Never again will I choose the Lobos on my bracket

[big z]

If you want to see a dumpster fire, read the threads on lobolair


http://thelobolair.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=5& (http://thelobolair.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=5&)

[SeattleUte]

Here's a tip. ALWAYS pick against the MWC. It's horribly overrated.

http://www.cougarstadium.com/showthread.php?66755-NCAA-Tourney-Thread&p=966123&viewfull=1#post966123

http://www.cougarstadium.com/showthread.php?66755-NCAA-Tourney-Thread&p=966119&viewfull=1#post966119

[SoCalPat]

Here's a tip. ALWAYS pick against the MWC. It's horribly overrated.

http://www.cougarstadium.com/showthread.php?66755-NCAA-Tourney-Thread&p=966123&viewfull=1#post966123

http://www.cougarstadium.com/showthread.php?66755-NCAA-Tourney-Thread&p=966119&viewfull=1#post966119

Just like Dave Winfield was Mr. May in George Steinbrenner's eyes, the MWC is Mr. December in college hoops. I'm through defending that league until it does something in the tournament.

(As soon as I say that, watch Colorado State beat Louisville and destroy half the brackets in the country.)

[mpfunk]

Just like Dave Winfield was Mr. May in George Steinbrenner's eyes, the MWC is Mr. December in college hoops. I'm through defending that league until it does something in the tournament.

(As soon as I say that, watch Colorado State beat Louisville and destroy half the brackets in the country.)

I fell into the trap of saying the MWC deserved respect this year. I will never listen to another complaint from the MWC about not getting respect until they prove something. Look at the Pac-12 this year. They got no respect. The 2nd place team in the league and the conference tournament champ got a 12 seed. It was a huge slight. The Ducks proved they got screwed by going out and dominating a 5 seed. Cal's seed was also a joke and they went out and proved it. I suspect that Arizona will prove that they deserved more than a 6 seed.

[DrumNFeather]

I fell into the trap of saying the MWC deserved respect this year. I will never listen to another complaint from the MWC about not getting respect until they prove something. Look at the Pac-12 this year. They got no respect. The 2nd place team in the league and the conference tournament champ got a 12 seed. It was a huge slight. The Ducks proved they got screwed by going out and dominating a 5 seed. Cal's seed was also a joke and they went out and proved it. I suspect that Arizona will prove that they deserved more than a 6 seed.

I'm interested to see what UCLA does today. They've been the popular upset pick vs. Minnesota...but I bet they come ready to play. And I think the Buffs can beat Illinois as well. 5-0 in the first round would be nice.

[SoCalPat]

I don't know if beating Belmont and then Harvard proves anything. Arizona had some great wins...in 2012. They finished 2-6 in the conference against tournament opposition (with one of those wins on a bad call vs CU). I think a 6 seed was appropriate.

In general, outperforming your seeding doesn't necessarily mean the committee got it wrong.

With Oregon, though, the committee got it wrong, and everyone knew it even before the "upset" yesterday.

Arizona will destroy Harvard. They've got too much size inside and Harvard's M.O. to beat UNM was too simple. I can't believe UNM allowed Harvard to do whatever it wanted offensively. While Arizona does a bad job at defending the 3, which is Harvard's strength, I think for one game with little time in between, that Sean Miller can devise an effective gameplan to limit Harvard's looks from the outside.

[SoCalPat]

I'm interested to see what UCLA does today. They've been the popular upset pick vs. Minnesota...but I bet they come ready to play. And I think the Buffs can beat Illinois as well. 5-0 in the first round would be nice.

On the flip side, I've seen few people on the Illinois bandwagon. It would be so Pac-12 to go 1-1 today, with UCLA winning and CU losing.

[mpfunk]

I'm interested to see what UCLA does today. They've been the popular upset pick vs. Minnesota...but I bet they come ready to play. And I think the Buffs can beat Illinois as well. 5-0 in the first round would be nice.

Biggest concern with UCLA is they are playing a Tubby Smith team. Smith is a fantastic coach and I would always be concerned about his ability to gameplan his team to a win.

[mpfunk]

I think you are going to see more than Arizona beating Harvard. I think they are an elite 8 and potential final 4 team.

[Flystripper]

I don't know if beating Belmont and then Harvard proves anything. Arizona had some great wins...in 2012. They finished 2-6 in the conference against tournament opposition (with one of those wins on a bad call vs CU). I think a 6 seed was appropriate.

In general, outperforming your seeding doesn't necessarily mean the committee got it wrong.

With Oregon, though, the committee got it wrong, and everyone knew it even before the "upset" yesterday.

