to keep us in check. I personally think it is derived from a Home Teaching guilt complex. I do have to say Brother Lebowski, if you are going to stop by, don't you think you should share a message and ask us if you can do anything for us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker Ute View Post
    Our BYU brethren will always be hovering nearby to keep us in check. I personally think it is derived from a Home Teaching guilt complex. I do have to say Brother Lebowski, if you are going to stop by, don't you think you should share a message and ask us if you can do anything for us?
    He could at least bring us some Epic brews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diehard Ute View Post
    He could at least bring us some Epic brews.
    It would be the polite thing to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker Ute View Post
    Our BYU brethren will always be hovering nearby to keep us in check. I personally think it is derived from a Home Teaching guilt complex. I do have to say Brother Lebowski, if you are going to stop by, don't you think you should share a message and ask us if you can do anything for us?
    I am going to wait until the end of the month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    It tickles me that this is still your #1 thread over here.
    Your board needs supervision. Don't you realize what is going on over there? For heaven's sake, man, get back there and take care of matters before something terrible happens!

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    I'm headed down to Tempe, but a quick diversion on the BYU dumpster fire status:

    The dumpster fire rages on, it's melted the vinyl decorative fence around it, the 2x4s that keep it from rolling away are charcoal, and the dumpster is headed down the street toward Tom Holmoe's house.

    - Evidently Brian Logan (their DB of a few years ago) is picking Middle Tennessee, 42-21

    - According to "Monte", a local Utah radio guy, Tom Holmoe held a meeting with the players, and re-iterated his support for Bronco, to which some players expressed great disappointment and a desire to quit football.

    - Tom Holmoe (who I don't really have anything against - I think he's a decent guy) is a SF Giants fan, it appears, and tweeted out about the World Series:

    TH: "Last name Ever, first name Greatest - Madison Bumgarner!" (the Giants great pitcher)

    Random Fan: "Hey Tom, maybe you should be working on your football team"

    TH: "I see you're a Dodgers fan, so I understand your anger"

    Fan: "I'm also a BYU football fan, so now you understand my anger even better!"

    As Bill Cosby would advise, Tom... Tom... Tom... don't lean into the punches!

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    I want to take a moment out of my Stanford victory celebration to congratulate BYU on becoming bowl eligible. Must taste sweet to prove all those doubters wrong.

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    This has been one hell of a season, especially for Ute fans who've been around long enough to remember how utterly frustrating and demeaning it was in the bad old days.

    Not playing BYU this year or next is not just a well-timed break in the rivalry, it gives both fan bases a chance to re-evaluate, a lot of things.

    We're now in a position in this rivalry we previously resented deeply, when the shoe was on the other foot. And it's not just a reversal of fortunes, it's two teams finding what are (increasingly clear) different levels in the CFB landscape.

    Things are changing before our eyes. We're going to have opportunities to be unlike who we resented, previously.

    Look at this post: http://www.cougarboard.com/board/mes...ml?id=13296731

    The Utah tent is getting bigger. I've completely understood Chris Hill's reluctance on stadium expansion. I don't think he ever really considered the need for a bigger tent, from folks we never guessed would be interested in joining.

    The P5 / G5 separation gives these people some cover to give us some support. Not playing them next year gives them more cover.

    How many people go to Colorado Rockies games for no other reason than it's the major leagues?

    Guess what? We're the ML CFB franchise in Utah, with a couple of interesting AAA teams also in the market. The sands in the hourglass are shifting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ma'ake View Post
    This has been one hell of a season, especially for Ute fans who've been around long enough to remember how utterly frustrating and demeaning it was in the bad old days.

    Not playing BYU this year or next is not just a well-timed break in the rivalry, it gives both fan bases a chance to re-evaluate, a lot of things.

    We're now in a position in this rivalry we previously resented deeply, when the shoe was on the other foot. And it's not just a reversal of fortunes, it's two teams finding what are (increasingly clear) different levels in the CFB landscape.

    Things are changing before our eyes. We're going to have opportunities to be unlike who we resented, previously.

    Look at this post: http://www.cougarboard.com/board/mes...ml?id=13296731

    The Utah tent is getting bigger. I've completely understood Chris Hill's reluctance on stadium expansion. I don't think he ever really considered the need for a bigger tent, from folks we never guessed would be interested in joining.

    The P5 / G5 separation gives these people some cover to give us some support. Not playing them next year gives them more cover.

    How many people go to Colorado Rockies games for no other reason than it's the major leagues?

    Guess what? We're the ML CFB franchise in Utah, with a couple of interesting AAA teams also in the market. The sands in the hourglass are shifting.
    Your link enticed me to go to that board. What a place. The poster was excoriated for treating Utah's win over Stanford as comparable in importance to BYU's win over Texas. Wow.

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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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