By all accounts he was a good man who lived a big, good life. RIP.Originally Posted by SoCalPat
By all accounts he was a good man who lived a big, good life. RIP.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
RIP Todd. He was a very good man, with a big heart. I saw him on TV a few years ago and it was apparent he was having some health issues.
I think he was waiting for a getting a liver transplant. The radio report was that he was actually on the operating table getting the transplant when he died. Maybe he just ran out of time.
A good reminder to all of us: Be an organ donor.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
Deseret News reported he died shortly after the transplant
We're all about redemption and second chances here. I think I'm on my 5th or 6th second chance myself. Don't tell anyone though. Math is not their strong suit.
Last edited by U-Ute; 11-14-2013 at 09:07 AM.
Sorry, but I'm going to have to report this. !@?##!! sneaky engineers.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
Thanks to Senioritis, my first thought when seeing this news item on KSL was of Nate Cooper. Kind of like your mind would immediately go to Craig James if you heard that 5 hookers had been killed.
Ghonorrhea cases on the rise
The thing that ripped cougaruteforum apart was the Utes getting into the Pac 12. The Pac 12 invited Utah and the next day we wake up and our friends hate us. They are throwing stones at us, breaking our windows and setting our homes on fire. We had to flee to this promised land. For BYU fans at least, this rivalry runs deeper than religion. Take it from me, because they never hated me for my unbelief. And we Ute fans didn't even do anything. We didn't put Utah in the Pac 12 or in any way cause it. I'm glad Chris Hill and Whit and others are trying to kill the rivalry, because it's ugly. I say kill it.
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It was poor form to build a community around the concept of cohabitation and then abruptly change the name and then de facto invite your cohabitants to leave. I wasn't a part of CG and what little I've seen of Waters makes me both respect his blogging ability as well as think he is likely a total basket case in real life (whereas most of us play basket cases online but are real life normal people), so I'm not sure I blame them for ditching CG.
JL and others certainly can't believe their identities are unknown (just as most of us here...it would take even the most casual observer all of a Google search to discover my name, yours, etc) so perhaps they felt some zoobie/bubble peer pressure to cast out the non-zoob, non-bubble inhabitants. I have no idea.
It is a helluva lot more interesting to peruse for random news than CB and I have to believe JL is a really first class guy in real life but it was certainly kind of impish.
I go back and forth about the rivalry. I'd mainly like to stop it because I am tired of losing to Utah and to Whit.
As an aside, there is one guy there who has become a cherished member who is clearly a dupe account playing nice. I think it is Robin's last ditch attempt to be allowed into the uber dork club, or whatever they call the secret post section of the forum. Who knows, maybe he's already succeeded?
Last edited by Viking; 11-15-2013 at 11:40 PM.
Not Roger Waters?
"It'd be nice to please everyone but I thought it would be more interesting to have a point of view." -- Oscar Levant
Hey look at that ... I am able to watch the Utes on tv this week. So, I am watching two back-up QB's play, BYU has already pulled Hill and taken the foot off the gas pedal before the end of the first half and it appears Utah has no choice but to play the former walk-on.
Oh, and who designed Utah's uniforms ... Lululemon?
Poor timing. Maybe you could wait a day or two, and also perhaps try another hobby horse besides TV broadcast availability? This is more reminiscent of cougjunkie than tooblue.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
Get the eff out.
"Don't apologize; it's not your fault. It's my fault for overestimating your competence."
Just saw this post by tooblue. You can call us drunks or any other insult you like, but the moment you wanna say something about our unis..... well do like hostile says and GTFO!
Only a zoob could find superiority in seeing byu beat up one of the worst teams in the country (my high school team, the mighty Jesuit Rangers, could beat ISU) while a PAC12 member Utah loses to one of the best teams in the country.
Don't embarrass us.
This entire thread should be one word: scoreboard.
My comment was merely an observation and more of a lament than anything else. One that BYU was playing a stink pit of a game against Idaho State and two that Utah is the new old Utah. What's more, I'm neither zoob or zoot. I am a huge college football fan first, and though my allegiances are with BYU I watch Utah as much as I can, which isn't often despite the fact they play in the vaunted PAC12. I grew up at RES. It's hard to break a bad habit. I was sending my brother text updates of the game as he was elsewhere watching another family member play D1 basketball in person.
And seriously Viking, drop the butt kissing schtick. Just be yourself. This is a different group. Not as much self-loathing going on here.
Last edited by tooblue; 11-17-2013 at 03:34 PM.
I thought you couldn't get Fox sports 1?
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I upgraded my programming package. My desire to watch games won out.
I hate our all white look in football. It's like we're the groom in a cheesy 70's wedding
All the matters with uniforms is that Utah does what the players want and what has the potential to bring in recruits. It isn't about what fans think of the uniforms.
Oregon shouldn't be a criticism, they should be held up as an example of the right thing to do for their players and recruits.
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The criticism isn't what Oregon is doing with uniforms, but the degree to which they are doing it.
"It'd be nice to please everyone but I thought it would be more interesting to have a point of view." -- Oscar Levant
Harrumph!
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
I'm not familiar with the nuances of recruiting, but are uniform options really a tipping point for a potential recruit? I don't doubt the kids like them, but I always feel like this is a line fed to us to get us to buy more merchandise.
And in that case I think they are forgetting the important 'Rocker Ute' segment. You know, the one that doesn't really give a sh**.
Wally is exactly right. Think of how insufferable byu fans are this year claiming they are a superior team, despite the noteworthy fact that we beat them handily (in their stadium). Can you imagine what will happen when it is just a what-if discussion? No thanks, let's just beat them every year so I don't have to hear any more about masseyratings.com.
You know I think there may be a really different view of this rivalry depending on your religious leanings.
While they're our rival, and I never like to see them do well, not playing them is fine with me. Because I don't have that built in church connection where it will constantly be brought up even if we don't play.
I have co workers who are BYU fans...we rarely even discuss it except during game weeks. Once that week is over, it's over. Seems that isn't the case with many others.
You could be right, because if you are a non-lds ute fan, byu fan will pull back on smack talk significantly in hopes of baptizing you. Then when you are baptized, they will lay into you with the rivalry junk. It is all part of what the lds call "correlation."
I don't understand why we are still talking about BYU. I guess I understand why they care what we are saying though there are several boards for talking about BYU. This is a Utah board.
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― Carl Sagan
Find Wally's post somewhere below. He nails the answer to your question.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
This ought to be interesting for BYU fans...
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — The Fight Hunger Bowl will make history with two female officials this year.
The game between BYU and Washington on Dec. 27 in San Francisco will be called by a crew from Conference USA that includes Sarah Thomas as line judge and Maia Chaka as head linesman.
NCAA national coordinator of officials Rogers Redding says it is the first time two female officials have worked the same FBS game.
Thomas became the first female official in major college football in 2007 and the first to work a bowl game in 2009 at the Little Caesars Bowl.
A Division II game earlier this year between Miles College and Lane had four female officials. That was billed as the first NCAA game with a majority-female officiating crew.
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