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Art Vandelay
02-19-2013, 08:27 AM
Congrats on the new board boys. It really looks nice. I hope this becomes the gathering place for intelligent Ute posters...and LAUte.

What is the story behind the name? If the BYU rivalry wasn't dying a slow and certain death, I would have thought "Utah By 3" would have been more apropos. Regardless, I hope this place takes off, and gives Utah (and friendly BYU) fans another option, than the abomination that is ufn.

-AV

OrangeUte
02-19-2013, 08:30 AM
Congrats on the new board boys. It really looks nice. I hope this becomes the gathering place for intelligent Ute posters...and LAUte.

What is the story behind the name? If the BYU rivalry wasn't dying a slow and certain death, I would have thought "Utah By 3" would have been more apropos. Regardless, I hope this place takes off, and gives Utah (and friendly BYU) fans another option, than the abomination that is ufn.

-AV

It is from the 1970s and 80s, a phrase coined by Salt Lake City radio personality Tom Barberi. He was the original "voice of reason". He also was the guy who called Gail Ruzicka and her followers At the Eagle forum Ruzickatistas.

LA Ute
02-19-2013, 10:25 AM
Congrats on the new board boys. It really looks nice. I hope this becomes the gathering place for intelligent Ute posters...and LAUte.

Don't you have someplace else you need to be right now? :mad:

(:o)

wally
02-19-2013, 10:38 AM
Doesn't Tom Barberi's daughter work on the X96 morning show?

yohio
02-19-2013, 10:43 AM
Do you guys have a top secret gang over here? I was promised admission.

LA Ute
02-19-2013, 10:55 AM
Do you guys have a top secret gang over here? I was promised admission.

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GarthUte
02-19-2013, 12:18 PM
Congrats on the new board boys. It really looks nice. I hope this becomes the gathering place for intelligent Ute posters...and LAUte.

What is the story behind the name? If the BYU rivalry wasn't dying a slow and certain death, I would have thought "Utah By 3" would have been more apropos. Regardless, I hope this place takes off, and gives Utah (and friendly BYU) fans another option, than the abomination that is ufn.

-AV

KALL radio was the home of Utah sports before there was a dedicated channel to Utah sports. Tom Barberi, who was the big radio personality on KALL radio who was a Utah fan and would always end his broadcasts with his signature "Utah by 5" prediction for the upcoming game, be it football or basketball. For us longtime Ute fans, it's the perfect name for this board.

HuskyFreeNorthwest
02-19-2013, 12:38 PM
KALL radio was the home of Utah sports before there was a dedicated channel to Utah sports. Tom Barberi, who was the big radio personality on KALL radio who was a Utah fan and would always end his broadcasts with his signature "Utah by 5" prediction for the upcoming game, be it football or basketball. For us longtime Ute fans, it's the perfect name for this board.


This GarthUte guy seems like a tool, I hope IlPad comes here though.

NorthwestUteFan
02-19-2013, 01:52 PM
IIRC it wasn't Tom Barberi, but rather Chris Corey (rip) who coined the phrase. But Barberi made it famous. (Bill Marcroft also had a hand in it having been the first one to announce it during the game broadcast when he heard the crowd chanting 'Utah by Five!', but that account may be apocryphal)

This comes from an advertising campaign on KALL Radio from around 1979 when we were unbelievably bad in what has become the premiere college sport.

In the following years Tom Barberi would answer 'Utah by 5!' whenever anybody asked him for his pick on who would win the game. The name stuck and is cemented in Ute lore forever.

LA Ute
02-19-2013, 02:08 PM
IIRC it wasn't Tom Barberi, but rather Chris Corey (rip) who coined the phrase. But Barberi made it famous. (Bill Marcroft also had a hand in it having been the first one to announce it during the game broadcast when he heard the crowd chanting 'Utah by Five!', but that account may be apocryphal)

This comes from an advertising campaign on KALL Radio from around 1979 when we were unbelievably bad in what has become the premiere college sport.

In the following years Tom Barberi would answer 'Utah by 5!' whenever anybody asked him for his pick on who would win the game. The name stuck and is cemented in Ute lore forever.

I think you are right. I was a senior at the U that year (and starting law school in the fall) and remember it pretty well. Since those were not great days for Utah football it became kind of a rallying cry.

