And Utah fans are different how? You share the same heritage; the same blood courses through your veins. Utah fans are the mirror image of BYU fans. It comes with the location, wherever you call home—or once called home—along the Wasatch Front. It's remarkable how you fail to see itOriginally Posted by LA Ute
Utah fans viewing winning games as demonstration of how great our way of life is? I can honestly say that has never dawned on me.And Utah fans are different how? You share the same heritage; the same blood courses through your veins. Utah fans are the mirror image of BYU fans. It comes with the location, wherever you call home—or once called home—along the Wasatch Front. It's remarkable how you fail to see it
However, how many times have we heard BYU fans claim BYU athletics are a missionary arm of the church? BYU is unique in this regard and perhaps the only program on earth that believes that. But if true it is the most expensive and least effective missionary too in the history of the church.
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Don't be disingenuous. Of course it has. Otherwise you wouldn't have responded. BYU isn't unique—Utah athletics certainly doesn't mind national media playing up the fact that one, more or several Ute football or basketball players, on any given team, in any given year are returned missionaries?
Seriously.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...n-control.html
He found his "calling" at Utah. I think it's great, and I am proud we share the same blood (figuratively).He consulted three general authorities of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints — President Henry B. Eyring, Elder Jeffrey R. Holland and Elder Cecil O. Samuelson, the BYU president. "Is this a church calling?" he asked them, referring to the offer of the job at BYU. Each assured him it wasn't.
He drove to Provo and toured the campus, trying to get a feel for what he should do. He sought answers in an LDS temple. He visited his father's grave ...
He is religious, but doesn't — in his words — "wear it on my sleeve." He reads scriptures nightly and teaches elders quorum on Sundays after years of teaching the Young Men classes. He speaks at firesides almost monthly, but prefers to let his players have the experience. There are nearly 50 returned LDS missionaries on his team.
Quite a stretch there from what Mark Few said, to Whittingham seeking what he should do spiritually. I've done the same, which doesn't mean my profession is some crusade like BYU fans to prove their way of life. You are just being silly.
I think it cuts because the astute observation came from someone outside of the community and religion.
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well if anyone has a pulse on the University of Utah its clearly going to be a resident of Canada referencing an 8 year old newspaper article
LOL so, Whit is no longer Mormon, and your defensive coordinator isn't a returned missionary. What's more, the Utah football team doesn't hold "tailored" religion classes for football players (at least as of 2015):
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8...l-players.html
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Few's comments were a compliment. Nothing cutting about them. Dave Rose and Mark Few have been good friends for a long time. And that's why this particular segment of this thread is so "revealing."
Last edited by tooblue; 02-04-2017 at 07:43 AM.
You've dodged my comments point. I never said what Few said was an insult (but it also wasn't a compliment) rather the cut comes from someone else realizing that for BYU fans it is more than just a game and so it isn't just irrational BYU haters saying it.
It obviously cuts because you are quickly here to defend it trying to claim that Utah is the same way.
Just to be clear, I have never once thought, nor am I aware of any Utah fan who has thought a Utah win will teach the world about our great way of life. Nor have I thought it might convince someone to join the LDS church despite an LDS coach or numerous LDS players. I have mocked BYUs thinking that way by saying that if athletics is a missionary arm of the church, Utah is doing a better job at it than BYU. That is in terms of respectability, success, sportsmanship and scandal. But that was mostly just to tweak guys like you.
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There aren't anywhere near 50 returned missionaries on the team now. This year's class includes exactly one.
Patrick Kinahan: BYU, Utah look bound for NIT — maybe against each other
If this happens all I can do is laugh.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
Of course it will. This shows that underneath all of the bluster from fans, everyone wants to Utah to play byu.
I do not believe you're this blind.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
Absolutely. Just like the fans of the "School of the Prophets."
We don't rely on sports victories to validate our religious beliefs..?
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Of course you do ... in your superiority, you are superior in every way. Especially, in how you live your "religion" with regards to your sports affiliation. Cause you're certainly not silly like those BYU fans. You live it better. The balance you strike is healthier ;-)
Or rather your sports, especially when Utah beats BYU, validates, or is a “way of showing people how great [the Mormon religion (as you live it as a Utah fan)] is … ” and this thread is almost a sports crusade ...
This is the weirdest argument I've ever seen come from you. I tend to think you are either drinking or off your meds. I don't even think you can look at your posts and sum up what you are talking about.Or rather your sports, especially when Utah beats BYU, validates, or is a “way of showing people how great [the Mormon religion (as you live it as a Utah fan)] is … ” and this thread is almost a sports crusade ...
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No Weirder than this thread, and not that hard to sum up. But oh well. I am terribly disappointed in you though. You missed a golden opportunity to throw out, what should be, your signature line: "tooblue, you're off your rocker."
Last edited by tooblue; 02-04-2017 at 07:36 PM.
Things just got uncomfortable.
Not for the first time, but I have no idea what you are talking about.And Utah fans are different how? You share the same heritage; the same blood courses through your veins. Utah fans are the mirror image of BYU fans. It comes with the location, wherever you call home—or once called home—along the Wasatch Front. It's remarkable how you fail to see it
*Note: This is my first comment in this particular segment of this thread.
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