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Pheidippides
02-20-2013, 06:54 PM
There are some people who find great pleasure in weightlifting. I am not one of them, although I have been known to throw plates on a bar and chalk up my hands.

Others enjoy a dip in the pool for a mile or three. I can manage for a couple of hours but it's more of a chore than it should be.

Cycling is awesome, but my butt hurts after a few miles, and if there's a headwind I'll struggle.

But running - rain, shine, cold, hot, it doesn't matter. There is a zen that comes as your legs turn over for a dozen miles - or maybe even just a couple. Fast or slow, the mind frees and reaches a zen-like state.

I'm sure there have to be others here that enjoy a good run, and every good forum needs a place to talk gear, training, form and races - to share in successes and lament injuries. Let this be the place.

OrangeUte
03-03-2013, 05:35 AM
I have been in and out of running for 5 years now. Because of a back injury when I was younger, I get a lot of sciatic pain. So, lately my runs have been more sporadic and I've been spinning or doing more eliptical workouts. However, about once a week I still run 3-5 miles. My town is an outdoorsman's paradise and for trail running it is amazing. I have run several trails over these last few months and found some amazing waterfalls and seen a lot of wildlife including several bald eagles.

It's time for me to invest in some new trail running shoes. Does anyone have a good solid trail runner that they use. I have been running in a brooks adrenaline gts based shoe but am not a big fan. I over pronate so I need a good stability shoe/motion control.


I need to start running w a camera or phone to take pics of some of the stuff I see.

Virginia Ute
03-03-2013, 10:11 AM
It's time for me to invest in some new trail running shoes. Does anyone have a good solid trail runner that they use. I have been running in a brooks adrenaline gts based shoe but am not a big fan. I over pronate so I need a good stability shoe/motion control.


Running is definitely my workout method of choice. I was a swimmer in HS and got into running in college because I started doing triathlons. Now that I have a lot less free time, I don't really bike or swim much. It's a whole lot easier to jet strap on the running shoes and head out the door.

As far as trail runners to, I bought a pair of Salomons a few years back that I've loved. They are a good, stable shoe, and they look nice, too.

http://www.amazon.com/Salomon-XT-Wings-Running-Autobahn/dp/B0015HZ17E

I guess that That version of the shoe is 2 years old and unavailable, but the current version is probably just as good.

Pheidippides
03-04-2013, 06:27 AM
Running is definitely my workout method of choice. I was a swimmer in HS and got into running in college because I started doing triathlons. Now that I have a lot less free time, I don't really bike or swim much. It's a whole lot easier to jet strap on the running shoes and head out the door.

As far as trail runners to, I bought a pair of Salomons a few years back that I've loved. They are a good, stable shoe, and they look nice, too.

http://www.amazon.com/Salomon-XT-Wings-Running-Autobahn/dp/B0015HZ17E

I guess that That version of the shoe is 2 years old and unavailable, but the current version is probably just as good.

I don't do any true trail running in the sense that you in Utah do, but I've heard good things about Salomon trail shoes.

If you're looking to buy shoes or other running gear, I suggest runningwarehouse.com. They are almost always the cheapest place on the web, their shipping is super quick (I think two day air is standard) and their customer service has been fantastic. They have silly clearance sales and often you can find discount codes for an extra 10% off.

Solon
03-04-2013, 11:44 AM
I don't do any true trail running in the sense that you in Utah do, but I've heard good things about Salomon trail shoes.

If you're looking to buy shoes or other running gear, I suggest runningwarehouse.com. They are almost always the cheapest place on the web, their shipping is super quick (I think two day air is standard) and their customer service has been fantastic. They have silly clearance sales and often you can find discount codes for an extra 10% off.

I've had good luck running trails in Garmont light hiking boots/shoes. They're more of a low-top hiking shoe, but they're lightweight and support my overpronation. For reference, my regular running shoe is an Asics Gel Foundation. So, moderate amount of support required.

Here's what I currently have:
http://www.trailspace.com/gear/garmont/sticky-dragon/

Note the review says it feels more like a running shoe than an approach shoe. Totally agree.
They are boxy in the toe, for which protection I'm grateful on a rocky trail.

They suck as regular hiking-shoes, though, since they leak sand & water like crazy.

UTE FANatic
03-04-2013, 05:11 PM
I'm running in my first 10k this month on the 16th. I started running in December of 2011 and have lost 25 lbs since then, it wasn't easy for me when I started but i stuck with it and I'm definitely addicted now. I use an app on my phone called MapMyRun to track all my distances, it helps keep me motivated. As far as shoes go, I just bought my first pair of actual running shoes, the brand is Saucony, they are light weight and comfortable and the price was decent on Amazon (about $65).

