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  1. #931
    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    Puhhleeaze. We paid Bronco more than $1mm per year in the president's circle. Do you ready believe we don't have the money to pay a great coach??!!
    The local media doesn't seem to believe it. I think it was Jay Drew that estimated Bronco's salary as being between 1.1 and 1.5 mil.
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  2. #932
    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    Better negotiator. Keep expectations low. Hell, I'm not even a Mormon and I have 50 yard line tickets
    You are still Mormon enough to know that $$$ speak, über alles.

    You can buy anything you want in this world, for money...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
    You are still Mormon enough to know that $$$ speak, über alles.
    That's not Mormon, that's life.

    Someone, who is beyond excitable as a cougar fan, called me to say that Sitake was hired today. I have no idea; not a Mormon anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    Puhhleeaze. We paid Bronco more than $1mm per year in the president's circle. Do you ready believe we don't have the money to pay a great coach??!!
    Yes. This notion -- that Mormon Daddy Warbucks types are secretly pooling their resources to pay the BYU coaches a king's ransom -- is right up there with the secret TV viewership data I've always heard about, showing what a huuuuge draw BYU is whenever it plays on TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    That's not Mormon, that's life.

    Someone, who is beyond excitable as a cougar fan, called me to say that Sitake was hired today. I have no idea; not a Mormon anymore
    You are CougarFan enough to know who Sitake is and why you should be excited about him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    Puhhleeaze. We paid Bronco more than $1mm per year in the president's circle. Do you ready believe we don't have the money to pay a great coach??!!
    That was money well spent. Did you put it on your AMEX Black Card? You should have ponied up another million to keep Bronco around.
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  7. #937
    Quote Originally Posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
    That was money well spent. Did you put it on your AMEX Black Card? You should have ponied up another million to keep Bronco around.
    You're an idiot. I never said it was my black card. I would never pay the fees of a black card when a platinum has most of the de facto benefits. Keep trying, ute

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    Those of us who have an Amex spell it as "Amex", not "AMEX"

  9. #939
    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    Those of us who have an Amex spell it as "Amex", not "AMEX"
    Is American Express still a status symbol? That seems very eighties to me.
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  10. #940
    Quote Originally Posted by SoCalPat View Post
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    If you're looking for "our Lavell", then you're right.

    I'm not against having another Urban in SLC. Two years of that kind of coach (and he'd stick around for more, because the Pac-12>>>>>> MWC) can get you a Rose Bowl or a spot in the playoff. Maybe a national title. I think our fans take those opportunities for granted. Ask Cal, Oregon State or Arizona what they would do for such a game-changer.

    We are a huge underdog to reach the heights in the next five years that we reached (and subsequently fell from) this year. Then again, if Mike Price can get Wazzu to the Rose Bowl twice, why can't Kyle (that's a trick question, don't answer it -- you should already know the answer)?
    I've got an idea. Let's fire Kyle and go hire us the next Urban Meyer, whoever that may be. That's the ticket. No sweat. And if he stays just two years, that's cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Is American Express still a status symbol? That seems very eighties to me.
    Which is where most BYU fans live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    I've got an idea. Let's fire Kyle and go hire us the next Urban Meyer, whoever that may be. That's the ticket. No sweat. And if he stays just two years, that's cool.
    You realize that's nowhere close to the tack I was suggesting, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCalPat View Post
    You realize that's nowhere close to the tack I was suggesting, right?
    SU is a self-hating Ute fan. Cut him some slack.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCalPat View Post
    You realize that's nowhere close to the tack I was suggesting, right?
    Your irony is less subtle than mine. I just wanted to make sure everyone got your point.
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    If Kyle Whittingham is more disgusted with how this season turned out than anyone out there, I have hope he'll get the offense thing figured out.

    The defense we've had the last two years is what you expect out of a team that makes a playoff, and perhaps wins a national championship. It's also one reason why Kyle should remain our head coach for a long time. One day, and probably by happenstance more than anything else, the offense will be there, and with a top 20 defense that rates top 5 in turnovers forced, we'll have our magical season that generations will remember fondly.

    Until he gets the offense figured out, he's always going to come under fire and it will be justifiable. As has been noted countless times, Kyle is the lone common denominator in the struggles of the offense. Hiring Erickson brought about a modest initial improvement, but even with a multi-year starter at QB, we could not build on that. That falls squarely on Kyle and no one else. Almost as frustrating as the offense's struggles is that the same story can be written about Utah football almost every year. Gary Patterson figured it out; there's no reason Kyle can't do likewise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCalPat View Post
    If Kyle Whittingham is more disgusted with how this season turned out than anyone out there, I have hope he'll get the offense thing figured out.

    The defense we've had the last two years is what you expect out of a team that makes a playoff, and perhaps wins a national championship. It's also one reason why Kyle should remain our head coach for a long time. One day, and probably by happenstance more than anything else, the offense will be there, and with a top 20 defense that rates top 5 in turnovers forced, we'll have our magical season that generations will remember fondly.

