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    The Trojans, the Ducks, the Bruins, and all those guys: The PAC-12 rivals thread

    I think we should have a thread about what we see going on with the other programs in our conference. I will start: Tony Dungy was on the Dan Patrick show this morning. Dan's final question, almost a throwaway, was "Have you been approached by USC?" Tony answered that yes, he had been approached, through his pastor. He said he was not interested but that he's glad to help with names of candidates. I think that's interesting.

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    17-3 Stanford now.

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    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    17-3 Stanford now.

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    Nice. Let's see if their D can keep it up.
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    Stanford scores w/ 1:30 to play and goes up 24-10. Looks like they have recovered from midterms.
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    Stanford scores w/ 1:30 to play and goes up 24-10. Looks like they have recovered from midterms.
    Hahaha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeUte View Post
    Hahaha!
    USC starts with a score against Notre Dame. I wish we had caught Notre Dame early this year.

    Anyone else get the feeling that this is ASU's year in the South? They catch USC at full implosion, they beat Wisconsin on some shady biznass, and they don't have to play Oregon.

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    Looking at Oregon's schedule, they certainly haven't been tested yet. They have some interesting games coming up that will finally show us who they are.

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    I was amazed that WSU put up almost 600 yards against Oregon. There certainly are vulnerabilities in the Duck D.

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    Has there ever been a bigger coaching hire than the one the Huskies just pulled off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Has there ever been a bigger coaching hire than the one the Huskies just pulled off?
    If I were a Huskies fan I'd be thrilled. The PAC-12 continues to upgrade across the board. It's good for Utah. We have to stretch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Has there ever been a bigger coaching hire than the one the Huskies just pulled off?
    Time will tell. Other Boise coaches that parlayed their success to jobs at current PAC 12 schools didn't turn out so well (Koetter at ASU, Hawkins at Colorado).

    I think he will do well, but I'm not sure he can lead them to national prominence. But it's all a guess at this point.

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    NIU lost last night.

    Fitting that in the last year of the BCS, after Utah and TCU are gone and Petersen has left, there is no BCS buster.

    This means Oregon has a shot at a BCS bowl. They say if Texas beats Baylor, the Sugar could pick Oregon to play Auburn.

    It also means that the Pac-12 will probably get all 9 teams to a bowl game, instead of Oregon State missing out as was previously predicted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Has there ever been a bigger coaching hire than the one the Huskies just pulled off?
    Don James.

    I will say that I am happy for the Huskies and look forward to watching CP in this league. I like Sark a lot, but I think UW got the better end of the transaction...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
    Don James.

    I will say that I am happy for the Huskies and look forward to watching CP in this league. I like Sark a lot, but I think UW got the better end of the transaction...
    I'm talking about the bigness of the hire, not actual coaching success.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    I'm talking about the bigness of the hire, not actual coaching success.
    In that case how about one of Don James' former players. Nick Saban played Defensive Back at Kent State under Don James.

    Saban was OK at Michigan State, then absolutely tore it up at LSU, then bombed in the NFL for a few years. His success at Bama is impressive, but he was a BCS Championship winner at rival LSU a few years before.

    So Nick Saban was definitely a higher profile hire than CP. That said, the list of coaching hires that are higher profile than CP to UW is pretty short.

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    40-56 = 71%

    13-18 = 72%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
    40-56 = 71%

    13-18 = 72%
    BOO-YA!

    Hopefully Travis' scales up and translates to the FBS.

    Really, though, Halliday looked good to me. I didn't see his early pick - just his 2nd half domination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    BOO-YA!

    Hopefully Travis' scales up and translates to the FBS.

    Really, though, Halliday looked really good to me. I didn't see his early pick - just his 2nd half domination.
    I also like that TW had over 250 yards in just 18 attempts, versus 500+ in 60 attempts.

    I am not knocking Halliday, I think he is a good qb, but i think his offense males him look better than he is. When you talk qb accuracy, ability, pro potential, etc. Manning is significantly better than Halliday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
    I also like that TW had over 250 yards in just 18 attempts, versus 500+ in 60 attempts.

    I am not knocking Halliday, I think he is a good qb, but i think his offense males him look better than he is. When you talk qb accuracy, ability, pro potential, etc. Manning is significantly better than Halliday.
    Are you talking about Peyton, Eli, or Connor? If Connor, I hope when he transfers that he doesn't choose a Pac-12 school.

    It's apples and oranges to compare Wilson vs ISU to Halliday vs Rutgers. I'm just saying his 2nd half performance was good, and I think WSU is a team for us to worry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Are you talking about Peyton, Eli, or Connor? If Connor, I hope when he transfers that he doesn't choose a Pac-12 school.

    It's apples and oranges to compare Wilson vs ISU to Halliday vs Rutgers. I'm just saying his 2nd half performance was good, and I think WSU is a team for us to worry about.
    Right now, any team that knows how to throw the ball is a team to worry about

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    And by the way, it was weird for Pat Haden to be down on the sideline at all, let alone arguing with the refs.

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    Anyone else wonder why Memphis didn't spike the ball on its last possession?

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    UCLA is looking good against Memphis but less than godlike.

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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
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    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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    UCLA's D looks good, their offense a little sluggish to start.

    Mora was yelling at the UVA ball boy, who just laughed at him and walked away.
    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    UCLA's D looks good, their offense a little sluggish to start.

    Mora was yelling at the UVA ball boy, who just laughed at him and walked away.
    Ucla's D now has 3 first half touchdowns. Their offense, zero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Lunch View Post
    Ucla's D now has 3 first half touchdowns. Their offense, zero.
    They certainly look beatable...maybe not by us, but that ASU game before they get us could be interesting and impact our game against them.
    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    So far Arizona looks very good (okay, I didn't watch their game but they manhandled an FBS opponent that played in a bowl last year with a new QB), Cal is looking good while the arrow seems to be pointing down for Wazzu, CU and UCLA. Stanford, Utah and ASU have all just done what they were supposed to against FCS teams so you can't really pass judgment on any of them. I am looking forward to USC-Fresno St later.

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    Riley did wonders, left, then came back. I think that elevates him a lot as well.

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    Good Grantland Article on the games this week and financial success of the conference.

    Now, just five years after bringing up the rear financially, the Pac-12 hassurpassed the SEC and Big Ten as the richest conference in the land. Earlier this year, the conference reported just shy of $334 million in total revenue for the 2012-13 fiscal year, a 345 percent increase over 2008-09. In television revenue alone, the Pac-12 reported $252.7 million in 2012-13, nearly a threefold increase over the $85.6 million it reported the previous year. The current payout averages $20.8 million per school under the new TV deal, compared with $6 million per school under the old deal, and it will only keep rising.
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    Arizona struggling a bit on the road vs UTSA
    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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