Common opponent rundown:
ASU. Both lost. CU lost by 14.
OSU. Utes won in OT. Buffs lost by 5.
USC. Utes won a close one. Buffs lost by 4 TDs.
UCLA. Utes won a close one. Buffs lost in 2OT.
Zona. Utes got clobbered. Buffs kept it close (down 4 in the 4th) most of the way but lost by 18.
Oregon. We both lost by a lot of points, but the Utes kept it close until the 4th.
I watched the football in 60 replay last night. Utah was in a position to cut the lead to 3 (21-17) with a third and 3 inside the 30 -- this, despite just having a punt return for a TD called back by a penalty. At that point, the 3rd quarter ended, and the weather worsened as the 4th began. a bad snap led to a sack taking Utah out of field goal range. On the previous Arizona possession, Hunter Dimick went out with an injury and did not return. Next Wildcat possession saw a long run by Wilson up the middle for a touchdown. Next Utah possession ended with an INT off a tipped ball, which was followed by another Wilson TD on a run up the middle. Utah changes QBs, and Mannion throws a pick six.Zona. Utes got clobbered. Buffs kept it close (down 4 in the 4th) most of the way but lost by 18.
The wheels came off big time in the 4th quarter, and Utah was struggling early, but for a moment, at least, Utah was threatening to get back into the game.
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I think the air started coming out of the balloon with the holding call on Clay's runback.
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True, but the offense still had a nice drive going until the bad snap and sack.Originally Posted by LA Ute
"It'd be nice to please everyone but I thought it would be more interesting to have a point of view." -- Oscar Levant
Yes, that play was a killer for momentum. We needed points on that drive. We had two drives where we were in FG range and game away with nothing.
Yeah, that was the final nail.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
Nice breakdown. Unfortunately, it made me feel worse about our chances on Saturday. Hopefully the power of the lucky button has regenerated since last times it was at a game.
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Colorado won't be easy, especially now, especially on Senior Day for some gutty kids who stuck through some crappy times.
I saw we should let it out on offense. Just go for it. Our defense is good enough to bail us out in most scenarios vs CU, and we simply *have* to get better offensively, or we're looking at a 3 game skid to end the year.
Have fun, guys, it's time to get back to fun football, especially on the offensive side.
Yeah, nobody lays an egg on Senior Day.
Oh, wait!
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-- Flavius Philostratus, Life of Apollonius 1.35.2.
I kind of agree. Throw the ball down field and challenge your WRS to be play makers.
“It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”
Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
I just saw that Adam Schulz is in competition with Manning for the backup spot. That is disheartening.
Where did you see that?
I still believe that they should've pulled Manning or Cox's redshirt last year instead of starting Shultz.
“It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”
Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8...-Saturday.html
schulz in the mix: whittingham said thattravis wilson looked very sharp in practice tuesday and said “it looks that way” when asked if he’ll start saturday against colorado — although he added that nothing is set in stone. As for the backup spot, junioradam schulz is battling redshirt freshman conner manning for the job this week. Whittingham said redshirt freshman brandon cox is behind them.schulz, who started three games last season, has yet to take a snap in 2014.
“all he’s done all season long is work and prepare and do what he can to help us,” whittingham said.
From my daily dose of the DezNewz: http://www.deseretnews.com/article/8...-Saturday.html
Whittingham said thatTravis Wilson looked very sharp in practice Tuesday and said “it looks that way” when asked if he’ll start Saturday against Colorado — although he added that nothing is set in stone. As for the backup spot, juniorAdam Schulz is battling redshirt freshman Conner Manning for the job this week. Whittingham said redshirt freshman Brandon Cox is behind them.Schulz, who started three games last season, has yet to take a snap in 2014.
“All he’s done all season long is work and prepare and do what he can to help us,” Whittingham said.
Maybe one or both of those guys is looking at a transfer. Here comes the Isom era!
“It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”
Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
End of year assessment:
Utah is once again in a difficult situation. DC has done nothing to make anyone think he is the answer for our offense. I mean, the offense is as bad as it's ever been. But we can't bring in yet another OC, right? So we just move forward with a guy we don't believe in, hoping an extra year will somehow make a difference.
How would we feel if DC weren't back next year? Embarrassed to need our 7th (or is it 8th? I can't keep track anymore) OC in about as many years? Yes. Excited that the new guy might make something happen? Yes. What about if he stays? Who's feeling hopeful? All my hope would basically ride in Donovan Isom and/or Chase Hansen plus a couple JUCO WRs. The idea of continuity in system is really enticing, but there has to be something attractive about the system in question. We've not even seen a glimpse of a system worth developing.
So what is the answer? We've tried the new OC route so many times that I guess it's time to try the stick with your OC route.
Don't forget about Chad Hekking!
The Arizona game really forced you off the bus, Sancho. Look, that game was a true poo-fire, but it didn't reveal anything new about our Utes.
(1) We have a terrible, terrible offense. It is partly the lack of an adequate QB, partly the result of poor receivers (plus an injury to Dres), partly the result of a mediocre Offensive line, partly the result of crappy coaching.
(2) We have a really great defense, but it's not super deep. We played the second half of the Arizona game without 3 of our best 5 defenders (Dimick, Carter, Gionni). Our backups are always going to be a step down.
(3) We have some sweet specialists!
Now, I'm agnostic about DC. I don't think he's very good, because I've watched some really crappy offensive football this year. But I'm also pretty sure that whoever we bring in won't be much better because I've watched some really crappy offensive football over the past seven years. Personally, I'd let the kids choose. If they really hate DC, he's gone. If they live and die by him, I keep him. Is he a recruiter? I haven't heard him bringing in too many big names.
