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I think what is happening with KSL is a reflection of what could easily happen with the Church in general. It's the result of sticking to unworthy principles.

Yekaterinburg

No kidding.

People who question my credibility clearly don't know my track record.

I served in Russia with Wally.

I think prop 8 probably had something to do with them realizing this.

What they ought to be doing is calling in all the creepy mormon men who are posting on the ordain women facebook page and...

One woman was already called in to her bishop's office for putting her profile on the site. Apparently the bishop also got a stake president involved, who decided to involve a "regional authority."...

Allowing women to pray in conference = too little, too late

Lol. I was about to post the very same response, and then I saw yours.

Must be genetic.

Heber was hidden away somewhere by the Church. I'm not sure why. Maybe it's kind of like what happened to President Benson.

Did you know that one of the main leaders of Scientology was actually a converted Mormon named Heber? He is also a graduate of the University of Utah.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMHjR2c3K0Q

Not to mention the fact that religion is really just a form of philosophy.

I'm talking about a religion where people genuinely care about facts--an honest religion.

Actually it's pretty far from just majoring in philosophy.

Reality is much, much better than religion. I think Carl Sagan said something to that effect.

If you could start your own religion, what would it be?

My religion would focus on reality. In other words, fairy tales would take a back seat to intellectual inquiry and discussion.

Practical...

I also think Dawkins gets a lot of mileage out of his British accent.

Are nonbelievers allowed to post in the believer thread?

Bringing MikeWaters to this board would easily make utahby5 superior to CougarStadium.

Please put me in your Ute Speakeasy.

Yes, he is a coward--especially because he allows himself to be portrayed as a scientist when he isn't one.

I'm sure Dawkins has called himself a scientist, but even if he hasn't he still allows himself to be portrayed as a scientist instead of as a philosopher.

If he wants to educate people about...

I agree, but writing good books about evolution does not equal scientific discovery. You can't be a scientist without engaging in discovery.

When a historian writes a good book about history,...

You're right, but BYU science professors are generally not only great lecturers but also legitimately trained scientists capable of making and publishing scientific discoveries. There are BYU...

I think it's kind of funny that Dawkins parades around as if he is a great scientist. He is not even really a scientist. He is a lecturer.

Pretty much every single BYU biology professor has...

It's not OK to say that racist statements were "sound advice" just because other people were ignorant or racist even though you and President Kimball supposedly weren't.

This is exactly the kind...

Thanks. I fixed it.