The Quarterback Position 2017

[Carne Asada]

What are your thoughts on the QB position for 2017?

QBs:
Troy Williams
Tyler Huntley
Cooper Bateman
Jason Shelley

Should be very interesting to see what our new QB coach sees in these guys. Charlie Peterson was quick to dismiss Troy Williams as not able to read defenses well enough at the college level. Troy Williams will be a senior next year with a full year of PAC 12 starts under his belt. It's hard to dismiss that kind of experience and he did have some good games.

What I'd like to see is a two-QB system with T. Williams and T. Huntley. The reason being that it is unlikely that either QB can make it through the season without an injury. I think it can be done, especially given that everyone understands Huntley brings more speed and has a different style or role than T. Williams. And I'm just not confident that Troy Williams gives us what we'd need from a QB to win the South Division. I'd rather go 6-6 taking a gamble on an unproven QB that could possibly get us to 10-2 than go 8-4 again with Troy Williams. The offensive line will not be as good this coming season as they were last year, so the QB play is going to need to be much better for us to get to where we want to be.

Cooper Bateman is intriguing although you'd think he could have done more with the playing time he had at Alabama with all the talent around him. If Troy Williams or Tyler Huntley were to get injured during the Fall or early in the season, I'd like to see Cooper Bateman get a shot.

Jason Shelley may be a Connor Manning type player, put up huge numbers in high school but is undersized for a college QB.

[Diehard Ute]

What are your thoughts on the QB position for 2017?

QBs:
Troy Williams
Tyler Huntley
Cooper Bateman
Jason Shelley

Should be very interesting to see what our new QB coach sees in these guys. Charlie Peterson was quick to dismiss Troy Williams as not able to read defenses well enough at the college level. Troy Williams will be a senior next year with a full year of PAC 12 starts under his belt. It's hard to dismiss that kind of experience and he did have some good games.

What I'd like to see is a two-QB system with T. Williams and T. Huntley. The reason being that it is unlikely that either QB can make it through the season without an injury. I think it can be done, especially given that everyone understands Huntley brings more speed and has a different style or role than T. Williams. And I'm just not confident that Troy Williams gives us what we'd need from a QB to win the South Division. I'd rather go 6-6 taking a gamble on an unproven QB that could possibly get us to 10-2 than go 8-4 again with Troy Williams. The offensive line will not be as good this coming season as they were last year, so the QB play is going to need to be much better for us to get to where we want to be.

Cooper Bateman is intriguing although you'd think he could have done more with the playing time he had at Alabama with all the talent around him. If Troy Williams or Tyler Huntley were to get injured during the Fall or early in the season, I'd like to see Cooper Bateman get a shot.

Jason Shelley may be a Connor Manning type player, put up huge numbers in high school but is undersized for a college QB.

Bateman isn't likely going to get much time at QB. Whitt said he'd get a look there, but he's looking more at WR or defense.


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[chrisrenrut]

What are your thoughts on the QB position for 2017?

QBs:
Troy Williams
Tyler Huntley
Cooper Bateman
Jason Shelley

Should be very interesting to see what our new QB coach sees in these guys. Charlie Peterson was quick to dismiss Troy Williams as not able to read defenses well enough at the college level. Troy Williams will be a senior next year with a full year of PAC 12 starts under his belt. It's hard to dismiss that kind of experience and he did have some good games.

What I'd like to see is a two-QB system with T. Williams and T. Huntley. The reason being that it is unlikely that either QB can make it through the season without an injury. I think it can be done, especially given that everyone understands Huntley brings more speed and has a different style or role than T. Williams. And I'm just not confident that Troy Williams gives us what we'd need from a QB to win the South Division. I'd rather go 6-6 taking a gamble on an unproven QB that could possibly get us to 10-2 than go 8-4 again with Troy Williams. The offensive line will not be as good this coming season as they were last year, so the QB play is going to need to be much better for us to get to where we want to be.

Cooper Bateman is intriguing although you'd think he could have done more with the playing time he had at Alabama with all the talent around him. If Troy Williams or Tyler Huntley were to get injured during the Fall or early in the season, I'd like to see Cooper Bateman get a shot.

Jason Shelley may be a Connor Manning type player, put up huge numbers in high school but is undersized for a college QB.

I have heard that Bateman is not really competing for a QB spot, and will be looking to find a spot at WR or defense.

[Carne Asada]

Bateman isn't likely going to get much time at QB. Whitt said he'd get a look there, but he's looking more at WR or defense.


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I don't think Bateman is fast enough to play WR and not physical enough to play on defense. The coaches are likely just saying he's not competing for QB in order to not offend the other QBs.

[Diehard Ute]

I don't think Bateman is fast enough to play WR and not physical enough to play on defense. The coaches are likely just saying he's not competing for QB in order to not offend the other QBs.

He played WR some at Bama. And if you truly think that I don't think you know much about our coaches.


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[Carne Asada]

He played WR some at Bama. And if you truly think that I don't think you know much about our coaches.


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If you truly think Bateman is fast enough to play WR in the PAC 12 I don't think you know much about PAC 12 football. Bateman did not play a single snap at WR during any real game. He's a good athlete, but closer to a TE than WR.

Bateman was Alabama's holder for 3 seasons, I'd like to see him resume those duties here if not starting at QB. The more I look into Bateman, the more I think he is the best QB on our roster.

[SeattleUte]

If you truly think Bateman is fast enough to play WR in the PAC 12 I don't think you know much about PAC 12 football. Bateman did not play a single snap at WR during any real game. He's a good athlete, but closer to a TE than WR.

