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    Mariota Isn't Walking Through That Door But The Utes Are

    Top 20 Matchup in Eugene this week.

    Time: 5:45 PT (6:45 MT)
    TV: Fox

    Polls:
    - Utah 17 (USA Today)/18 (AP)
    - Oregon 13 (both)

    Injuries
    Utah: Wilson (shoulder), Dimick (knee). Both expected to play..?

    Oregon: Adams (finger) - expected to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by U-Ute View Post
    Top 20 Matchup in Eugene this week.

    Time: 5:45 PT (6:45 MT)
    TV: Fox

    Polls:
    - Utah 17 (USA Today)/18 (AP)
    - Oregon 13 (both)

    Injuries
    Utah: Wilson (shoulder), Dimick (knee). Both expected to play..?

    Oregon: Adams (finger) - expected to play.
    I have disconcertingly little about Dimick's status. We could use him Saturday night.

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    I have disconcertingly little about Dimick's status. We could use him Saturday night.
    Pretty sure the broadcasters mentioned last night that he practiced the last few days. I expect him to start on Saturday.


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    Interesting breakdown of Utah's stats so far this season:

    Utah football: One-fourth through the season, numbers inform knowledge of 3-0 Utes


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    I am happy that the Utes won and record wise they are where most of us believed they would be at this point in the season, but I am just not that impressed with the play of a number of position groups.

    QB - I believed out QB's would be better but did not know whether it would show because of how poor our outside WR group is. Through 3 games, the QB's are who I thought they were.

    OL - Perhaps the most disappointing position group. I believe the Utes would have a B+/A- OL and through I would say that they are a C-. The pass blocking has been about a B, but the run blocking has been about a D. I know that averages out to a C, but the OL group has been less than average.

    TE/Slot - This group has performed a little better than I thought they would in the pass game, but have been average in run blocking. I thought they would be a C and they have probably been a C+ or B-

    WR's - I thought they would be a D and they have not disappointed. They are a D.

    Booker - Is a stud. Never has an open hole and always creates something.

    DL - I thought they would be an A group and they have probably played a little below that simply because they have not been able to sack the QB.

    LB - Paul and Norris have played A level and I figured they would.

    DB - I figured this would be a B group, but I would give them a C- so far.

    Special Teams - Hackett and Phillips have disappointed a little, 1 fumble and 2 TD's last night. I would put them at a B+ overall.

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    I just don't know if Utah is strategically capable of beating Oregon. They're vulnerable. The defense is the worst it's been in recent memory, and the offense lacks the pace and QB play of even a Darron Thomas or Jeremiah Masoli, nevermind Mariota. But can Utah capitalize with field position, big plays, and getting off the field on defense? I don't believe it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbird View Post
    I just don't know if Utah is strategically capable of beating Oregon. They're vulnerable. The defense is the worst it's been in recent memory, and the offense lacks the pace and QB play of even a Darron Thomas or Jeremiah Masoli, nevermind Mariota. But can Utah capitalize with field position, big plays, and getting off the field on defense? I don't believe it.
    😐 Probably right.


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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    Interesting breakdown of Utah's stats so far this season:

    Utah football: One-fourth through the season, numbers inform knowledge of 3-0 Utes
    This makes me so sad. 25% of the season already in the books.


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    so Oregon's QB has a broken finger on his throwing hand? How do you play with that?