Joe Public
03-04-2013, 06:41 PM
I'm running in my first 10k this month on the 16th. I started running in December of 2011 and have lost 25 lbs since then, it wasn't easy for me when I started but i stuck with it and I'm definitely addicted now. I use an app on my phone called MapMyRun to track all my distances, it helps keep me motivated. As far as shoes go, I just bought my first pair of actual running shoes, the brand is Saucony, they are light weight and comfortable and the price was decent on Amazon (about $65).

I've been in Sauconys for a couple of years now. I've been very happy with them.

Pheidippides
03-04-2013, 07:09 PM
I've been in Sauconys for a couple of years now. I've been very happy with them.

I've tried just about every brand you can think of, and I keep coming back to the Kinvara 3s. I think most of the major brands except Nike have something good to offer.

UteStar
03-04-2013, 07:57 PM
I have been using the Nike Lunarfly for the past couple of years. They also have a Lunarfly Trail running shoe which is lightweight and uber comfortable.

Virginia Ute
03-04-2013, 08:03 PM
I'm running in my first 10k this month on the 16th. I started running in December of 2011 and have lost 25 lbs since then, it wasn't easy for me when I started but i stuck with it and I'm definitely addicted now. I use an app on my phone called MapMyRun to track all my distances, it helps keep me motivated. As far as shoes go, I just bought my first pair of actual running shoes, the brand is Saucony, they are light weight and comfortable and the price was decent on Amazon (about $65).

I used to use MapMyRun, but I've switched over to an app called Strava. It maps your runs as you are doing them using the GPS on the phone and gives you distances and pace. Does the MapMyRun app do that now? At the time I switched over it didn't, which is why I switched.

UTE FANatic
03-05-2013, 12:56 AM
I used to use MapMyRun, but I've switched over to an app called Strava. It maps your runs as you are doing them using the GPS on the phone and gives you distances and pace. Does the MapMyRun app do that now? At the time I switched over it didn't, which is why I switched.

ya thats how MapMyRun is now, it tracks me along my route and drops a little marker each time I run 1k or 1mile (depending on which one I'm tracking). It also has pace stats, calories burned and elevation change stats. At the end of the week they send me an email that lists how many workouts I did that week, and total distance that I ran that week. It's pretty cool, I like it

OrangeUte
03-05-2013, 12:25 PM
i am assuming that those of you using mapmyrun are using iphones or droids. do you have a good armband or case that you use with your phone when you run?

big z
03-05-2013, 12:41 PM
i am assuming that those of you using mapmyrun are using iphones or droids. do you have a good armband or case that you use with your phone when you run?

From what i've seen most bands in the stores are geared towards iPhones or Apple products. I have a HTC One X and have had to get mine off of amazon.

UTE FANatic
03-05-2013, 01:35 PM
i am assuming that those of you using mapmyrun are using iphones or droids. do you have a good armband or case that you use with your phone when you run?

i just put my headphones under my shirt and hold my iPhone in my hand

Pheidippides
03-05-2013, 02:03 PM
i am assuming that those of you using mapmyrun are using iphones or droids. do you have a good armband or case that you use with your phone when you run?

Armpocket and Bluetooth earphones (I think mine are Jabra). Thank me later.

Virginia Ute
03-05-2013, 04:07 PM
i just put my headphones under my shirt and hold my iPhone in my hand

This is what I do too. At some point I'd like to get around to using a carrier sleeve.

Moliere
03-05-2013, 05:42 PM
I stopped listening to music while running.

Pheidippides
03-05-2013, 06:27 PM
I stopped listening to music while running.

I don't race with it anymore, and if I'm with friends I don't listen to it. Marathons especially can be really chatty and fun.

UTE FANatic
03-09-2013, 01:37 AM
I stopped listening to music while running.

I listen to podcasts mostly. The Kickass Life is my favorite

Pheidippides
03-09-2013, 10:37 AM
I listen to podcasts mostly. The Kickass Life is my favorite

I used to do podcasts too. Did almost the entire catalog of Mormon Stories this way.

Virginia Ute
03-09-2013, 11:10 AM
I used to do podcasts too. Did almost the entire catalog of Mormon Stories this way.

I sometimes will listen to audio lectures to study for tests. It's crazy how many random details I run into on tests that I remember exactly where I was running when I learned it. Something about the increased blood flow and increased adrenaline of a run makes the memory more keen.