Diehard Ute
02-19-2013, 03:06 PM
Doesn't Tom Barberi's daughter work on the X96 morning show?

Yes, Gina Barberri has been on Radio From Hell for about 15 years or so now. Tom occasionally is on as a guest although its been a while.

Pheidippides
02-19-2013, 03:31 PM
Yes, Gina Barberri has been on Radio From Hell for about 15 years or so now. Tom occasionally is on as a guest although its been a while.

Ah, Radio From Hell! I loved that show. Started off from KJQ (more or less) when I was in HS, and was a morning staple of mine when I was a mail carrier with an early route at BYU. They are still going strong then?

SoCalPat
02-19-2013, 03:37 PM
KALL radio was the home of Utah sports before there was a dedicated channel to Utah sports. Tom Barberi, who was the big radio personality on KALL radio who was a Utah fan and would always end his broadcasts with his signature "Utah by 5" prediction for the upcoming game, be it football or basketball. For us longtime Ute fans, it's the perfect name for this board.

Some would say that KALL/ESPN 700 isn't truly dedicated to Utah sports, what with its full-service format to all things in the state with its hosts. Regardless, Utah's partnership with KALL predates the entireity of the sports-talk radio format. I don't know if anyone's ever done the research on it, but if you told me the U.'s affiliation with one radio station was longer than any other school's in the country, I wouldn't be surprised.

Also, in interviewing Tom for my book, he lent Bill Howard an assist for coming up with the slogan.

As for the board naming sentiments, I couldn't agree more.

kccougar
02-19-2013, 03:38 PM
Ah, Radio From Hell! I loved that show. Started off from KJQ (more or less) when I was in HS, and was a morning staple of mine when I was a mail carrier with an early route at BYU. They are still going strong then?

They are at least going. Honestly, they are awful but they keep cranking away.

Diehard Ute
02-19-2013, 03:48 PM
They are at least going. Honestly, they are awful but they keep cranking away.

If they're not liked by a Coog they're doing a good job ;)

Pheidippides
02-19-2013, 03:54 PM
If they're not liked by a Coog they're doing a good job ;)

On that note, I always thought that it was Bill who was the counterculturalist, but now I think it was Kerry who really pushed and jabbed at the frayed edges of Utah's sanity. I mean, Bill was long haired and profane and all of that, and so you expected it from him, but Kerry was (if memory serves) an RM who ended up playing less of a straight man to Bill's clown (speaking culturally, and not literally) than the orthodox-Mormon community would have liked, what with the mixed drinks and all.

/digression

kccougar
02-19-2013, 04:46 PM
I listened to them too when I was 18. That they are banging the same drums when they are in their 40s/50s/60s?? that they were 20 years ago is tiring to think about, if not a little sad.

Diehard Ute
02-19-2013, 04:59 PM
I listened to them too when I was 18. That they are banging the same drums when they are in their 40s/50s/60s?? that they were 20 years ago is tiring to think about, if not a little sad.

I'd say they've changed quite a bit actually. And they obviously still have "it" as they consistently win the ratings battle.

Certainly better than KSL or the national syndication garbage.

Utah
02-19-2013, 05:02 PM
It might be a good idea to put a summary of this on the top banner for our newer, fellow Utes and all visitors to this page. Give them a little history lesson.

Maybe:

"Utah by 5" - Chris Corey before every Ute football and basketball game.

wally
02-19-2013, 05:32 PM
Do you guys have a top secret gang over here? I was promised admission.

There are now "feats of physical stregth and prowess" requirements for admission to secret clubs. How much can you bench?

cowboy
02-19-2013, 05:33 PM
After reading this thread, I must apologize for calling the name little brotherish in the welcome thread. I assumed the name was a thinly veiled (off by two) shot at the Cougars. I hope I'm still welcome, even thought I'm a BYU/Wyoming fan. Also, I hope that people here will keep the 'living room rule' - never say something to someone on the board that you wouldn't say to their face if you were sitting together in a living room...that, and I'd like to buy the world a Coke.

NorthwestUteFan
02-19-2013, 05:37 PM
After reading this thread, I must apologize for calling the name little brotherish in the welcome thread. I assumed the name was a thinly veiled (off by two) shot at the Cougars. I hope I'm still welcome, even thought I'm a BYU/Wyoming fan. Also, I hope that people here will keep the 'living room rule' - never say something to someone on the board that you wouldn't say to their face if you were sitting together in a living room...that, and I'd like to buy the world a Coke.