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    LAUte, DevilUte, Redbird, you guys can just shove it. The Utes are ranked no. 17 in the land and Vegas rates them a pick 'em at Oregon. Kyle has got the Utes at the high point of even the most stupid, unreasonable of fans' expectations. We played 3 decent teams in pre-season and handled them, beat or essentially matched the spread, despite the terrible adversity of losing to injury our starting, senior quarterback. We didn't play Arkansas State and Idaho, like USC. Apparently the people who make their living evaluating the Utes regard them a lot higher than you do. So who cares what you say? Did you notice that Washington was just a 5.5 point favorite over Utah State, and Michigan is a 6 point favorite over BYU? I never thought I'd see the day when fans would rather see Chris Hill proven right than the Utes win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    LAUte, DevilUte, Redbird, you guys can just shove it. The Utes are ranked no. 17 in the land and Vegas rates them a pick 'em at Oregon. Kyle has got the Utes at the high point of even the most stupid, unreasonable of fans' expectations. We played 3 decent teams in pre-season and handled them, beat or essentially matched the spread, despite the terrible adversity of losing to injury our starting, senior quarterback. We didn't play Arkansas State and Idaho, like USC. Apparently the people who make their living evaluating the Utes regard them a lot higher than you do. So who cares what you say? Did you notice that Washington was just a 5.5 point favorite over Utah State, and Michigan is a 6 point favorite over BYU? I never thought I'd see the day when fans would rather see Chris Hill proven right than the Utes win.
    I agree that Utah is absolutely capable of beating Oregon. But you are wrong about them playing decent teams and covering the spread.

    Michigan is the only team Utah has played that currently has a winning record.

    Utah State's only win came in the season opener (at home) against Southern Utah. And by all accounts they should have lost that game. They were losing all game, and returned a punt for the winning touchdown (their only touchdown of the game) late in the game.

    Also, Utah did not cover the spread against Utah State.



    I do agree with you that at 3-0 and ranked in the top 20 we have a lot to be excited about. But you had a few facts wrong and that needed to be corrected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    So who cares what you say?
    Looks like you do. But rest assured: despite my thought crimes I think we might win Saturday and I would love, love, love to see that. Meanwhile I will only sip at the Kool-aid you're chugging.



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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    LAUte, DevilUte, Redbird, you guys can just shove it.
    Is it too much to ask that we are capable of completing a downfield pass?
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    Adams is a gamer. He reminds me of Jeremiah Masoli. But the index finger accounts for a large portion of the throwing power and control. If he has to wear a brace on it he will lack feel. If he is having pain in it and plays without the brace it will be a problem for him. Long passes downfield will be very difficult for him.

    He had a game-winning pass play at Michigan State, and threw the pass short and into the dirt.

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    Recognizing that the guy he's juking here is the punter, it's still a fun move to watch:



    I'd love to see some of this against Oregon.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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    Keys to winning IMO:


    1. Booker needs 150+ combined yards (running+receiving)
    2. We can't lose the turnover battle
    3. Our special teams need to perform at a high level. Keep the field in our favor, don't allow a big return. Get one or two of our own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by U-Ute View Post
    Keys to winning IMO:


    1. Booker needs 150+ combined yards (running+receiving)
    2. We can't lose the turnover battle
    3. Our special teams need to perform at a high level. Keep the field in our favor, don't allow a big return. Get one or two of our own.
    We can do this. I keep imagining the following conversation between Cardale Jones and Meyer or the OC in the NC game:

    Jones: "Coach, what shall we do now?"

    Coach: "How about you just take the ball from center and run it off tackle. That seems to be working REALLY well."

    Jones sneaks and goes for 16 yards.

    The Ducks were incapable of stopping just the most basic smash mouth offense that OSU threw at them over and over.
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    I hope we see more of this Saturday night:

    https://vine.co/v/ePqjQ5BBJJ6

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
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    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Oregon opens as a 14 point favorite.
    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    Oregon opens as a 14 point favorite.
    Good.

    Whit tends to leverage these things well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    Oregon opens as a 14 point favorite.
    No, it opened as a pick 'em then went to -14 Oregon.

    http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-...dds/las-vegas/
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    AP report, Eugene Oregon:

    In a new twist in the "let's keep them guessing who they have to prepare for" game, neither Oregon nor Utah will commit to actually having their teams show up for the game.

    Neither coach could be reached for comment as their phones numbers were disconnected. No word on whether or not the schools are actually still open.

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    Weekly presser by Helfrich about the Utah game.


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    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Schadenfreude at its finest.

    Oregon reactions about 2/3ds of the way down.

    http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2015/9/2...exas-longhorns

    Rated R for language.

