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    College Gameday against the Husky Boys

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    Probably should have started with these:

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    Line opens as Huskys -10.5
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    A look at the schedule of the Huskies shows they've had the relative easy part of their schedule... but so have we. Chris Peterson at BSU had Utah's number in a big way. I think Utah is going to pull it together and play the best game of their season, but I wonder if it will be enough. You've got to believe that they saw the UCLA game and aren't going to want to have Joe Williams setting school records (and current season records) on them. Does that open up other parts of the game for us? How can we play that to our advantage.

    Secondary got torn up yesterday. That's got to change if we've got a shot. Faelen had a pretty good game considering he got rushed a ton, very cool head. We've got to get pressure in the backfield.

    I'm pretty nervous about this. I really don't want it to be like the TCU coming out party when Game Day was here two times ago.

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    This game totally reminds me of 2010. The similarities are very eerie. For example:

    In 2010, you had a 9-0 team vs a 8-0 team. You had college gameday present. You had major bowl implications (BCS) on the line.

    You had team 1, with no bye coming into the game. They had faced a tougher schedule before hand. Their opponents average offensive rank was 69. Their opponents defensive rank was 76. Their offense wasn't scoring as much per game as team 2.

    Team 2 had a bye in week 5. They had faced an easier schedule leading up to the game. Their opponent's average offensive rank was 91. Their opponent's average defensive rank was 80. Their offense was more potent scoring wise than team 1.

    Team 1 went out and destroyed team two, 47-7.

    This season is almost an exact copy of that season. This year has a 7-1 team vs a 7-0 team. College Gameday will be present. Winner has the inside track on a playoff berth at best, Rose Bowl at worst.

    Team 1 has not had a bye coming into the game. They have faced a tougher schedule so far. Their opponent's average offensive rank is 59 and defense is 86. Their offense isn't scoring as much as team 2.

    Team 2 has had a bye in week 6 coming into the game. They have faced an easier schedule so far. Their opponent's average offensive rank is 85 and defensive is 93. Their offense is scoring more than team 1 per game.

    The big difference this year? Washington looks like 2010 Utah and Utah looks like 2010 TCU.

    As great as Washington has looked so far, they haven't faced a team anywhere near as good as Utah.

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    Here is a crazy stat: If you look at total yards, Utah is the best offense Washington has faced all year. Only Stanford has a better defense.

    Offensive yard-wise, UCLA and Washington essentially the same. Cal has a better offense. Washington will be the best defense we have faced all year, although UCLA was very similar until we played them.

    What's my point? We've faced better offensive teams than Washington and similar defensive teams.

    They haven't faced a team anywhere near as good as we are.

    Edit: If you look at yds/game, Oregon is a better offensive team with 480-ish yards/gm. We are still at 433 yds/game.
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    Utah...in many cases, I don't agree with your rose-colored views. Nonetheless, in this case, I like your data and am really hopeful that your prognostication is on the bulls-eye (at least on the target). Certainly don't want the repeat of 2010 -- at least make it competitive. I really don't want to see the team/school/fan-base go through the experience of 2010 or that of many BSU games.

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    College Gameday against the Husky Boys

    I think one thing Utah has going for it is a huge psychological advantage. Yes, they're at home. But the primary reason I say this is that everything has just come too easily to Washington thus far--deceptively easy I submit. Husky fans have wanted soooooooo! badly to end Oregon's winning streak, and they did it in resounding fashion. The problem is, Oregon is a bad team. It just is. Also, there was this huge expectation for the Stanford game; from the perspective of Husky fans, as it loomed the game looked much like this game does to Utah. And the Huskies blew them out. But now we see that Stanford is not so good after all. The Huskies' pre-season was a joke. And lest we forget, Arizona took them into overtime.

    After 15 dismal or mediocre years--including an 0-12 season--the elation here is incredible. Recently the Huskies were in the top 10 for the first time in the last 15 years. How many times have the Utes been in the top 10 in the last 15 years? A lot of times. I think the Huskies are a very good team--and I say this as a Huskies fan who has raised his children to cheer for the Huskies (though I'm a Huskies fan at not anywhere near the depth and degree that I'm Ute fan)--but I have a feeling they are not as good as they or the media thinks they are.

