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  1. #121
    Brendan wenzell, a 6'6 wing is on a visit. Recently let out of his loi with utep. Texas and I state also pushing.

  2. #122
    Rayquan Evans is off the board. Committed to FSU. Tajzmel Sherman is likely headed to WVU, if you put stock in the 247 crystal ball.

  3. #123
    Full list of transfers (so far): https://verbalcommits.com/transfers/2019

    631 names on that list.
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  4. #124
    Article on Wenzel said he only had 1 visit left--so maybe that is a good sign he came here (unless it is an unofficial); Sherman was scheduled to be at UWV this past weekend.

  5. #125
    Sounds like Sherman is most likely headed to Morgantown. He'll announce his decision on Wednesday afternoon.

    Wenzel might be a nice piece as a shooter but I'm not sure he's a high impact guy as a freshman. Utah desperately needs someone who can make an impact next year at both the SG and PG positions.

    Utah is currently scheduled to have seven freshmen next year and could end up with as many as nine depending on how the next few weeks play out, which is a recipe for another disappointing season and a bunch more transfers in the next year or two.

    Utah's path to improvement and pushing for an NCAA bid in 2020 was: 1) keep the core, 2) get a solid JC or grad transfer SG (Sherman was the target) and 3) get a good grad transfer PG. If they can convince Jayce to stay it is still possible to hit those three objectives, but I am not very optimistic on any of them. It's very possible that we go 0/3 on those points.

  6. #126
    Wenzel is the caliber of player you sign to fill a roster spot after you have lost out on your first 3 or 4 options. The kid has the skill to shoot in high school, but pretty much on a tryout. He replaces Pop, who was the same.

  7. #127
    So why in the hell arent we going after toolson? shoots 46% from the 3 and was wac POY. We need shooting. How is Wenzel any better than toolson?
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  8. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
    So why in the hell arent we going after toolson? shoots 46% from the 3 and was wac POY. We need shooting. How is Wenzel any better than toolson?
    Probably can't offer him the guaranteed playing time hes seeking

  9. #129
    To be fair, I would prefer that the final 2 scholarships go to 1) Jayce Johnson and 2) a grad transfer point or combo guard who can hold down the fort for a year while Rylan gets used to D1 ball. I see Toolson as strictly a 2 guard (who cant defend much).

  10. #130
    Finally, I wouldn't be surprised if Wenzel has an "offer" and not an "Offer". Time will tell.

    (Sorry for the excessive posts. The edit post button just automatically deletes my post while Im in Chrome.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
    So why in the hell arent we going after toolson? shoots 46% from the 3 and was wac POY. We need shooting. How is Wenzel any better than toolson?
    do we even know if a "Toolson" would be open to going to Utah? I assume with that surname, he's a Utah County kid, with some BYU family history and might not be open to joining the dark side?

  12. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by Scorcho View Post
    do we even know if a "Toolson" would be open to going to Utah? I assume with that surname, he's a Utah County kid, with some BYU family history and might not be open to joining the dark side?
    He left the Y for UVU. Word is he hates the Y and would never go back.

  13. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    He left the Y for UVU. Word is he hates the Y and would never go back.
    Yes, but now his coaches at UVU would be his coaches at BYU.

  14. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by UTEopia View Post
    Yes, but now his coaches at UVU would be his coaches at BYU.
    I get that but he is not going back apparently

  15. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by UtahsMrSports View Post
    Probably can't offer him the guaranteed playing time hes seeking
    Guarantee? Really? That's what has been discussed? The fact that our coaches engage in a discussion like that with a player is pretty awful. The fact they can't finesse that kind of a question from a young man they really need so that they get him is pathetic. This player was honorable mention All-American and we won't recruit him because of perceived expectations about playing time? The whole scene makes me want to vomit. Our coaches are weak. They're losers.

    It's also an established fact that our coaches have terrible judgment in these situations.
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  16. #136
    Didn't Kennth Ogbe tear it up for UVU as well? Toolson may be great, but I don't want to read too much into stats out of Orem.

    Plus, all season long, we've complained about the superior athleticism of our Pac-12 opponents. Toolson does nothing to help us there, right? Maybe Larry is too greedy and wants a SG with shooting and athleticism. Maybe he'll end up with neither.

  17. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Didn't Kennth Ogbe tear it up for UVU as well? Toolson may be great, but I don't want to read too much into stats out of Orem.

    Plus, all season long, we've complained about the superior athleticism of our Pac-12 opponents. Toolson does nothing to help us there, right? Maybe Larry is too greedy and wants a SG with shooting and athleticism. Maybe he'll end up with neither.
    Do we have choices?
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  18. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Do we have choices?
    I don't know. That's why I said we may end up with nothing. It looks more and more like Larry's future with us depends on one of the following things happening:

    1. Rylan Jones is a stud from the start.
    2. Both Gach makes a sophomore leap for the ages.
    3. A transfer guard comes to save the day.

  19. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Guarantee? Really? That's what has been discussed? The fact that our coaches engage in a discussion like that with a player is pretty awful. The fact they can't finesse that kind of a question from a young man they really need so that they get him is pathetic. This player was honorable mention All-American and we won't recruit him because of perceived expectations about playing time? The whole scene makes me want to vomit. Our coaches are weak. They're losers.

    It's also an established fact that our coaches have terrible judgment in these situations.
    It is simply glorious to me how far you are taking this fairy tale that I somehow work for the staff. It's kind of fun to watch someone fall off the wagon in real time.

  20. #140
    Quote Originally Posted by UtahsMrSports View Post
    It is simply glorious to me how far you are taking this fairy tale that I somehow work for the staff. It's kind of fun to watch someone fall off the wagon in real time.
    Whatever your connection to the team, you disclosed that they’re negotiating playing time guarantees with recruits.
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  21. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Whatever your connection to the team, you disclosed that they’re negotiating playing time guarantees with recruits.
    They're also in discussions with the mon-stars. And Jimmy chitwood. And John dehlin.

  22. #142
    On a serious note, adding Daniels should be a big help even if he can't recruit directly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahsMrSports View Post
    It is simply glorious to me how far you are taking this fairy tale that I somehow work for the staff. It's kind of fun to watch someone fall off the wagon in real time.
    He likes to make up defamatory innuendo.

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  24. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by UtahsMrSports View Post
    They're also in discussions with the mon-stars. And Jimmy chitwood. And John dehlin.
    That’s really disappointing.
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  25. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    That’s really disappointing.
    Yeah, if he lands Chitwood, the townspeople won’t be able to get him fired.
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  26. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    He likes to make up defamatory innuendo.
    Seattle has a bad case of LDS..........Larry Derangement Syndrome (Ill show myself out).

  27. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by UtahsMrSports View Post
    Seattle has a bad case of LDS..........Larry Derangement Syndrome (Ill show myself out).
    Seattle is the most LDS person I know.


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  28. #148
    Taz Sherman to WVU.

  29. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by Old Standing ute View Post
    Taz Sherman to WVU.
    I started seeing a couple of CB predictions of him to WVU and then the twitter folks weren't hyping his announcement at all, so i figured he wasn't coming here. Bummer. Would have been a nice get.

  30. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by UtahsMrSports View Post
    Brendan wenzell, a 6'6 wing is on a visit. Recently let out of his loi with utep. Texas and I state also pushing.
    Wenzell commits to the U.

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