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  1. #391
    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    How you like dem apples?

    Jamal Willis is next. Then Sark as a consultant
    I'm looking forward to Sark's press conferences and fireside talks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    Crowton was aloof. That's about as nice a descriptor as I can write.

    Bronco was...odd.

    Bronco did things Lavell would never dream of doing, principally, the weekly firesides. He also never had a single shred of passion about beating you guys. My grandmother was in Lavell's ward for years and I would talk football with him at every opportunity and the man was passionate about beating Utah.

    It always felt that Bronco was a square peg in a round hole and was doing things that only seemed to appeal to his masters, BYU the Institution, and not BYU the Football Team.

    Kalani will win games and he will want to beat you like no one has since Lavell retired.
    Having known Gary and people that played for him both at BYU and Oregon you are the first person that has ever described him as aloof, that I know.

  3. #393
    Quote Originally Posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
    Having known Gary and people that played for him both at BYU and Oregon you are the first person that has ever described him as aloof, that I know.
    I'm trying to be nice.

    Adopting a Brazilian kid in the next three months, inspired by your great story.

  4. #394
    Just saw a BYU Pilsner Glass gift set on sale at Kohls. If Sarkesian comes on board, it might be a nice gesture to have that at the ready the first time Detmer runs a play that always worked fantastically in high school, but implodes badly at the P5 level.

    As long as Sitake is bringing back the ex-BYU player Super Heroes to form his staff, even *I* would be willing to donate to the cause if he coaxed former BYU kicker Jason Chaffetz to give up his stint as a veteran term-limits driven Congressional reformer.

    The TSA people would appreciate that, as well. "Really, Representative Chaffetz, we're not getting our jollies by looking at your teenage daughter with the security scanners. Promise."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post

    Adopting a Brazilian kid in the next three months, inspired by your great story.
    Congratulations, that's awesome. Best wishes to you and your family.

  6. #396
    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    Detmer is a sleeping giant. There's no further explanation needed.

    Jesus Rockne Christ couldn't live up to the expectations BYU fans have of Detmer. From a win/loss standpoint, there's a natural ceiling BYU has to overcome.....limited coaching pool, small recruiting base, no conference affiliation to name a few. Bronco pretty much hit that ceiling. All you're really hoping for is a bowl win here and there, and one more rivalry win over the course of a decade. Put yourself in the GA or LSU fan base bucket.

    If boosters exercise patience I think you can field a decent team in a couple of years, but BYU fans are better known for huge swings of emotions......whether cratering on Ngata to Oregon, or the euphoria of Detmer, the fan base goes mental real fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mUUser View Post
    Jesus Rockne Christ couldn't live up to the expectations BYU fans have of Detmer. From a win/loss standpoint, there's a natural ceiling BYU has to overcome.....limited coaching pool, small recruiting base, no conference affiliation to name a few. Bronco pretty much hit that ceiling. All you're really hoping for is a bowl win here and there, and one more rivalry win over the course of a decade. Put yourself in the GA or LSU fan base bucket.

    If boosters exercise patience I think you can field a decent team in a couple of years, but BYU fans are better known for huge swings of emotions......whether cratering on Ngata to Oregon, or the euphoria of Detmer, the fan base goes mental real fast.
    I think the low point of the Ngata saga was the CB discussion about whether his decision to go to Oregon was the reason for his dad's tragic death in a truck accident shortly after Haloti's commitment to the Ducks. I think good old Y'zGuy started that one.


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  8. #398
    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    I think the low point of the Ngata saga was the CB discussion about whether his decision to go to Oregon was the reason for his dad's tragic death in a truck accident shortly after Haloti's commitment to the Ducks. I think good old Y'zGuy started that one.
    I remember it being a grueling decision for Haloti, he was leaning Oregon, his mom wanted BYU, and they were able to meet with (then) Apostle Thomas S. Monson to help resolve things, and he told them to get the answer through prayer.

    News of the meeting with the Apostle reached CB, and there was grumbling about how the Apostle could have undermined the Church's school that way, and how the Ngatas were able to get that kind of access to such a high level of the church, to begin with.

    It will be interesting to see how much Sitake resorts to using the "hard sell" in recruiting LDS kids. My hunch is he won't start that way, but as things come back to Earth, and the rumbling starts, he might.

  9. #399
    Quote Originally Posted by mUUser View Post
    Jesus Rockne Christ couldn't live up to the expectations BYU fans have of Detmer. From a win/loss standpoint, there's a natural ceiling BYU has to overcome.....limited coaching pool, small recruiting base, no conference affiliation to name a few. Bronco pretty much hit that ceiling. All you're really hoping for is a bowl win here and there, and one more rivalry win over the course of a decade. Put yourself in the GA or LSU fan base bucket.

    If boosters exercise patience I think you can field a decent team in a couple of years, but BYU fans are better known for huge swings of emotions......whether cratering on Ngata to Oregon, or the euphoria of Detmer, the fan base goes mental real fast.
    What bucket are you in? You're either sixth place in the conference in your best year or second place in the doormat of the conference competition, with your new rival in first place. You are in a P5 conference but you are not P5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    What bucket are you in? You're either sixth place in the conference in your best year or second place in the doormat of the conference competition, with your new rival in first place. You are in a P5 conference but you are not P5.
    You're spending too much time on Cougarboard.


