I like the Givens(es) and what they try to do but I do think their approach is over-wrought. So I think you and I actually agree on this.Originally Posted by SeattleUte
I like the Givens(es) and what they try to do but I do think their approach is over-wrought. So I think you and I actually agree on this.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
See, this is exactly what I was talking about in the other thread. Should be "Givenses'" here. Since you asked.
I was using it as an adjective, not possessive.
One thing I have learned in a long life: that all our science, measured against reality, is primitive and childlike -- and yet it is the most precious thing we have.
--Albert Einstein
The fact that life evolved out of nearly nothing, some 10 billion years after the universe evolved out of literally nothing, is a fact so staggering that I would be mad to attempt words to do it justice.
--Richard Dawkins
Be kind to all, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.
--Philo
Well played.
..."An insult to an ideology is not the same as a threat made to a people. Nor does one in any sense, logical or historical, flow from the other—a truth we know exactly because the people most inclined to say that a religion is ridiculous are those who were brought up practicing it." -- Adam Gopnik, The New Yorker, "PEN has every right to honor Charlie Hebdo" (April 30, 2015).
One thing I have learned in a long life: that all our science, measured against reality, is primitive and childlike -- and yet it is the most precious thing we have.
--Albert Einstein
The fact that life evolved out of nearly nothing, some 10 billion years after the universe evolved out of literally nothing, is a fact so staggering that I would be mad to attempt words to do it justice.
--Richard Dawkins
Be kind to all, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.
--Philo
Here's a crushing irony:
"I'm very proud of our football team, all the adversity, everything that went down. It means everything. That's what you do this for." – Gary Pinkel, his voice cracking, after he had stood with his black players’ boycott and following Missouri’s 20-16 victory over BYU.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/undefined
"The victory was the most satisfying one I've ever had in coaching." – Lloyd Eaton after he suspended the Black 14 and his Wyoming Cowboys, suddenly an all-white team, still defeated all-white BYU 40-7.
http://www.wyohistory.org/essays/bla...oming-football
One thing I have learned in a long life: that all our science, measured against reality, is primitive and childlike -- and yet it is the most precious thing we have.
--Albert Einstein
The fact that life evolved out of nearly nothing, some 10 billion years after the universe evolved out of literally nothing, is a fact so staggering that I would be mad to attempt words to do it justice.
--Richard Dawkins
Be kind to all, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.
--Philo
I don't know if it's ironic but it is crushing ... with the rise of a secularism, and an over sexualized society comes a dramatic rise in STD's: "There’s an ‘STD epidemic’ in the U.S. — and it’s getting worse ..."
http://news.nationalpost.com/health/...mic-in-the-u-s
About that...
Let's just say that it isn't the rise of secular believers who are to blame for fighting to close public health clinics.The increase in STDs is in many ways a result of cuts in funding to public health clinics, Gail Bolan, director of CDC’s Division of STD Prevention, told NBC.
"Most recently, there have been significant erosions of state and local STD control programs," Bolan said. "Most people don't recognize that the direct clinical care of individuals with sexually transmitted diseases is supported by state and local funds and federal funds."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...stds/75978596/
I am guessing that unbelievers are more likely to use condoms.
One thing I have learned in a long life: that all our science, measured against reality, is primitive and childlike -- and yet it is the most precious thing we have.
--Albert Einstein
The fact that life evolved out of nearly nothing, some 10 billion years after the universe evolved out of literally nothing, is a fact so staggering that I would be mad to attempt words to do it justice.
--Richard Dawkins
Be kind to all, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.
--Philo
I always pictured you guys as a bunch of Trekkies or something, so I expected it to read as "I am guessing that unbelievers are more likely to use condoms if the theoretical opportunity ever presented itself..."
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That's not fair. They are clearly successful enough to hire escorts and buy "Seven of Nine" costumes for said escorts, who will presumably require condom use.
So wait: people are having more unprotected sex because public health clinics are closing? Your logic is interesting. Kinda like a poster on the sister site (an ER doctor no less) who insisted that the prevalence of prostitutes offering their services in close proximity to strip clubs is a coincidence ... lol ... But still, let's address the issue of STD's in a country where public health clinics are plentiful, ever increasing in fact, and which are under no threat of being closed ... especially on college campuses:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/...rticle7781891/
And despite concerted efforts and considerable government $ spent on education, sexually transmitted diseases rise, and rise and rise ... no pun intended:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...erta-1.2950487
And that then just leaves officials perplexed:
http://www.catie.ca/en/hiv-canada/3/3-2
So yah ... it's the closing of health clinics that's the problem. Unless it's not:
http://www.metronews.ca/news/vancouv...a-and-b-c.html
But Gilbert believes to help stop the trend it has to start with the people.
Last edited by tooblue; 11-24-2015 at 05:24 PM.
By the way, condoms are free on all university and college campuses in Canada. Every campus has a health clinic in addition to a student life health services centre. At McGill University in Montreal it's called the Shag Shop. On our campus it's just called the Health and Wellness Centre.
And yet STD's are on the rise ...You could almost say it's an epidemic:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/...rticle4497069/
Last edited by tooblue; 11-24-2015 at 05:37 PM.
Canada is like the United States lobotomized. What's happening there is not relevant.By the way, condoms are free on all university and college campuses in Canada. Every campus has a health clinic in addition to a student life health services centre. At McGill University in Montreal it's called the Shag Shop. On our campus it's just called the Health and Wellness Centre.
And yet STD's are on the rise ...
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/...rticle4497069/
One thing I have learned in a long life: that all our science, measured against reality, is primitive and childlike -- and yet it is the most precious thing we have.
--Albert Einstein
The fact that life evolved out of nearly nothing, some 10 billion years after the universe evolved out of literally nothing, is a fact so staggering that I would be mad to attempt words to do it justice.
--Richard Dawkins
Be kind to all, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.
--Philo
You need to get out more. There is sex out there (outside Mormonism) so exquisite that if you had an inkling of what you are missing you would be crushed and debilitated under an intolerable weight of despair and regret.
One thing I have learned in a long life: that all our science, measured against reality, is primitive and childlike -- and yet it is the most precious thing we have.
--Albert Einstein
The fact that life evolved out of nearly nothing, some 10 billion years after the universe evolved out of literally nothing, is a fact so staggering that I would be mad to attempt words to do it justice.
--Richard Dawkins
Be kind to all, for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.
--Philo
Isn't that a copyright violation?
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
Yes... They say that about the Vulcan people... but being allowed to mate only once every 7 years seems difficult for mere humans like me.
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To progressives like you, Canada is heaven. I'm living in your future. What happens here will happen where you live. That actually, kinda renders you a type of Dr. Who, who is asexual ... Now that's exquisite.
haha, that may be true..... right up until your genitals start burning!
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