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  1. 04-08-2017, 09:23 AM #1
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    I don't have a problem with the strike. It might lead to all kinds of other problems, but the images of those kids who were gassed, and the American military response, help counter what appeared to be a rapid decline in American moral leadership, offer a glimmer of hope that America is not going to retreat from the world, altogether.

    McMaster asserting influence in the WH, along with Kushner, at the expense of Bannon (and possibly Priebus) - these are really good signs.

    People who are impressed - or disgusted - by the Syria airstrikes need to remember that Trump really has no ideological framework he believes in (or really, understands). He is completely different than Reagan, in that regard.

    Kushner and Ivanka picking up more power, with more of a centrist political ideology, could help limit the erosion likely to occur under a Bannump presidency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ma'ake View Post
    I don't have a problem with the strike. It might lead to all kinds of other problems, but the images of those kids who were gassed, and the American military response, help counter what appeared to be a rapid decline in American moral leadership, offer a glimmer of hope that America is not going to retreat from the world, altogether.

    McMaster asserting influence in the WH, along with Kushner, at the expense of Bannon (and possibly Priebus) - these are really good signs.

    People who are impressed - or disgusted - by the Syria airstrikes need to remember that Trump really has no ideological framework he believes in (or really, understands). He is completely different than Reagan, in that regard.

    Kushner and Ivanka picking up more power, with more of a centrist political ideology, could help limit the erosion likely to occur under a Bannump presidency.
    I'm actually encouraged by Bannon's demotion. He had no business being on the NSC. He also doesn't know how to negotiate, the one thing I'm sure Trump does understand. If Bannon's star is sinking, even a little bit, that's a good sign.

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    Damn... Watch this. The biased CNN anchor tried to derail this guy and she even featured Hillary... and still...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devildog View Post
    Damn... Watch this. The biased CNN anchor tried to derail this guy and she even featured Hillary... and still...

    Yeah I agree it seems pretty lame to try and turn this into an attack on his Muslim ban with a guy who has nothing to do with it. Regardless of speculations about motivation, or actual damage done etc, I am guessing we won't be seeing any chemical weapons being used again in Syria and no matter your viewpoint that is a very very good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker Ute View Post
    Yeah I agree it seems pretty lame to try and turn this into an attack on his Muslim ban with a guy who has nothing to do with it. Regardless of speculations about motivation, or actual damage done etc, I am guessing we won't be seeing any chemical weapons being used again in Syria and no matter your viewpoint that is a very very good thing.
    I was just thinking about this and it occurred to me that if we had wanted to obliterate that entire airfield, we could have done so. So there was some restraint and strategic thought that went into this. I hope Trump is listening to McMaster. It looks like he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    I was just thinking about this and it occurred to me that if we had wanted to obliterate that entire airfield, we could have done so. So there was some restraint and strategic thought that went into this. I hope Trump is listening to McMaster. It looks like he is.
    Of course he is listening to McMaster, and to Mattis and Dunford. You sound like you are are genuinely surprised. You might not be as intelligent or as correct in your assessments of Trump as you believe you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devildog View Post
    Of course he is listening to McMaster, and to Mattis and Dunford. You sound like you are are genuinely surprised. You might not be as intelligent or as correct in your assessments of Trump as you believe you are.
    When has Trump demonstrated he listens to anyone? That's kind of his calling card isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devildog View Post
    Of course he is listening to McMaster, and to Mattis and Dunford. You sound like you are are genuinely surprised. You might not be as intelligent or as correct in your assessments of Trump as you believe you are.
    Hey, take a compliment for your guy.


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