OrangeUte
03-11-2013, 07:33 AM
Armpocket and Bluetooth earphones (I think mine are Jabra). Thank me later.

Thanks for the advice. Do you have ear hooks on the Bluetooth? I get a lot of slippage from ear buds but haven't ever had any w the hooks so I'm curious if they work well. The Armpocket looks just right so I ordered one. Thanks for the tips.

Pheidippides
03-11-2013, 08:46 AM
Thanks for the advice. Do you have ear hooks on the Bluetooth? I get a lot of slippage from ear buds but haven't ever had any w the hooks so I'm curious if they work well. The Armpocket looks just right so I ordered one. Thanks for the tips.

For these you can have ear hooks, those funky plastic/rubber outer ear insert things (do you know what I'm talking about?) and rubber earbud type inserts, or you can have all three like I do. I've never had a problem with slippage, and the battery life is at least four hours (I haven't gone longer than that without a recharge - it may be 10 for all I know). Plus they will work as a phone through the Bluetooth - I've had phone calls while running before.

Edit: I have the Jaybird Freedoms. Not Jabra. The reviews on Jabra are mixed. I have loved the Jaybirds.

OrangeUte
03-11-2013, 06:39 PM
For these you can have ear hooks, those funky plastic/rubber outer ear insert things (do you know what I'm talking about?) and rubber earbud type inserts, or you can have all three like I do. I've never had a problem with slippage, and the battery life is at least four hours (I haven't gone longer than that without a recharge - it may be 10 for all I know). Plus they will work as a phone through the Bluetooth - I've had phone calls while running before.

Edit: I have the Jaybird Freedoms. Not Jabra. The reviews on Jabra are mixed. I have loved the Jaybirds.

I know exactly what you are talking about. I'm going to get the Jaybirds. Looked at them this morning and also getting the arm strap also. Thanks for the advice.

OrangeUte
03-11-2013, 06:43 PM
btw - i got the i-25 armpocket to fit my iphone 5. i have had several run/mapping apps on my phone for several years now and finally will start using them.

scottie
03-16-2013, 05:21 PM
I've tried just about every brand you can think of, and I keep coming back to the Kinvara 3s. I think most of the major brands except Nike have something good to offer.

I bought some of these today on the recommendation of a friend and remembering you had mentioned them.

Pheidippides
03-16-2013, 05:44 PM
I bought some of these today on the recommendation of a friend and remembering you had mentioned them.

If you haven't done a lot of low drop or minimalist running before break yourself in slowly. They are a minimalist hybrid type, and if you've been in something like the Asics Kinsei or similar until now you'll need time to adjust.

hostile
03-16-2013, 07:19 PM
Canyonlands half marathon today. Finished in 1:57. For not training very much (running weekly at best, longest run in the last 3 months was 7 miles over 3 weeks ago) I was happy with the result. Felt OK at the end, we'll se about tomorrow.

UTE FANatic
03-16-2013, 07:34 PM
Canyonlands half marathon today. Finished in 1:57. For not training very much (running weekly at best, longest run in the last 3 months was 7 miles over 3 weeks ago) I was happy with the result. Felt OK at the end, we'll se about tomorrow.
Good job! I ran the Leprechaun Lope 10k this morning, beautiful day for it. It was my first 10k that I have ever signed up for but I had a great time and I'm not too sore. I ran it in just under an hour

LA Ute
03-16-2013, 07:34 PM
Canyonlands half marathon today. Finished in 1:57. For not training very much (running weekly at best, longest run in the last 3 months was 7 miles over 3 weeks ago) I was happy with the result. Felt OK at the end, we'll se about tomorrow.

Color me impressed. Well done.

Pheidippides
03-17-2013, 10:58 AM
Canyonlands half marathon today. Finished in 1:57. For not training very much (running weekly at best, longest run in the last 3 months was 7 miles over 3 weeks ago) I was happy with the result. Felt OK at the end, we'll se about tomorrow.

My dad ran it too, as did a friend from HS. Sounds like a great race - did you like it (great time btw)?

Joe Public
03-17-2013, 04:41 PM
If you haven't done a lot of low drop or minimalist running before break yourself in slowly. They are a minimalist hybrid type, and if you've been in something like the Asics Kinsei or similar until now you'll need time to adjust.

That's good advice. That being said, I just put them on and went when I got some. I didn't have any problems.


Canyonlands half marathon today. Finished in 1:57. For not training very much (running weekly at best, longest run in the last 3 months was 7 miles over 3 weeks ago) I was happy with the result. Felt OK at the end, we'll se about tomorrow.

