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    2016 Preseason Thread

    With the Pac-12 media poll out (Utes picked 3rd in south), we can start an actual preseason thread, right?

    Here's the poll:

    North:

    Cards
    Huskies
    Ducks
    Cougars
    Bears
    Beavs

    South:

    Bruins
    Trojans
    Utes
    'cats
    Devils
    Buffs

    South is wide open. If Troy Williams to Tim Patrick is a thing, we are right in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    With the Pac-12 media poll out (Utes picked 3rd in south), we can start an actual preseason thread, right?

    Here's the poll:

    North:

    Cards
    Twitter says this is the first time Stanford has ever been picked to win the conference. Let's hope they blow it!

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    Pac-12 media days today and tomorrow. The only intrigue I have with these things is to see which local media member will win the annual Kevin Graham award as the person who tries to hijack Pac-12 media days and turn it into a BYU-utah conversation. My money is on one of the KFAN guys, with anyone at 1280 close behind.

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    BYU's schedule in September year almost looks like they are a junior member of the PAC-12. Their first three games are against PAC-12 teams.
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    It's nice to see us getting some respect from the media members. I'm a bit surprised that we were picked ahead of both Arizona schools give our struggles against them. Now we've got to go out and prove it!

    In re-watching the Michigan game yesterday, it made me realize that we'll have some serious depth at TE if those guys can stay healthy. If we don't run Joe Williams into the ground and offer a nice 1-2 punch with him and McCormick on the inside/outside game, I think the offense could really pop. To say nothing of Moss. Here's hoping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrenrut View Post
    BYU's schedule in September year almost looks like they are a junior member of the PAC-12. Their first three games are against PAC-12 teams.
    That is one set of games when even Sancho will be cheering for the PAC-12 teams to win.

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    The one good thing about the Y getting in would be that they would have a lot less incentive to schedule us in football, and even in basketball. If they only have 3 slots in Sept. for non-conference games, they aren't going to want to use one on us every year, and they aren't going to want to over-schedule. Maybe their pre-season bb sched will look like ours this year. Maybe we could go our separate ways (my preference for the last 6 years.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    The one good thing about the Y getting in would be that they would have a lot less incentive to schedule us in football, and even in basketball. If they only have 3 slots in Sept. for non-conference games, they aren't going to want to use one on us every year, and they aren't going to want to over-schedule. Maybe their pre-season bb sched will look like ours this year. Maybe we could go our separate ways (my preference for the last 6 years.)
    The Y will never get into the Pac. Hell will freeze over first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    That is one set of games when even Sancho will be cheering for the PAC-12 teams to win.
    Go wildcats! I'll always root against BYU, but it would be especially nice of them to lose this season. if they go 6-6 or better in year 1 of Sitake, they will be even less fun than usual to be around.

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    That depends. We're all of the charges dropped? If so, then welcome aboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    With the Pac-12 media poll out (Utes picked 3rd in south), we can start an actual preseason thread, right?
    I changed it to 2016 Preseason Thread and will close the Pre-Preseason Thread. Our house here is a house of order!

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    Stewart Mandel ranks Utah 17th:

    http://www.foxsports.com/college-foo...ichigan-080316

    5 PAC-12 teams in his top 25.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
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    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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    Football quotes, just for fun:

    "Gentlemen, it is better to have died a small boy than to fumble the football" - John Heisman

    "I make my practices real hard because if a player is a quitter, I want him to quit in practice, not in a game." – Bear Bryant / Alabama

    "It isn't necessary to see a good tackle, you can hear it!” - Knute Rockne / Notre Dame

    "At Georgia Southern, we don't cheat. That costs money, and we don't have any." – Erik Russell / Georgia Southern

    "The man who complains about the way the ball bounces is likely to be the one who dropped it." - Lou Holtz / Arkansas - Notre Dame

    "When you win, nothing hurts." - Joe Namath / Alabama

    "A school without football is in danger of deteriorating into a medieval study hall." - Frank Leahy / Notre Dame

    "There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." - Woody Hayes / Ohio State

    "I don't expect to win enough games to be put on NCAA probation. I just want to win enough to warrant an investigation." - Bob Devaney / Nebraska

    In Alabama, an atheist is someone who doesn't believe in Bear Bryant." - Wally Butts /Georgia

    "I never graduated from Iowa. But I was only there for two terms - Truman's and Eisenhower's." – Alex Karras / Iowa

    My advice to defensive players is to take the shortest route to the ball, and arrive in a bad humor." - Bowden Wyatt / Tennessee

    "I could have been a Rhodes Scholar except for my grades." - Duffy Daugherty / Michigan State

    "Always remember Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David." - Shug Jordan / Auburn

    "I asked Darrell Royal, the coach of the Texas Longhorns, why he didn't recruit me ." He said, "Well, Walt, we took a look at you, and you weren't any good." - Walt Garrison / Oklahoma State

    "Son, you've got a good engine, but your hands aren't on the steering wheel." - Bobby Bowden / Florida State

    "Football is NOT a contact sport, it is a collision sport. Dancing IS a contact sport." - Duffy Daugherty / Michigan State

    USC lost 51-0 to Notre Dame, his post-game message to his team was, "All those who need showers, take them." - John McKay / USC

    "If lessons are learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." Murray Warmath / Minnesota

    "The only qualifications for a lineman are to be big and dumb. To be a back, you only have to be dumb." - Knute Rockne / Notre Dame

    "We live one day at a time and scratch where it itches." - Darrell Royal / Texas

    "We didn't tackle well today, but we made up for it by not blocking." - John McKay / USC

    I've found that prayers work best when you have big players." - Knute Rockne / Notre Dame

    Ohio State's Urban Meyer on one of his players: "He doesn't know the meaning of the word fear. In fact, I just saw his grades and he doesn't know the meaning of a lot of words."