That is precisely the intent of this forum. And Welcome, Cowboy!

Clark Addison
02-19-2013, 05:55 PM
I haven't listened to Gina B since Barry King was in town. "The King and Gina". Now THAT was quality radio.

HuskyFreeNorthwest
02-19-2013, 07:21 PM
I haven't listened to Gina B since Barry King was in town. "The King and Gina". Now THAT was quality radio.

What nickname did Barry give you when you called in, "Father of Family X"?

Hadrian
02-19-2013, 08:13 PM
I didn't know about the radio thing. I thought the name had something to do with the chant that the band does at basketball games. When the team is up by multiples of five, the band shouts: "Utah by five! Five wonderful points! Ha ha ha!" If Utah is up by say fifteen points, the band shouts "Utah by five, ten, fifteen! Fifteen wonderful points! Ha ha ha!" and so on. I don't know the origin of this chant or how long it's been used, but I know it happens. Eventually, I'm guessing the student section will probably join in, but as of right now it seems like most of them are pretty new to Utah basketball.

FMCoug
02-19-2013, 10:29 PM
Now that I know the history I think it is a great name. I knew next to nothing about the U until I moved to Utah in 1994 (my first stint).

chrisrenrut
02-19-2013, 10:44 PM
I didn't know about the radio thing. I thought the name had something to do with the chant that the band does at basketball games. When the team is up by multiples of five, the band shouts: "Utah by five! Five wonderful points! Ha ha ha!" If Utah is up by say fifteen points, the band shouts "Utah by five, ten, fifteen! Fifteen wonderful points! Ha ha ha!" and so on. I don't know the origin of this chant or how long it's been used, but I know it happens. Eventually, I'm guessing the student section will probably join in, but as of right now it seems like most of them are pretty new to Utah basketball.

They have been doing it for years. I think it is a riff on The Count from Sesame Street.

The linked video is not of an example, but for a funny video with The Count.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Wd-Q3F8KM&sns=em

The Thrill
02-19-2013, 10:54 PM
Yes, Gina Barberri has been on Radio From Hell for about 15 years or so now. Tom occasionally is on as a guest although its been a while.

Actually they just celebrated 21 years on the radio. That show is older than most MUSS members

Diehard Ute
02-19-2013, 11:45 PM
Actually they just celebrated 21 years on the radio. That show is older than most MUSS members

It was originally just Kerry and Bill. Gina joined about 15 years ago as a producer

NorthwestUteFan
02-20-2013, 07:18 AM
Actually they just celebrated 21 years on the radio. That show is older than most MUSS members
They started as the 'Fun Pigs' in '86 on KJQ. They have now been on KXRK for 21 years.

U-Ute
02-20-2013, 08:28 AM
They started as the 'Fun Pigs' in '86 on KJQ. They have now been on KXRK for 21 years.

Wasn't it Dom and Bill on KJQ?

U-Ute
02-20-2013, 08:29 AM
After reading this thread, I must apologize for calling the name little brotherish in the welcome thread. I assumed the name was a thinly veiled (off by two) shot at the Cougars. I hope I'm still welcome, even thought I'm a BYU/Wyoming fan. Also, I hope that people here will keep the 'living room rule' - never say something to someone on the board that you wouldn't say to their face if you were sitting together in a living room...that, and I'd like to buy the world a Coke.

Corollary: Say anything that bugs YOhio. Anytime. And no Coke for him.

Pheidippides
02-20-2013, 08:46 AM
Actually they just celebrated 21 years on the radio. That show is older than most MUSS members

Damn you for making me feel old.

Applejack
02-20-2013, 08:49 AM
Nice to see YOhio, HFN, and Cowboy over here. Hopefully they will stick around.

LA Ute
02-20-2013, 09:38 AM
Nice to see YOhio, HFN, and Cowboy over here. Hopefully they will stick around.

I hope so too. YO must remember to say "please" and "thank you," however.

GarthUte
02-20-2013, 01:20 PM
Nice to see YOhio, HFN, and Cowboy over here. Hopefully they will stick around.

It's fine that there are Carbon County folks here who are Ute fans. But Carbon County Y fans? Perish the thought.