Yeah Oregon was not seeded correctly. The committee had an issue with both Cal and Oregon I believe on the S curve they were both 11 seeds but because UCLA and Arizona were 6 seeds they had to bump them down to avoid a Pac 12 match-up in the first round. Oregon and Cal both have 5 seeds now so you could make the argument that their seeding is working out well for them. I think their seed is much better than being an 8 or a 9. I guess you could argue that they should have been a 10 seeds and I would not argue it too much.

[LA Ute]

I know there are differing opinions on this, but I am cheering for all the PAC-12 teams to win in the tournament, and enjoying their successes. There's something different about that in the PAC-12, for me at least. I like it.

[SavaUte]

I don't see how UCLA wins without their starting PG. That's not a replaceable position.

Ugh, I forgot about that when I was doing brackets. I'm hosed

[DrumNFeather]

I know there are differing opinions on this, but I am cheering for all the PAC-12 teams to win in the tournament, and enjoying their successes. There's something different about that in the PAC-12, for me at least. I like it.

Totally agree.

[U-Ute]

I'm interested to see what UCLA does today. They've been the popular upset pick vs. Minnesota...but I bet they come ready to play. And I think the Buffs can beat Illinois as well. 5-0 in the first round would be nice.

It depends on which UCLA team shows up. Losing Adams really hurt though. :(

[U-Ute]

I know there are differing opinions on this, but I am cheering for all the PAC-12 teams to win in the tournament, and enjoying their successes. There's something different about that in the PAC-12, for me at least. I like it.

I am with you on this. I'm finding myself rooting for all of the P12 teams.

I guess the honeymoon isn't quite over yet.

[SoCalPat]

I am with you on this. I'm finding myself rooting for all of the P12 teams.

I guess the honeymoon isn't quite over yet.

I was conflicted with Oregon-OSU. The opposite side of my bracket ... err ... family is doused in orange and black. But I also knew that Oregon was the better coached team and highly underrated in seeding. My MIL deserves massive props for observing this on Selection Sunday.

I'm not into the whole Pac-12 Brotherhood thing just yet. I wanted UNLV to beat Cal.

Was glad to see Arizona beat Belmont, although the talking heads and squares sure were on the Belmont bandwagon.

Evidence I'm Buying Into the Pac-12 Brotherhood: I want UCLA to destroy Minnesota and CU likewise against Illinois. If you ever catch me rooting for a Big 10 team against a Pac-12 team, go ahead and revoke my Ute Fan Card right there.

[U-Ute]

They are all in "rootable" matchups. If Arizona were playing a normal 14 seed, I would surely be pulling for the upset. But who cares about snooty Harvard? Oklahoma State? Illinois? UNLV? Minnesota? Belmont is the only first round Pac-12 opponent that you could really cheer for as a Cinderella. I will be pulling for St Louis over Oregon, partly for Majerus, partly for mid-major fun, and partly because I hate the way Dana Altman looked when Oregon beat us.

I admit. I will be conflicted with the SLU/Oregon matchup. I can totally see myself leaning towards SLU.

[LA Ute]

I admit. I will be conflicted with the SLU/Oregon matchup. I can totally see myself leaning towards SLU.

My own PAC-12 love will wane as teams get deeper into their brackets. I mainly want to avoid embarrassments for the conference.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

and partly because I hate the way Dana Altman looked when Oregon beat us.

I missed something I guess, was there something offensive done here?

[SoCalPat]

I missed something I guess, was there something offensive done here?

Yep. Kansas-born and bred Dana Altman got up in our shizz and went all Disco Ritchie McKay on us.

[LA Ute]

I missed something I guess, was there something offensive done here?

Yeah, just look at this. What a jerk!

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In your honor, HFS, I will be cheering for the Quackers. I know you'll do the same when our positions are reversed, if both of us are still alive at that point.

[SeattleUte]

I fell into the trap of saying the MWC deserved respect this year. I will never listen to another complaint from the MWC about not getting respect until they prove something. Look at the Pac-12 this year. They got no respect. The 2nd place team in the league and the conference tournament champ got a 12 seed. It was a huge slight. The Ducks proved they got screwed by going out and dominating a 5 seed. Cal's seed was also a joke and they went out and proved it. I suspect that Arizona will prove that they deserved more than a 6 seed.

What do you mean? It has gotten more respect than it deserved. The MWC's seeds have been ridiculously inflated and it's gotten more invitations than it deserves now for at least two years. You'd think from the seeding the MWC is a lot better conference than the Pac 12. I'm sure there's a conspiracy.