    [SPOILER]
    I've never tackled someone in my life - I think I should try out for our defense.

    Hi I'm the Oregon secondary and I have cable.

    "Marcus who?"
    Fuck yourself.

    It's 55-13 and there is still one quarter left. What fucking parallel universe are we in?

    Oh god we're going to lose to Washington this year.

    Oh man, please hang like 80 points on us, Utah. We really need a new staff.

    If only we'd nailed that 2 point conversion in the 1st quarter. Things would have been so different...

    So this is what it feels like.

    How Can That TouchDown Be Real If Our Defense Isn't Real

    Can we just get a mercy rule? I've got work early tomorrow and I'd rather not get fucked in the ass for another 20 minutes.

    I'm at Autzen right now. Entire place feels like all of their souls have been forcibly extracted from their bodies. Terrible.

    Remember Mariota? Wasn't that fun?

    I had a dream my life would be
    So different from this hell I'm living
    So different now from what it seemed
    Now life has killed
    The dream I dreamed

    Do...do we have to play the 4th quarter?

    I'm not even like upset or anything. But I still have that like "I could cry if I wanted to feeling" in the back of mouth. But I'm not upset. Ohhh this is what feeling completely numb is like. Welp, this is new as a Ducks fan. Felt it for years as a Blazers fan. YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO CROSSOVER.

    when I was at OR [80-85] we would rink beer and smoke dope in the parking lot until halftime and if we were still in the game we would go in. I am so glad current students can share my experience..

    We're a competitive cheer school anyway!

    OMG, THIS IS SO FSKING DEPRESSING

    WE SUCK

    GOD I AM REELING
    I DID NOT ANTICIPATE THIS IN THE SLIGHTEST. JUST HOLY SHIT.

    Fire everyone
    I want a coach that will only run the triple option.
    Forward passes are a gimmick.

    WE ARE BAD AND SHOULD FEEL BAD

    I'M GOING TO GO LOOK FOR A RUSTY RAZOR BLADE.

    OUR DEFENSE COULD BE THE WORST IN THE COUNTRY
    UTAH IS JUST FUCKING WITH US NOW

    I FEEL LIKE THE SOUND OF SILENCE SHOULD BE PLAYING WHENEVER WE HAVE THE BALL

    You know, it's cool when you're good and wear flashy uniforms . . .
    It's embarrassing when you're bad.

    TEQUILA
    Holy crap I need tequila.

    What are the chances Uncle Phil makes a phone call and Helfrich gets fired this year?

    Just going to say it. Fuck this coaching staff. Fuck them for taking something great and making me watch this at 5:30am.

    WAKE UP SHITHEADS
    PRIDE, FUCKERS, PLAY FOR PRIDE

    FEELS LIKE THE 5TH LEVEL OF HELL
    WHERE IS DANTE WHEN YOU NEED HIM?

    Fuck everything
    Literally everything.

    Time to go to a pro-style offense with a heavy emphasis on time of possession.

    I blame apple-green unis.

    Break out the guillotine

    This is like watching Einstein in a chess match against a 5 year old with Down syndrome.

    So are we going to beat wake Forest in the bowl game this time?

    Let's be honest, we're no longer a championship contender in and out. Maybe we'll have a great season where the stars align, but now that we don't have Chip and Mariota, we won't be what we used to be.

    Unbelievable, Ichabod Crane has almost 100 yards rushing in the first half...

    Look for all other teams we play to do this stuff. After all we have boat raced most of them for years....pay back is a bitch.
    [/SPOILER]

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    Quote Originally Posted by U-Ute View Post
    Schadenfreude at its finest.
    I still voted for Tennessee.

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    My favorite quote: "We're a competitive cheer school anyway!" I'd love that on a t-shirt, which would be particularly funny if we continue to go out and kick ass.

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    Is the game on Fox Sports 1?


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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    Is the game on Fox Sports 1?


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    Fox...the big Fox.
    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    Fox...the big Fox.
    Guessing tooblue will complain he can't find Fox in Canada.


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