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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
    Don James.

    I will say that I am happy for the Huskies and look forward to watching CP in this league. I like Sark a lot, but I think UW got the better end of the transaction...
    I'm talking about the bigness of the hire, not actual coaching success.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    I'm talking about the bigness of the hire, not actual coaching success.
    In that case how about one of Don James' former players. Nick Saban played Defensive Back at Kent State under Don James.

    Saban was OK at Michigan State, then absolutely tore it up at LSU, then bombed in the NFL for a few years. His success at Bama is impressive, but he was a BCS Championship winner at rival LSU a few years before.

    So Nick Saban was definitely a higher profile hire than CP. That said, the list of coaching hires that are higher profile than CP to UW is pretty short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
    In that case how about one of Don James' former players. Nick Saban played Defensive Back at Kent State under Don James.

    Saban was OK at Michigan State, then absolutely tore it up at LSU, then bombed in the NFL for a few years. His success at Bama is impressive, but he was a BCS Championship winner at rival LSU a few years before.

    So Nick Saban was definitely a higher profile hire than CP. That said, the list of coaching hires that are higher profile than CP to UW is pretty short.

    UM to OSU? Sumlin to A&M? Brett Beilema to Arkansas? Bobby Petrino to Arkansas? Whoever gets hired at Texas next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    UM to OSU? Sumlin to A&M? Brett Beilema to Arkansas? Bobby Petrino to Arkansas? Whoever gets hired at Texas next?
    Yes. That is most of the short list.

    Also add Steve Spurrier to South Carolina.

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    Back to rivalry talk- what PAC12 message boards do you like? I've struggled to find any that I like checking out. Cal has an absolutely putrid one, and I don't like the generic Rivals type boards. CU has one with a lot of soul and fan identity, but those guys are so bad that they don't have much to talk about.
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    Tosh Lupoi being investigated for allegedly paying for private tutoring for a recruit.

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    Tosh Lupoi being investigated for allegedly paying for private tutoring for a recruit.
    Does this surprise anyone? When everyone talked about how he was the best recruiter in the PAC-12, did anyone really believe it was because he knew better jokes, or had that special gleam in his eye? Why do you think SEC teams have better "recruiters" than other conferences? Is their charming southern drawl?

    Nope.

    It's the cash that gets left in the seat cushions when they leave. To believe otherwise is just naive.

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    Interesting piece in the L.A. Times. Bill Paschke is a fine sportswriter and Jim Mora is a fine coach.

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/ucla/l...29-column.html

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    So, I often see Mike Riley on "best coaches" lists. Why is this? I don't doubt that's he's a fine coach, but OSU never finishes very high and sometimes finishes rather low. Why is Riley the only coach in the country who can still get credit with a less than stellar record?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    So, I often see Mike Riley on "best coaches" lists. Why is this? I don't doubt that's he's a fine coach, but OSU never finishes very high and sometimes finishes rather low. Why is Riley the only coach in the country who can still get credit with a less than stellar record?
    Disagree strongly. Riley had a six-year stretch from 2004-09 where OSU finished lower than third all of once. Sure, they've never been to Pasadena, but they've been close.

    In the pre-expansion era, his average league finish was 4th. In the expansion era, his average finish is 4th, and that's facing two Top 10 teams every year.

    Riley has three wins vs. Top 5 teams, and is 5-2 in bowl games. All this despite an athletic budget that ranked 9th in a 10-team league (I suspect OSU is now 10th out of 12) and having Oregon within your state's borders.

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    I love this.

    Cal marks the location of the Hayward fault line that runs through the stadium.

    http://scout.com/college/california/...sset-105674353

    They also give visitors a helpful tip: DO NOT FALL INTO THE FAULT LINE

    HaywardFaultCal.jpg

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    Boise had Wazzu 31-17 with the ball and 6 minutes to go. Ended up losing in OT. Was there a pick 6 involved, you ask? Yes, yes there was.

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    RichRod and Graham are coaching their last seasons in the desert. What about Gary? Is he done at OSU?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    RichRod and Graham are coaching their last seasons in the desert. What about Gary? Is he done at OSU?
    Gary is done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Boise had Wazzu 31-17 with the ball and 6 minutes to go. Ended up losing in OT. Was there a pick 6 involved, you ask? Yes, yes there was.
    Pick 6 AND a fumble on a punt (not by the returner; a blocker).