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  11. #401
    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    You're spending too much time on Cougarboard.


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    I've been banished from there since 2008

    I'm just stating the facts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    I'm just stating the facts
    Of Pac-12 teams, only Oregon has won more games since the beginning of last season than Utah, and the last time Utah faced Oregon, it scored seven unanswered touchdowns while dealing the Ducks their most lopsided loss since 2003.

    Utah's 2011 classmate, Colorado, has won fewer conference games in five seasons (five) than Utah won in 2015 alone (six) — the Buffaloes' best win coming against the Utes in 2011. The other four teams Colorado has beaten finished a combined 3-33 those years in conference.

    The Utes, meanwhile, have bested every Pac-12 team — from half-pints to big shots — at least once. This year they played 10 bowl-bound teams and defeated three with 9-3 regular-season records.
    http://www.sltrib.com/sports/3347234...-3-season-what


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  13. #403
    Quote Originally Posted by Viking View Post
    I've been banished from there since 2008

    I'm just stating the facts
    And you and every other Y fan would trade your first born child to be a non-P 5 team in a P 5 conference, as you put it.

  14. #404
    Viking: "You are in a P5 conference but you are not P5. Just stating the facts"

    LA Ute: (simply copies and pastes the beginning of SL Trib article assessing Utah's tenure in the PAC-12, which is generally quite impressive.)

    As Letterman used to describe this kind of beat down: "Ouch"

    Viking, brother, I hope you don't set yourself up for this kind of abuse in your line of work.

    That was like launching yourself as a beachball pitch, at a softball game where Star Lotulelei is at the plate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ma'ake View Post
    Viking: "You are in a P5 conference but you are not P5. Just stating the facts"

    LA Ute: (simply copies and pastes the beginning of SL Trib article assessing Utah's tenure in the PAC-12, which is generally quite impressive.)

    As Letterman used to describe this kind of beat down: "Ouch"
    But I posted it with love in my heart, Ma'ke.

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    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    But I posted it with love in my heart, Ma'ke.
    lol. That's a double "ouch".

    Hey Viking - quit while you're not too far behind.

    Ie, if that LA's loving reaction, the angry reaction would make you want to sign up for remedial Kindergarten.

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    Jeez you two. You are so civilized here. That was hardly a bloody beat down. I think he'll survive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devildog View Post
    Jeez you two. You are so civilized here. That was hardly a bloody beat down. I think he'll survive.
    I once competed in a thing called the "Corporate Games", which I referred to as the "Office Worker Olympics".

    Not impressive.

    The companies that really take this competition seriously somehow end up with ex-D1 athletes. In the 5K, the guy who won it was an all-America in track in college. I saw him for about 20 seconds after the start, and admired his time when I crossed the finish line, wanted to shake his hand, but he was long gone by then, probably at home in the shower.

    Running a 200m sprint after being sedentary for a decade educated me about muscle groups I'd never actually been aware of before. (That was my wake up call that the couch really wasn't my friend.)

  19. #409
    Oregon hires Brady Hoke as its new DC.

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    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    Oregon hires Brady Hoke as its new DC.

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    Dangerous. He put together a stellar defense at Michigan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Yes. This is like the Lane Kiffin hire where all the fans laughed and all the opposing coaches got nervous.
    Agreed. Hokes did fine at SDSU. UO is trying to shore-up the defensive side of things by reaching an outside talent.

    Let's see how Utah does by staying with an "inside" talent on the offensive side of things. So far, meh. Per Whit, it's always the "coach's fault"; you either can't coach or can't recruit. Worst outcome...you are both.

  22. #412
    Dave Christensen let go by A&M as OL coach today.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight Schr-Ute View Post
    Dave Christensen let go by A&M as OL coach today.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight Schr-Ute View Post
    Dave Christensen let go by A&M as OL coach today.


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    Maybe Troy Calhoon will hire him.
    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

  25. #415
    Utah Football picks up two new recruiting assistants today. Deuce Lutui and Reece Hicks. Not sure if they have sons that we're recruiting.


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    Deuce Lutui's kids would begin to graduate HS sometime around 2020, so hopefully we aren't recruiting them too hard. It will be nice to have another NFL player, especially one who was an All-American, on the staff.

  27. #417
    So who replaces Strong at Texas? Herman?

    Who's going to Baton Rouge?

    Does Craig stay at Wyoming?

    Any movement in the Pac-12? Remember when people were saying USC would have an opening this year?

  28. #418
    Pete Thamel still thinks Helfrich is a goner. He also lists Kyle as a Texas candidate (though he, like everyone, expects Herman to get the UT job):

    http://www.campusrush.com/college-fo...low_twitter_si

  29. #419
    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    So who replaces Strong at Texas?.....

    I don't know, but somebody will get a good coach and a someone overflowing with character. By all accounts, he seems to be one of the good guys in the sport.
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    Helfrich gone at Oregon.

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