Great time, hostile. Is that the one in Moab? I had a friend run that a few years ago; he said it sells out really quickly every year.

hostile
03-17-2013, 06:55 PM
My dad ran it too, as did a friend from HS. Sounds like a great race - did you like it (great time btw)?
From an organization standpoint I think they do a great job. My frame of reference is quite a bit narrower than yours, however. Check-in and race day run pretty smoothly. The course itself isnt too difficult, mostly downhill or flat, following the Colorado river into Moab. The scenery is amazing. This is the second time I have run it and will likely do it again. We had several people from our neighborhood go also. We took our kids and hiked to Delicate Arch after the race. Everyone had a lot of fun.


Great time, hostile. Is that the one in Moab? I had a friend run that a few years ago; he said it sells out really quickly every year.
Yes. They do 2 half marathons every year. Canyonlands in the spring and The Other Half in the fall. Both fill up quickly but we had 7 couples register for either the 5 mile or half marathon and we all got in.

EDIT: Looks like there is a new race, the Thelma and Louise Half Marathon, in June. Not sure what that course is.

FN Phat
03-18-2013, 10:23 AM
Can someone point me to a quality source/website to learn form, technique, planning, workouts, etc. for the big-boned, heavy-structured, clysdesdales of running (or more of a stumble mixed with a jog)? TIA

Solon
03-22-2013, 01:58 PM
Can someone point me to a quality source/website to learn form, technique, planning, workouts, etc. for the big-boned, heavy-structured, clysdesdales of running (or more of a stumble mixed with a jog)? TIA

Hey FN, when I started running, I had good success with Galloway's run-walk method.

http://www.jeffgalloway.com/
http://www.amazon.com/Galloways-Book-Running-Jeff-Galloway/dp/0936070277/ref=la_B000AP8L5G_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363982055&sr=1-2

I'm not much of a short-distance runner; I prefer the distance stuff (1/2 to full marathons), so you might look elsewhere if you're looking for a good strategy to run the 5K.
You probably won't win a lot of distance races with his techniques, but you'll be able to train consistently and maintain a normal life while avoiding injury.

I've modified the program to suit my needs but I still use his basic principles of training and scheduling walk-breaks to "reset" my body during a long-run.

SavaUte
03-22-2013, 02:22 PM
Hey FN, when I started running, I had good success with Galloway's run-walk method.

http://www.jeffgalloway.com/
http://www.amazon.com/Galloways-Book-Running-Jeff-Galloway/dp/0936070277/ref=la_B000AP8L5G_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363982055&sr=1-2

I'm not much of a short-distance runner; I prefer the distance stuff (1/2 to full marathons), so you might look elsewhere if you're looking for a good strategy to run the 5K.
You probably won't win a lot of distance races with his techniques, but you'll be able to train consistently and maintain a normal life while avoiding injury.

I've modified the program to suit my needs but I still use his basic principles of training and scheduling walk-breaks to "reset" my body during a long-run.

Yeah! I've run 3 marathons using the run/walk. For me run a mile walk a minute works well

Pheidippides
03-22-2013, 02:26 PM
Hey FN, when I started running, I had good success with Galloway's run-walk method.

http://www.jeffgalloway.com/
http://www.amazon.com/Galloways-Book-Running-Jeff-Galloway/dp/0936070277/ref=la_B000AP8L5G_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363982055&sr=1-2

I'm not much of a short-distance runner; I prefer the distance stuff (1/2 to full marathons), so you might look elsewhere if you're looking for a good strategy to run the 5K.
You probably won't win a lot of distance races with his techniques, but you'll be able to train consistently and maintain a normal life while avoiding injury.

I've modified the program to suit my needs but I still use his basic principles of training and scheduling walk-breaks to "reset" my body during a long-run.

Ooh, good call! I personally don't use it but my wife has in the past. Great program if injury prevention is your goal and you're not looking to break the sound barrier. I'm considering using it for my upcoming race (althemoreso because I tore my calf on Tuesday).

FN Phat
03-23-2013, 09:01 AM
Thank you, Solon. My goal is to just get healthy while losing weight. I can see a 5k in my foreseeable future. Truthfully, a marathon has always been on my bucket list. It isn't something that I could see me looking forward to but I could see myself stumble through one just to say that I have.

Eddie
04-03-2013, 01:33 PM
Thank you, Solon. My goal is to just get healthy while losing weight. I can see a 5k in my foreseeable future. Truthfully, a marathon has always been on my bucket list. It isn't something that I could see me looking forward to but I could see myself stumble through one just to say that I have.

I remember thinking this once. About 3 marathons ago...