Bateman was Alabama's holder for 3 seasons, I'd like to see him resume those duties here if not starting at QB. The more I look into Bateman, the more I think he is the best QB on our roster.

I bet he does what he did at Alabama--not play or hold. He's a walk on. And it's a fact of life that hyped Utah natives are overrated. He's a prime example.



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[Utah]

Let's be fair to Bateman. He won the starting job as a QB at Alabama. That is incredible. I don't think we have ever had a QB win the job at a school like Alabama before. To shrug him off as a disappointment...that is a mistake.

[concerned]

Let's be fair to Bateman. He won the starting job as a QB at Alabama. That is incredible. I don't think we have ever had a QB win the job at a school like Alabama before. To shrug him off as a disappointment...that is a mistake.

Well, he played the second half against Middle Tennessee, IIRC, when Coker got pulled. He started the next game against Miss but was pulled for Coker who finished the game. He never started again I don't think.

[SeattleUte]

Alabama is not really quarterback university, not since JWN.

[chrisrenrut]

Oops, wrong thread

[sancho]

Alabama is not really quarterback university, not since JWN.

I'll just be happy to have him, and I'll keep expectations low. If he contributes, great.

[NorthwestUteFan]

Alabama is not really quarterback university, not since JWN.
The most recent QBs from Bama to win NFL games are AJ McCarron winning a regular season game in 2015 and one preseason game in 2016, Jeff Rutledge winning two games in the late 80s, Richard Todd in the early 80s, Ken Stabler (HOF) in the late 70s, and Joe Namath (HOF) in the 60s-70s.

[Utah]

Bateman came to Utah to play QB. It's where he will be in the spring.

If he doesn't win the job, he may move, but he's a QB right now.

[Dwight Schr-Ute]

Bateman isn't likely going to get much time at QB. Whitt said he'd get a look there, but he's looking more at WR or defense.


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Coach said that at a camp during Bateman's senior year, he was the fastest kid there. I just assumed he was a drop back QB like Bama had been using. No wonder WR seems to be an option.

On another note, there's no way I'm willing to give up two wins in '17 for the possibility that it might result in extra wins in '18. I've seen the difference that one at two more losses can make, and I'll always want sure wins now.


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[Ham Hock in Black Beans]

We've had Tommy Grady transfer from Oklahoma and Kendall Thompson transfer from Oklahoma. Oklahoma is far from QB U, but both QBs had some success at the U.

Cooper Bateman's stats at Alabama, although a small sample size, were actually quite good. Very high completion percentage. Troy Williams had some really bad stats in some games last season. At 6'3" 230, Bateman can see over the line, and may actually be a better runner than Troy Williams. I'd redshirt Huntley and play Bateman as QB1 or QB2 while we can.

[SeattleUte]

The most recent QBs from Bama to win NFL games are AJ McCarron winning a regular season game in 2015 and one preseason game in 2016, Jeff Rutledge winning two games in the late 80s, Richard Todd in the early 80s, Ken Stabler (HOF) in the late 70s, and Joe Namath (HOF) in the 60s-70s.

I don't think Stabler is HOF.


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[SeattleUte]

My bad. They put him in there after he died.


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[NorthwestUteFan]

My bad. They put him in there after he died.


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Yes. They need to get a Raider in there somehow.

[NorthwestUteFan]

Coach said that at a camp during Bateman's senior year, he was the fastest kid there. I just assumed he was a drop back QB like Bama had been using. No wonder WR seems to be an option.

On another note, there's no way I'm willing to give up two wins in '17 for the possibility that it might result in extra wins in '18. I've seen the difference that one at two more losses can make, and I'll always want sure wins now.


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4.59 sec 40. Cooper has blazing speed for his size. He was two full steps faster than Jalen Hurts.

[hostile]

4.59 sec 40. Cooper has blazing speed for his size. He was two full steps faster than Jalen Hurts.
Put him at OLB.

[SeattleUte]

Maybe he's the next Tom Brady. Brady never secured sole possession of the Qb position at Michigan until the last seven games of his career.


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[Utah]

Coach said that at a camp during Bateman's senior year, he was the fastest kid there. I just assumed he was a drop back QB like Bama had been using. No wonder WR seems to be an option.

On another note, there's no way I'm willing to give up two wins in '17 for the possibility that it might result in extra wins in '18. I've seen the difference that one at two more losses can make, and I'll always want sure wins now.


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I agree. Those two 5-7 seasons killed our recruiting. Look at our rankings, starting in 2010: 34, 39, 33, 53, 69, 53, 33, 33.

Can you guess what two years we went 5-7 in? Always take the wins today.

[WhoAmISir]

I heard that while Jason Shelley will get a look at QB but that the position he is projected to is WR.

[Applejack]

I heard that while Jason Shelley will get a look at QB but that the position he is projected to is WR.


Really? I hadn't heard that. But it makes sense with our QB pipeline pumping out gold.

[sancho]

Really? I hadn't heard that. But it makes sense with our QB pipeline pumping out gold.

I'm telling y'all, a QB/LB playing both ways is publicity gold (at least until the injury).

[Utah]

I heard that while Jason Shelley will get a look at QB but that the position he is projected to is WR.

I wonder if Shelley will come in, see that he will RS as a QB, then get a chance to play as a WR as a true freshman. Then, after Williams and Bateman graduate/leave, Shelley will go back to QB next year and compete with Huntley and Tuttle for the QB spot, then make a more permanent decision on his future at that time.

[mUUser]

I heard that while Jason Shelley will get a look at QB but that the position he is projected to is WR.


Not saying that it won't happen, as we know players are sometimes moved to 1. where they're needed most, and 2. where they're likely to enjoy the most success, but, this would be news to him.