    On the other hand, all this ballyhooing of the Huskies only motivates the Utes--who really have a lot less to lose, don't they. There is much less burden of history and of expectations on the Utes. Moreover, the Utes, after all those injuries, must feel like they are playing with house money. Mentally, Joe Williams is in a perfect place right now, running behind an O-line loaded with future NFLers. I think that Saturday the Utes will be the tougher, more crazy but looser team, the team playing with abandon, at home, in a tough place for visitors.

    Then there is this interesting subplot: Troy Williams was recruited to Washington by recruiter extraordinaire Steve Sarkisian--Sarkisian followed him almost all through high school. He was the top dual threat prospect in the nation (173d on the ESPN 300; Utah has hardly ever had an ESPN 300 freshman recruit). But after Troy's freshman year Sark went to USC, Chris Peterson came, and he recruited his own quarterback, Jake Browning. Troy lost the starting job to Browning and transferred. Troy is a quiet, down to business, seemingly low emotion guy who has had not much to say about the foregoing. But revenge is a dish best served cold...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Utah has never had an ESPN 300 freshman recruit
    For what it's worth, Utah had an ESPN 300 freshman recruit last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scratch View Post
    For what it's worth, Utah had an ESPN 300 freshman recruit last year.
    I stand corrected. Tupai was 270th last year. He's the only one I'm aware of.
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    I'm really nervous about the middle of our defense on Saturday. Barton is just too slow to stay with TEs, not to mention RB out of the backfield. Is it possible that tauteloli will be back for the game? Also, I loved the 2 picks by our safeties, but we obviously miss Marcus back there. We were soft as butter on coverage over the middle and tackling (Brian Allen, shame on you) all over the field. We'll have to clean that up to have a prayer on Saturday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Applejack View Post
    I'm really nervous about the middle of our defense on Saturday. Barton is just too slow to stay with TEs, not to mention RB out of the backfield. Is it possible that tauteloli will be back for the game? Also, I loved the 2 picks by our safeties, but we obviously miss Marcus back there. We were soft as butter on coverage over the middle and tackling (Brian Allen, shame on you) all over the field. We'll have to clean that up to have a prayer on Saturday.
    I haven't figured out if Barton's numbers are a result of him being good or our defense setting up for LBs to make a ton of tackles.

    I will say this...I have a tough time imagining that UW's WRs are going to be wide open at the same clip that they were against Oregon St.

    We're gonna need to pressure Browning early and often.
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    The Ravens are on a bye this week...let's get Steve Smith to SLC as the Celebrity Guest Picker.
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    One thing we can be sure of is that Washington will be ready for that counter play. It'll be interesting to see what else A-Rod comes up with.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    The Ravens are on a bye this week...let's get Steve Smith to SLC as the Celebrity Guest Picker.
    or Weddle. has he done it already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    One thing we can be sure of is that Washington will be ready for that counter play. It'll be interesting to see what else A-Rod comes up with.


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    Nah. They'll be expecting something different. Let's shake up their shakeup and just run the counter play.

    They'll never see it coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utah View Post
    Nah. They'll be expecting something different. Let's shake up their shakeup and just run the counter play.

    They'll never see it coming.
    Clearly, they should not choose to focus on the counter play. Only a fool would do that. Clearly, they are not fools. But we must know they are not fools. So clearly they must choose to focus on defending the counter play.

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    Random thoughts from last week's game:

    1. In all the superlatives about Rumblin Joe, one thing that has surprised me about him is how much better he is after contact now then he was at the start of this year. He'll never be Devontae Booker in this category, but he has become much better at gaining yards after contact. Still, he's valuable because of his homerun speed (see, e.g, UCLA), but he was devastatingly bad early on about the small 3 yarders; he was turning gains of three into a loss of one. Now, however, he's taking what the defense gives him and churning for yards. And then once he hits the second level, good bye! Really great to see him perform so well.

    2. UCLA was running their RB (olufumbelyea) into the flat with ZERO intent of throwing the ball to him. I mean, he was just running to the sidelines without ever looking back for the pass. They must have done this 20 times. I couldn't tell what they were trying to do, but my guess is they wanted Kavika L out of the play and they wanted Barton in isolation. If we'd switched and put Barton on the RB, my guess is they would have thrown to him or done a wheel route, but we never switched up. This is my big concern of the Washington game; Barton on UW's tight end.