    Until he gets the offense figured out, he's always going to come under fire and it will be justifiable. As has been noted countless times, Kyle is the lone common denominator in the struggles of the offense. Hiring Erickson brought about a modest initial improvement, but even with a multi-year starter at QB, we could not build on that. That falls squarely on Kyle and no one else. Almost as frustrating as the offense's struggles is that the same story can be written about Utah football almost every year. Gary Patterson figured it out; there's no reason Kyle can't do likewise.
    I was ridiculed for saying essentially he same thing (although not as well). I hope Kyle has a few productive sleepless nights figuring out how he's going to fix the offense.


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  17. #947
    When Kyle retires (god forbid) who do we look to? Scalley, sitake, g Anderson, Brian Johnson? I'm watching the chargers game right now and Mike McCoy looks pretty good. Of course, he probably has bigger plans, but it would be good to have a Ute as coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Applejack View Post
    When Kyle retires (god forbid) who do we look to? Scalley, sitake, g Anderson, Brian Johnson? I'm watching the chargers game right now and Mike McCoy looks pretty good. Of course, he probably has bigger plans, but it would be good to have a Ute as coach.
    That's the staff right there. They can take turns being in charge, or we can have a lot of co-coordinators.

    I hope Kyle sticks around as long as Beamer, Snyder, Edwards, etc.

  19. #949
    Mike McCoy would be great. I can't imagine he will leave the NFL unless the Chargers severely screw up, or if he somehow bombs the next several seasons. Still, I think he had to be the first call.

    The truth is the U will have a lot of money to play with and it isn't out of the question that we should be able to offer $3.5M+ to the right coach. The talent pool should be impressive, and there may or may not be any qualified candidates who are Utah grads.

  20. #950
    I'm glad Whitt isn't leaving any time soon. It would be interesting to see if Gary can turn OSU around. Or how Kalani does at BYU. I know BYU fans say he loves BYU and BYU is a destination job, but after some of his recruits get hurt and if he was offered three times as much money...and didn't have to move, we'd see how loyal he is to BYU.

  21. #951
    Quote Originally Posted by Applejack View Post
    When Kyle retires (god forbid) who do we look to? Scalley, sitake, g Anderson, Brian Johnson? I'm watching the chargers game right now and Mike McCoy looks pretty good. Of course, he probably has bigger plans, but it would be good to have a Ute as coach.
    Kyle is not pleased with you bringing up his retirement...

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  22. #952
    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    Kyle is not pleased with you bringing up his retirement...

    kylw.jpg
    Hey, I am in favor of Sancho's lifetime contract dealio. I'm just preparing for the future. NEXT MAN UP.

  23. #953
    Quote Originally Posted by Applejack View Post
    Hey, I am in favor of Sancho's lifetime contract dealio. I'm just preparing for the future. NEXT MAN UP.
    Welcome to the club! Now we are three.

  24. #954
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
    Mike McCoy would be great. I can't imagine he will leave the NFL unless the Chargers severely screw up, or if he somehow bombs the next several seasons. Still, I think he had to be the first call.

    The truth is the U will have a lot of money to play with and it isn't out of the question that we should be able to offer $3.5M+ to the right coach. The talent pool should be impressive, and there may or may not be any qualified candidates who are Utah grads.
    Good thing we only aim for BYU grads.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    Kyle is not pleased with you bringing up his retirement...

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    KW is a great coach. This might sound like smack at Utah but it isn't intended that way, I'm really glad USC didn't see that and make a run at him. The consistent talent that USC can get with a coach of that caliber would be very problematic for the rest of the teams in the P12.

    On top of his coaching prowess he has another intangible of a great coach, does just enough to tweak other fans to where they don't like him. I loved Chip as much for his coaching ability as his ability to draw this disdain of other fans. I am sure there are nice guy coaches that everyone loves, but anyone that comes to my mind right now has a lot of people that hate them. Saban, Urban, Harbaugh, Bob Stoops all currently come to mind as the best coaches in the game.

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    I've said it a million times, but if Whitt went to USC, he'd be as good as Pete Carroll, if not better. His defense WITH an offense? Whoa baby.

  27. #957
    Quote Originally Posted by Utah View Post
    I've said it a million times, but if Whitt went to USC, he'd be as good as Pete Carroll, if not better. His defense WITH an offense? Whoa baby.
    I am glad he stayed at Utah. And I am even happier that USC fans and supporters big-timed Whitt and didn't look too seriously his direction. Whitt with USC recruits would have been devastating to the rest of the conference.

    Maybe our next hire out of byu will be Mike Leach.

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    Kyle is the only one I know of that can look intimidating in bifocals.

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    Kyle Whittingham: 8-3 in the Deseret Duel, 4-1 in the Rumble in the Rockies.

  30. #960
    Quote Originally Posted by Redbird View Post
    Kyle Whittingham: 8-3 in the Deseret Duel, 4-1 in the Rumble in the Rockies.
    97 wins too!

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