    Why do Tennessee fans wear orange? So they can dress that way for the game on Saturday, go hunting on Sunday, and pick up trash on Monday.

    What does the average Alabama player get on his SATs? Drool.

    How many Michigan freshmen football players does it take to change a light bulb? None. That's a sophomore course.

    How did the Auburn football player die from drinking milk? The cow fell on him.

    Two Texas A&M football players were walking in the woods. One of them said, "Look, a dead bird." The other looked up in the sky and said, "Where?" (Must have been Tony?)

    What do you say to a Michigan State University football player dressed in a three-piece suit? " "Will the defendant please rise."

    If three Florida State football players are in the same car, who is driving? The police officer.

    How can you tell if a Clemson football player has a girlfriend? There's tobacco juice on both sides of the pickup truck.

    What do you get when you put 32 Arkansas cheerleaders in one room? A full set of teeth.

    University of Michigan Coach Jim Harbaugh is only going to dress half of his players for the game this week; the other half will have to dress themselves.

    How is the Kansas football team like an opossum? They play dead at home and get killed on the road.

    Why did the Nebraska linebacker steal a police car? He saw "911" on the side and thought it was a Porsche.

    How do you get a former Illinois football player off your porch? Pay him for the pizza.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Butler-Byrd suspended indefinitely.
    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    Butler-Byrd suspended indefinitely.
    Just saw that on twitter....
    Dang. Hope he can get things right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian View Post
    Just saw that on twitter....
    Dang. Hope he can get things right.
    Yeah, I hope it isn't anything that will affect him long term.

    In the meantime, who is our next best deep threat? Young?

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    Quote Originally Posted by U-Ute View Post
    Yeah, I hope it isn't anything that will affect him long term.

    In the meantime, who is our next best deep threat? Young?
    I heard he was going to be suspended as well (for the assault incident earlier in the year), though if he is I assume it would only be for one game or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by U-Ute View Post
    Yeah, I hope it isn't anything that will affect him long term.

    In the meantime, who is our next best deep threat? Young?
    So from what I have been hearing, the suspension isn't anything serious. It doesn't sound like anything legal or even grades. My conjecture it's a mental health issue or something similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by U-Ute View Post
    In the meantime, who is our next best deep threat? Young?
    If he can hold down the job, Kyle Fulks. He's 5-9/175, but he's wicked fast. 10.21 100M / 20.86 200M. I watched the video of the 5A Texas 100M finals when Fulks was a junior in HS. He came in second at 10.38, behind a kid who cranked out a 10.19. Those times are electronic. Utah's state high school record was set in 1981, a 10.49. This year's winning time was 10.68. California's best 100M this year was 10.27. Florida's was a 10.26.

    If Guy Holiday can get ahold of this kid, teach him how to run routes, and he can catch the ball, look out.

    He was listed as the 4th fastest college player in 2013, as a freshman at Baylor: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...otball/page/24 (Fulks runs the final leg in this record setting 4x100 as a junior)

    Crazy that receivers as athletic as CBB and Fulks are now put in the slot (like Covey). 15 years ago the idea was to try and get a mismatch between your slot WR and a LB.

    Looking at our own defense, with Justin Thomas at nickel, that just doesn't happen anymore. Brice McCain has made a solid career in the league by playing nickel, now with the Dolphins.

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    Apparently Zach Moss practiced yesterday, so his "shin fractures" have made remarkable progress.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight Schr-Ute View Post
    Apparently Zach Moss practiced yesterday, so his "shin fractures" have made remarkable progress.


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    Its either a miracle or a deal with the devil.

    I'll let BYU fans decide which.

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    Quote Originally Posted by U-Ute View Post
    Its either a miracle or a deal with the devil.

    I'll let BYU fans decide which.
    Living right on and off the field.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by U-Ute View Post
    Its either a miracle or a deal with the devil.

    Like Bernie, he made a deal with Hillary?

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    Nice set of short interviews here:

    http://espn700sports.com/utes/utah-f...p-notes-day-4/

    Joe Williams is a delightful guy to listen to.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    CBB did get in trouble.

    http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4213919-155/utah-football-cory-butler-byrd-charged-with


    Cory Butler-Byrd, a senior receiver for Utah football, is facing a criminal mischief charge after damaging a University Police vehicle and patrol building, according to court documents filed Tuesday.

    The 21-year-old California native could face up to one year in jail for the class A misdemeanor filed in Third District Court.

    He was suspended indefinitely last week from the football team for what coach Kyle Whittingham described as "personal issues."
    I hope he's able to get his act together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by U-Ute View Post
    CBB did get in trouble.

    http://www.sltrib.com/sports/4213919-155/utah-football-cory-butler-byrd-charged-with




    I hope he's able to get his act together.
    This story sounds like someone who needs help. I hope he can get waht he needs.

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    I watched the Periscope of the Circle Drill from yesterday, and they put Leki v Bolles.

    I saw Leki up close and personal last fall when we went to a few basketball games and, maybe it was just the pads, but man he looks huge now. He seems 40 pounds bigger. Dude is a beast.

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    Oh and Zach Moss looks like a beast too. Powerful kid.

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    i keep hearing him being mentioned in interviews.

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    These Periscopes are great for 2 reasons.

    1. It's fun to get an inside glimpse into practices.
    2. I show it to my kids whenever they think they want to play football. The Circle Drill is one step away from Thunderdome land.

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