What's Brian Johnson up to?
I'm just going to throw this out there...
What are the chances that DC goes to Kyle at season's end and says "I can get this offense humming with Jason Thompson (QB he brought with him from Wyoming)? I mean, the kid is a junior, so he's got two years as the starter. If DC makes it an open competition between TW, KT, and his boy from Wyoming, along with the freshmen, it's hard for me to imagine his boy doesn't win the job.
“It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”
Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
Oh how quickly we forget. Doesnt DC get tons of credit for the qb/safety he brought from Wyoming? man I hope that guy stays even if DC leaves.
If he does a mullet like his brother, he should get the starting nod. I don't care if he stinks; I'm used to that at QB anyway. The mullet would be a great attention-getter for the team. Good or bad, he would be front page news and a Twitter trend waiting to happen.
I like your plan. Let the players decide. I hate that we lost Dres. I just knew that was going to hurt. Patrick was pretty good, too.
Crabapple, it isn't the personnel so much as the coaching. Look at Washington State. They throw for 400-800 yards win or lose. Their record setting quarterback suffers a season ending injury and a new guy comes in and is as good. It's a matter of will and priorities, like with our defense. WSU's personnel is about the same as ours. I heard a Washington coach on the radio describe their system which he labeled bizarre but very effective. Where's our offensive system, our scheme, our philosophy, our ideology?
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Washington State is averaging 33.5 points and 530.4 yards per game -- since their original starting quarterback was injured.
Don't tell me we're doing the best we can on offense with our personnel.
One thing I have learned in a long life: that all our science, measured against reality, is primitive and childlike -- and yet it is the most precious thing we have.
--Albert Einstein
The fact that life evolved out of nearly nothing, some 10 billion years after the universe evolved out of literally nothing, is a fact so staggering that I would be mad to attempt words to do it justice.
--Richard Dawkins
Be kind to all, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.
--Philo
They're also 3-8.
“It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”
Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
Is dave Christensen actively trying to get fired so he has some severance money while looking for a job?
Playing a walk on when we have 4 scholarship players?? Wtf is going on?
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WSU isn't 3-8 because of their offense.
There are zero valid reasons why we can't seem to find an offense that works, and to train our players to be more effective. I have to wonder if Mike Leach and Rich Rod just use better drills and are more effective at teaching their QBs the reads and decision points.
But then I look at UW and Chris Petersen. He has better players at every position, and is deeper at every position, than he has ever had. I appreciated watching the offense he had at Boise State, especially under Kellen Moore. But that absolutely has not translated to success at UW. Perhaps that will change with a few years of time in the program. Hopefully his wtf decisions won't get him fired before then.
Offense is only one part of the game. I'm addressing only that aspect. Obviously, we could have a better offense with our personnel. That's all I'm saying.
One thing I have learned in a long life: that all our science, measured against reality, is primitive and childlike -- and yet it is the most precious thing we have.
--Albert Einstein
The fact that life evolved out of nearly nothing, some 10 billion years after the universe evolved out of literally nothing, is a fact so staggering that I would be mad to attempt words to do it justice.
--Richard Dawkins
Be kind to all, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.
--Philo
At the end of last season I said I never wanted to see Adam on the field for Utah again. We've almost made it. I hope we can go one more game without having to see him out there.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
Way too early to judge Petersen. Who cares about wtf decisions; those are discrete instances and vs. Arizona it was bizarre that the rb even fumbled. The smart money is on him turning Washington into a powerhouse because he did it at Boise. He knows how to build a program, and he has a proven ability to do it where he's not getting the cream of the recruits. He's a tough sob like Urban Meyer.
Speaking of Washington, look at the trajectory of Cyler Myles this season compared to our quarterbacks.
One thing I have learned in a long life: that all our science, measured against reality, is primitive and childlike -- and yet it is the most precious thing we have.
--Albert Einstein
The fact that life evolved out of nearly nothing, some 10 billion years after the universe evolved out of literally nothing, is a fact so staggering that I would be mad to attempt words to do it justice.
--Richard Dawkins
Be kind to all, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.
--Philo
I don't think Utah has had an offensive identity since 2008. Maybe 2004.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
I don't really know why, but there are very few teams that manage to play well on both sides of the ball. Why does LSU always struggle offensively when they have so many good athletes?
There is clearly something about the system in Leach's case. It doesn't take a special QB to run it effectively. None of his big number QBs have gone on to NFL success. It would be interesting to see if an Air Raid could work at a school with elite talent.There are zero valid reasons why we can't seem to find an offense that works, and to train our players to be more effective. I have to wonder if Mike Leach and Rich Rod just use better drills and are more effective at teaching their QBs the reads and decision points.
I think a lot of it is having a well-defined and simple system that the entire offense can learn and play. It helps them that their system is unusual, so teams have a hard time prepping for it. Once their system is in place, they can just plug people in. We have no offensive identity, and it hurts.
Moore is the secret there. He was a once in a lifetime QB for Petersen. A guy that good does not come along often. He wasn't just another plug-in like a Leach QB. I'm not sure that Peterson has better players at every position right now than he did during BSU's best years. During those years, they had defenses where half of the starters would end up in the NFL. They had RBs and WRs who were being drafted.But then I look at UW and Chris Petersen. He has better players at every position, and is deeper at every position, than he has ever had. I appreciated watching the offense he had at Boise State, especially under Kellen Moore.
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