HuskyFreeNorthwest
02-20-2013, 05:57 PM
Nice to see YOhio, HFN, and Cowboy over here. Hopefully they will stick around.

Thanks, it is nice to be liked!

San Diego Ute Fan
10-09-2013, 01:47 PM
While enjoying my hot pastrami sammich at Ida's B Street Deli today, Bruce Channel's "Hey Baby" played. Wasn't there some kind of protest/controversy about the pep band playing the tune at basketball games back in the day?

LA Ute
10-09-2013, 01:54 PM
While enjoying my hot pastrami sammich at Ida's B Street Deli today, Bruce Channel's "Hey Baby" played. Wasn't there some kind of protest/controversy about the pep band playing the tune at basketball games back in the day?

I remember the song being played, but I don't remember the controversy. Would love to know more.

San Diego Ute Fan
10-09-2013, 01:56 PM
Something about the song being sexist and derogatory toward women. The reaction was almost universally "Wait, What?" IIRC.

Diehard Ute
10-09-2013, 02:26 PM
Something about the song being sexist and derogatory toward women. The reaction was almost universally "Wait, What?" IIRC.

I always chuckle at these arguments...especially in light of songs like "Earl" from the Dixie Chicks getting almost no backlash.

NorthwestUteFan
10-11-2013, 08:28 PM
Something about the song being sexist and derogatory toward women. The reaction was almost universally "Wait, What?" IIRC.

You are probably thinking of the song Black Betty by Ram Jam.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0OFF3q4Pxk

Viking
12-18-2013, 07:43 PM
Can someone enlighten me as to the fallout with Mike waters and the origins of CUF?

I see someone has hijacked my acct over there so I'm interested in what happened.

LA Ute
12-18-2013, 07:58 PM
Can someone enlighten me as to the fallout with Mike waters and the origins of CUF?

I see someone has hijacked my acct over there so I'm interested in what happened.

UtahDan and SU are the guys with the first-hand testimony to offer.

LuckyUte
12-22-2013, 03:01 PM
You are probably thinking of the song Black Betty by Ram Jam.

How many here know that this song was originally an African American prison chain gang song? The below is the Lead Belly version recorded in 1939.

[<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/sYrK464nIeY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>]

Brings a different perspective about the song that many now don't understand.

LuckyUte
12-22-2013, 03:04 PM
Well that embed didn't work.

Here is the link to the youtube page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYrK464nIeY

concerned
12-23-2013, 10:49 AM
so I assumed that the name is a pun on the Barberi saying, b/c the board was started by 5 people who seceded from the cougar/ute site. I assumed they were Utah Dan, Jarid in Cedar, LA Ute, and others. Correct or no?

LA Ute
12-23-2013, 11:00 AM
so I assumed that the name is a pun on the Barberi saying, b/c the board was started by 5 people who seceded from the cougar/ute site. I assumed they were Utah Dan, Jarid in Cedar, LA Ute, and others. Correct or no?

It was all about the Barberi slogan, not the organizers of this site. There was quite a posse involved in the defection, many more than 5. If I start naming names I will inevitably forget someone. Pretty much every regular Ute poster on that board.

Viking
12-24-2013, 12:46 PM
Just an idea…I used to love reading the commentary on CUF. I went there today for the first time in a while and read the reaction Topper is getting pretty obnoxious. Granted, Arch is super over the top in his pessimism but the basic point of his arguments are pretty much spot on. His delivery is the issue. Yet, he's getting the Cougarboard treatment over there.

What made the idea of CUF so great was the idea of a natural check and balance between two rival fan bases where the posters would be civil and thus less potential for Cougarboardish/Utefanish behavior.

I think Utahby5 could become what CUF wanted to be. LAUte sets the perfect tone for this place he could simply run it as an invite-only site. You are a bad actor, you're out. There's enough of a core virtual community amongst the right players that would make this place a really special site to visit. Just a thought from the BYU peanut gallery, aka, new little brother.

Jarid in Cedar
12-24-2013, 04:09 PM
so I assumed that the name is a pun on the Barberi saying, b/c the board was started by 5 people who seceded from the cougar/ute site. I assumed they were Utah Dan, Jarid in Cedar, LA Ute, and others. Correct or no?


I wanted to choose a name that would be uniquely "Utes" in origin. When I suggested the name, it resonated with the founding group, Esp for the generation that remembers the dark ages.