    3. Injury report? Any information on Casey hughes who hurt his shoulder late? What about Domo? He was carried off the field and I didn't see him return.

    4. D-line: We got good pressure from the right side (Dimick) all game. We really miss Kylie Fitts. Is something wrong with Pita? He was invisible this game although he was out there for most of it. He needs to step it up; if he's not going to pressure the QB we might as well have a big guy that can hold down the edge.

    5. J Fogal: I thought he was oK, considering he's a former walk on taking over for all Pac M. Williams. He had two picks that were misthrown balls, but he had a few whiffs on tackles and more than a few passes in which he was too steps to late. I suspect a team would have more respect if Marcus was in there and not throw to Iese all game.

    6. O line: Big time game. Boilles and Asiata make for a mean left side. This is the first year in the Pac when I feel we have an above average O-line.

    7. Mokofisi's sack on the last drive of the game was a killer. Props to him, but that is a rookie mistake by Falafel to take that sack. Take grounding over the sack there.

    8. Andy has been less than atuomatic, but he had a really good game. Lots of 45+ tries and besides the first one I think he nailed them all.

    9. For all the hate that Arod and Harding get on here (looking at you Funk and HotLunch), the o-line dominated and the play-calling was great. This was a UCLA team that was supposedly great against the run, BUT WE HAD THE ALL-TIME RUSHING RECORD AGAINST THEM! (Not only a Utah record, it was the most yards Ucla has given up to one player, ever). I think they deserve a sincere apology and maybe a fruit basket from you guys.

    10. 7-1! (I can't stop thinking about what would have been if we had just executed vs Cal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Applejack View Post
    Random thoughts from last week's game:

    7. Mokofisi's sack on the last drive of the game was a killer. Props to him, but that is a rookie mistake by Falafel to take that sack. Take grounding over the sack there.
    Taking a grounding penalty would result in a 10 second run-off. Still might have worked to their advantage, but only by one play or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    I like all your points. I have nothing to add other than I think Domo came right back in a few plays later. I think it was a leg cramp.
    Yes Domo went out after first down and returned on third.


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    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    or Weddle. has he done it already?
    Steve Smith and Eric Weddle are the easy picks but I don't see either one of them doing it.
    Somebody has been keeping track https://gamedaycole.com/archival-picks/
    2003 - vs BYU - I don't believe there was a picker.
    2010 - vs TCU - Ty Burrell
    2015 - vs Cal - John Stockton
    2016 - My pick is Jerry Sloan. If his Parkinsons is too much then I'd have to go CJ Cron. The dude hit .325 this year with 16 home runs.

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    Ted Miller says the Huskies have a good but not great run defense. I can't post the link. The site won't let me. Sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Ted Miller says the Huskies have a good but not great run defense. I can't post the link. The site won't let me. Sorry.
    This seems to work (not sure it's what you were trying to link to):

    Pac-12 Heat check: Defining moment for Utah and Washington

    http://www.espn.com/blog/pac12/post/...t-check-week-8

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    I'm glad I wasn't the only person calling him Falafel during the game. During another game there was a player named Vallejo that when I first saw his jersey I thought it said Waffle Jo. (Another good nickname that hopefully isn't racist).

    Maybe I'm hungry during the game or something.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    I like all your points. I have nothing to add other than I think Domo came right back in a few plays later. I think it was a leg cramp.
    Domo was dancing with the fans at the end of the game. He looked fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Ted Miller says the Huskies have a good but not great run defense. I can't post the link. The site won't let me. Sorry.
    We need Moss. NEED him. Or Howard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    I like all your points. I have nothing to add other than I think Domo came right back in a few plays later. I think it was a leg cramp.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker Ute View Post
    I'm glad I wasn't the only person calling him Falafel during the game. During another game there was a player named Vallejo that when I first saw his jersey I thought it said Waffle Jo. (Another good nickname that hopefully isn't racist).

    Maybe I'm hungry during the game or something.


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    Someone on twitter is suggesting this as a GameDay sign. I like it!


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