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    Lol. We pay more and get less than everyone else!...

    Lol. We pay more and get less than everyone else! But ours is better!

    It's fantastic.

    And do I hate America? Nope. My family is immigrants. I live a very nice lifestyle here in America.
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    Here's some more antecdotal that has shaped my...

    Here's some more antecdotal that has shaped my opinion.

    A friend lived in Germany. His wife had a hip problem. When they were in the US, she was told to lose weight.

    In Germany, she was...
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    For the cost of a hip replacement in the USA, you...

    For the cost of a hip replacement in the USA, you could move to Spain, get your replacement, live for a year, get another replacement then move back.

    'Merica. The best healthcare in the world,...
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    And yet, every other first world government in...

    And yet, every other first world government in the world provides better, cheaper healthcare.

    Hell, the ACA has reduced costs and bankruptcies. So, our government has done it better.

    Finally,...
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    Single payer. You'd gone through none of that.

    Single payer. You'd gone through none of that.
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    I don't believe Medicare can negotiate drug...

    I don't believe Medicare can negotiate drug prices, which is just stupid. You can't say it isn't working when you won't let it try to work in the first place.

    Let Medicare negotiate drug prices....
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    We keep saying, "who will pay for it?" Yet,...

    We keep saying, "who will pay for it?"

    Yet, we currently pay more for healthcare and get the worst results.

    Why don't we take the money already being spent, and spend it better.

    Yeah,...
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    Couldyou Could you imagine what the country of...

    Couldyou
    Could you imagine what the country of California would be like? It would be fantastic. Good retirement programs, healthcare for all, food would be abundant, great economy...I'd move there...
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    It's It's also why I don't get why Utahns hate...

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    It's also why I don't get why Utahns hate Hatch so much. He bankrolls this state. What happens when he retires and Utah doesn't have SR congressman to keep Hill open? How many times has the fed...
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    Thisisa This is a great article. It's why I...

    Thisisa
    This is a great article.

    It's why I don't like our tax system. The Waltons use the government more than anyone else. They use more roads, they use more police, they use more welfare,...
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    I wasn't going after you and if it came off that...

    I wasn't going after you and if it came off that way, it wasn't my intent. I was just responding to the article you posted.
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    Her take is the typical right's take: Health...

    Her take is the typical right's take:

    Health care is really, really, complicated, and because of that it's really, really expensive...and that's all I have. No ideas, no solutions, just excuses. ...
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    What would happen if the only change we made was...

    What would happen if the only change we made was that insurance companies could not be for profit? What if they had to sink their profits back into their coverage?

    How big of a change would...
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    It'sbecaus It's because in the US, medicine is a...

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    It's because in the US, medicine is a HUGE profit center. The profit margins on medicine are disgusting.

    Elsewhere, most medicine is run as a non profit.

    I'm ok with Dr's making a...
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    I'm going off topic here, but I saw in the...

    I'm going off topic here, but I saw in the Tribune today that Utah has a physician shortage and rank at the bottom of the US in # of Dr's per capita. Yet, Utah has drastically underpaid their Dr's...
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    I lifted this off jazzfanz: We Americans...

    I lifted this off jazzfanz:



    We Americans have been so duped by fear and rhetoric from insurance companies and the uber rich when it comes to healthcare that we have no clue how poor our...
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    I'm 100% convinced our politicians, left and...

    I'm 100% convinced our politicians, left and right, have their hands too deep in their lobbyist's pockets to ever make real change.

    None of them have the balls to do what is right.

    Here is my...
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    What are some cons for "non-profit" insurance...

    What are some cons for "non-profit" insurance companies? I can't seem to find any.
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    ThemoreI The more I look into Germany's...

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    The more I look into Germany's healthcare, the more I like it. No "for profit" insurance companies. Everyone pays about 8% into a sickness fund. If you make over $72,000 (approx) you can...
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