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    Who does our Pac-12 power rankings?

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    This thread is brilliant.


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    Arizona State schedules H-H with Mississippi State, beginning in 2024, with ASU hosting first.

    https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...d-home-series/

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    I wonder what Jack Sears is thinking now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by U-Ute View Post
    I wonder what Jack Sears is thinking now.
    "Where can i transfer to, and when do I have to leave by to keep my eligibility"

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    UW shoots themselves in the feet one too many times, and a crucial missed targeting call in the 4th quarter seals the deal. Would have been nice to have a 2-0 UW in SLC in two weeks.

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    Who here expects Washington to look a lot better this week? I do. Petersen is a good coach. He isn't used to playing good teams every week. I'd put money down, that he spent the last month prepping for Illinois 1/3rd of the time and Stanford for 2/3rd of the time. It wouldn't even surprise me if he didn't even look at the last two teams more than a passing glance. I think Washington comes out and looks great this week, wins next week, and gives Stanford all they can handle.

    I said before the year began, that it wouldn't shock me to see Stanford sitting at 2-2 after the Washington game. That game will be for second place in the North.

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    OK, maybe not for second place. Washington does luck out in that they don't play us, so maybe it's not for second place.

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    USC in trouble against BC, down by 10 in the third.
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    USC in trouble against BC, down by 10 in the third.
    Ucla/Texas is a game featuring zero offenses. Ucla's qb is currently Rick neuheisals kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Applejack View Post
    Ucla/Texas is a game featuring zero offenses. Ucla's qb is currently Rick neuheisals kid.
    What happened to Hundley? I feel like I missed something....(in a meeting right now).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Applejack View Post
    Ucla/Texas is a game featuring zero offenses. Ucla's qb is currently Rick neuheisals kid.
    Neuheisel trying to drive the Bruins for a go ahead score. USC goes down by 2 scores with 3:30 to go.

    EDIT: UCLA fumbles, Texas recovers.
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    Rosen Living A Dream

    http://ucla.scout.com/story/1470971-...living-a-dream

    “The reason I love UCLA so much is because I want to win for a school that isn’t used to winning,” said Rosen.
    Ouch.


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    So who do we want to win this week in the PAC-12 (I would include other games in the Top 25 but I don't think it matters much, if we win we move up if we lose then we don't.)

    Friday, October 24 2014

    #6 Oregon @ California*
    10:00 PM ET FOX SPORTS 1- Neutral site game at Levi Stadium. My guess is Oregon rolls. I want to see Oregon do well since it makes the Pac-12 look better. If anyone is going to upset Oregon it better be Utah
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    #25 UCLA @ Colorad 2:00 PM ET P12N - I would love to see Colorado beat UCLA because it would help us in the South standings. Some will say that it makes our win against UCLA look worse, but if we beat USC that won't matter. Not to mention we will have plenty of times to prove ourselves with our upcoming schedule.

    Oregon State @ Stanford 3:30 ET ESPN2 - This is a toss-up I'm going to go with Oregon State here.

    #15 Arizona @ WSU 6:00 ET P12N - Easy one here, need Arizona to lose to improve our South standings and a WSU win would help justify us losing to WSU a bit...kinda?

    #14 ASU @ Wasington
    10:45 ET ESPN - Would like to see Washington beat ASU. Helps with our pac 12 south standings. Also I hate the Desert Zoobs. Would be nice for them to be recovering from a loss when we play them next week. Strangely I picked them in the survivor pool though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmaUte View Post
    So who do we want to win this week in the PAC-12 (I would include other games in the Top 25 but I don't think it matters much, if we win we move up if we lose then we don't.)

    #25 UCLA @ Colorad
    2:00 PM ET P12N - I would love to see Colorado beat UCLA because it would help us in the South standings. Some will say that it makes our win against UCLA look worse, but if we beat USC that won't matter. Not to mention we will have plenty of times to prove ourselves with our upcoming schedule.
    I like your reasoning, but I also don't mind at all if CU is 0-8 when we see them in Boulder.

    Oregon State @ Stanford 3:30 ET ESPN2 - This is a toss-up I'm going to go with Oregon State here.
    Are you serious? This is not a hard choice. We lose 1-2 guys every year to Stanford. We want them to return to the bottom of the conference where they belong.

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