EDIT: Two years in a row now a low seeded Pac 12 team has handled a grossly overseeded UNLV.

[SeattleUte]

Just like Dave Winfield was Mr. May in George Steinbrenner's eyes, the MWC is Mr. December in college hoops. I'm through defending that league until it does something in the tournament.

(As soon as I say that, watch Colorado State beat Louisville and destroy half the brackets in the country.)

I think Eustachy just freakishly understood a Big 12 team after all those seasons there. CSU is going to get dismembered by Louisville. It's going to be messy.

[SeattleUte]

I know there are differing opinions on this, but I am cheering for all the PAC-12 teams to win in the tournament, and enjoying their successes. There's something different about that in the PAC-12, for me at least. I like it.

I normally cheer against the Ducks, but not in this tournament. However, Oregon vs. St. Louis is killing me. I've adopted St. Louis for this tournament and have them losing to G'town in the title game. Oh well, whatever happens in that St. Louis-Oregon game will be bittersweet.

[U-Ute]

http://newmexico.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1486756

Dennis Latta
Loboland.com Editor



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I was wrong.

But I won't be wrong again. It was a lot easier to take when expectations were lower. Losing was acceptable because UNM had almost always lost when it really counted. You didn't have visions of greatness, only to have them dashed. After the pitiful performance UNM put up against a team that doesn't even offer scholarships, I've given up. Having all five starters back next season means nothing on a team that can just disappear like that. I'd be back to wondering when it would collapse, have a terrible game and lose to an inferior team again.

No, I've had it. I've been to my last Lobo basketball game after covering the team for much of the last 33 years.

Good-bye Lobo basketball.


:blink:

[SavaUte]

I'm glad that guy isn't anything related to Utah.

You don't just give up on your team after 33 years

[Flystripper]

wow

[SeattleUte]

I'm glad that guy isn't anything related to Utah.

You don't just give up on your team after 33 years

The two best teams in Lobo history choked in the first round. The other one was Norm Ellenberger's team in 1978 with Michael Cooper and Marvin Johnson (finished 15-1 in the WAC ahead of Vranes/Judkins/Chamber Matheney Utes at 14-2) that lost to Fresno State.

[SavaUte]

The two best teams in Lobo history choked in the first round. The other one was Norm Ellenberger's team in 1978 with Michael Cooper and Marvin Johnson that lost to Fresno State.

I know that NM sucks in the tourney, but to completely turn your back on them after 33 years? That is zoob of the first degree

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

I know that NM sucks in the tourney, but to completely turn your back on them after 33 years? That is zoob of the first degree

:eyeroll:

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

:eyeroll: to your :eyeroll:

You guys say it isn't about BYU, but to bash New Mexico someone has to go Zoob? I'll echo JiC, if you are resorting to Zoob/Yewt you've already lost.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

Yes, an eyeroll is a far better argument. You are making him an offender for a word that is not PC around here. But there's nothing wrong with what he actually said. To turn your back on your team after a loss is poor fandom.

That's why I bolder the silly word.

Thia has already gone 3 posts more from me than it should have, I guess I should have ignored it.

[SavaUte]

That's why I bolder the silly word.

Thia has already gone 3 posts more from me than it should have, I guess I should have ignored it.

I honestly meant nothing about byu when I wrote it. That word obviously started as a byu word, but at least in my vocabulary it has taken on its own meaning.

I guess I should just avoid using it since it doesn't mean what I think it means, or something like that

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[UtahsMrSports]

I honestly meant nothing about byu when I wrote it. That word obviously started as a byu word, but at least in my vocabulary it has taken on its own meaning.

I guess I should just avoid using it since it doesn't mean what I think it means, or something like that

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Im with Sava here.........

The word "zoob" to me means someone who is a) completely over the top in how they view their own team and others or b) someone who is a fair-weather fan to the point that they disappear and tell everyone that they "quit" when times get hard.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

Im with Sava here.........

The word "zoob" to me means someone who is a) completely over the top in how they view their own team and others or b) someone who is a fair-weather fan to the point that they disappear and tell everyone that they "quit" when times get hard.

Like I said I should have just moved on. Lets get back to bashing the Lo0bs.

[Jarid in Cedar]

Im with Sava here.........

The word "zoob" to me means someone who is a) completely over the top in how they view their own team and others or b) someone who is a fair-weather fan to the point that they disappear and tell everyone that they "quit" when times get hard.


The difference between using it as an adjective vs a noun.

[GarthUte]

The difference between using it as an adjective vs a noun.

This post belongs in the grammar thread.