Last edited by LA Ute; 09-06-2015 at 08:47 PM.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
And this:
It looks like the BYU player sees the miss and the ball bounce in front of him before he rolls into the Nebraska player and ends his season. I hope the BYU guy at least sends his victim flowers in the hospital.
Last edited by LA Ute; 09-09-2015 at 07:13 PM.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
So you guys waltz into the Big House, beat UM, are in the P12 and all you can talk about here is cheap shots from BYU???
You guys need to take a deep breath, heed Devil Dog's advice, and just walk away from this thread.
The confirmation bias involved in posting "cheap shot" videos of one's rival is staggering. "See, there's a VINE showing how dirty BYU plays! I knew they were dirty! They have no conference to regulate their dirty play!" LOL.
Oh, this was interesting. Man, the Utes are cheap shot artists! I knew it!
https://youtu.be/tPsekTY4aR8
In the first one, he wrenches the QB's leg and flips his foot in the air after a full alligator role. Of course, I guess he's just being playful like Paul's playful forearm shiver to the back of the head of the Michigan player. In the second one, why dive at the knee? Why roll on the ground hanging onto the leg, wrenching it while he rolls, when the QB is clearly down on his belly?
I think the bigger issue is, despite beating the fighting Harbaughs and all of the hyperbole surrounding the favoured son's return to Michigan, BYU dominated the headlines for the opening weekend of college football. It's still front page news this morning. No matter what he does, little brother just can't get out from behind the shadow of big brother.
You dominated the headlines after the beach brawl as well. Not all headlines are good when it comes to you guys.
My advice to you big brother is to stop being that loser older brother who has to hang out with his little brother and his friends because your own friends can't stand you. It also doesn't look good on you that your little brother continues to beat your ass at everything that is relevant now a days.
As far as game week pranks go, this one is pretty damn good.
https://twitter.com/dianaallen/statu...46053448974336
lol the big "popular" football player got his feelings hurt. I've got a big brother here too, so I get the dynamic. It's hard when the only thing relevant to happen in the state of Utah or coming from the state of Utah, football wise, were these two things:
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Last edited by tooblue; 09-07-2015 at 09:12 AM.
And I read that Utah banned the Harbaugh bus from being on campus lol:
http://collegespun.com/big-ten/michi...ming-on-campus
This is a Utah sports message board, with a crazy active thread about BYU! Much of the content here is mean spirited, for no other reason than that—to be mean spirited. If I'm a jackass, I'm in damb good company.
And I've said it before. I am a college football fan first. Despite the fact I am bigger BYU fan than Utah fan, I prefer the company of Utes. Generally, Utes are more pleasant and sports knowledgeable, this thread excepted.
Last edited by tooblue; 09-07-2015 at 09:44 AM.
Two questions:
1. Are you really serious thinking either of those tackles are similar? Even so, if there was intent to injure or end the career of an opponent then yes I have a problem with it.
2. Regardless, are you really okay and defending gator rolls and going for opponents knees?
I don't care who it is, when or what I don't like any of that crap. I didn't like when Chris Kemeoatu kicked people in the pile and I sure as hell don't defend that sort of stuff. I don't like when Gionni Paul has a late hit against Mich. QB and not just because it resulted in a new set of downs and a TD, but because I don't like cheap shots. I won't defend Marshall Henderson swinging at Emery, or Drca kicking an opponent either. It all needs to be done away with and is stupid. And doing things that result in game/season/career ending injuries takes it to a new level.
So I just don't get the defense of it by fans or coaches, it is times like that where it is time to step back from your fandom a bit and realize what exactly it is that you are defending.
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The videos are unquestionably equatable. There is no intent to injure on the part of #90, who is already in a half roll, then fully rolls to his belly to get up. If he was really intent on injuring the QB all 280 pounds of him would've done just that. Take your own advice about fandom a bit, and recognize how common the alligator roll is across the board.
I defended the dive at the knees only as being an unfortunate part of football. The sideline official, on the field of play, didn't flag it, so there must have been clarity in his mind that it was a football play. Is it cheap? Arguably, yes. As much as Paul's late hit and fore arm shiver in the Utah game.
These plays happen frequently in every game. Should it be a part of game? I don't think cut blocks should be allowed period, but diving at the knees is what happens, just as your LB in the clip I posted inexplicably, not needing to, dove at the CSU QB's knees ... then rolled and hung on for dear life, even though the QB was clearly on the ground.
But it's your fandom that asserts, if it's my guy it just happens and is "clean." If it's a BYU guy, it's dirty for no other reason than he is a BYU guy.
"It'd be nice to please everyone but I thought it would be more interesting to have a point of view." -- Oscar Levant
Last edited by tooblue; 09-07-2015 at 11:30 AM.
I don't think you are paying attention. LOL, Here you go ... Hey, I'd love to watch the Utah game this week. Is it on tv? Is the vaunted PAC 12 network on Direct tv yet? Of course, along with ALL of America I got the watch the BYU v Nebraska game at 3:30 this past Saturday!
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
Good interview with Tanner Mangum. He talks about his mission etc. For those interested:
He is something of an anomaly. He is the first quarterback to come directly to BYU out of high school since before Max Hall. Max and all his successors went to another school first, then on a mission, then transferred to BYU. Recruiting seems to be improving!
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"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
He and his dad came into work before his mission. He seemed very level headed and not cocky. His dad knew some of the doctors I worked with at the U.