The Repubs played hardball with the Merrick Garland nomination and they should expect the Dems to do the same now.Originally Posted by NorthwestUteFan
The Repubs played hardball with the Merrick Garland nomination and they should expect the Dems to do the same now.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
And so on and so on forever for all nominees and cabinet appointees. It's the new way of doing things.
Maybe we'll never appoint another supreme court justice, and one by one they will pass away until Clarence Thomas is the most powerful man in the USA and he finally has to say something during a case.
He already did. Your plan has failed.
http://www.npr.org/2016/02/29/468600...-quiet-justice
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Well, it will be funnier if Justice Ginsberg is the last one left. She's so little, it would be cute.
Actually now Kennedy is the most powerful, because he is the potential swing vote.
The Republicans never had to pay for that little stunt. The crazy thing is they could have easily defeated Garland in a full vote, but they didn't even allow him to come up for debate, let alone a floor vote. One man, McConnell, refused to even let the nomination come out of committee.
But nothing will come of it, because Democrats never play hardball. They always cave in. Most of them will end up voting for this candidate anyway.
This nominee is a huge fan of Scalia. It will be interesting to know whether he is as scholarly and bookish as Scalia, and will even follow precedent and the Constitution to make decisions that he personally dislikes, as did Scalia.
And like Scalia, I am sure he will choose to follow his faith over following the Constitution in certain areas (esp. abortion, LGBT rights).
Yeah, totally went against all those amendments about abortion and lgbt rights.
It is one thing to ask hard questions and another to attempt to block a vote. They won't do this, but the Dems should ask every question they deem necessary and then vote.
Until the Republicans just change the rules because the democrats want to ask more questions.
McConnell's comments alone are enough to tell me the powers that be in the Republican Party only care about their party agenda.
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I'm calling BS on this one. The rule was that at least one member of each party needs to be present for a vote. The Democrats abused that rule by boycotting sessions, attempting to block a vote. That is a childish, anti-democratic maneuver. Republicans changed the rules so that if people refused to show up to vote, they don't get to vote. Sounds like democracy to me.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
You're hilarious LA. The democrats refused to come because the republicans refused to allow more questioning of the candidates. Isn't that childish?
Of course if we really want to get to childish we only need to look at the president set by your favored party don't we?
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So this is where the discourse is now? "I know you are but what am I?".......sigh. I think these political threads have outlived their usefulness.
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"You never soar so high as when you stoop down to help a child or an animal." -- Jewish Proverb
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No not at all.
But the fact that republicans are suddenly upset with childishness and undemocratic behavior is a bit funny isn't it?
I don't fall to any party, I tend to lean more left on some things but vote for candidates of both parties.
I truly believe the two party system in the US is the biggest problem we have with our political system and process.
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If you are as non-partisan as you claim, you will acknowledge that the Democrats wanted to ask further questions only to continue a show in opposition to the EPA nominee. They did not have the right to ask more questions because they're not in the majority and got outvoted. That's legislation 101. So when they didn't get what they wanted, they decided to boycott the hearings in order to obstruct further action until they got their way. The party in the majority then changed the rules so that action can go forward without anyone from the opposing party present, as long as the opposing party members know the time and date of the hearing and intentionally decide not to show up. You called the Republicans asshats for doing that. To me it is just the rough and tumble of politics. Neither side is glorious in this situation. They're just doing the maneuvering involved in politics.
By the way, if you want to talk about precedent, Google "Reid rule" and "Biden rule" in the context of Senate confirmation of judicial nominees.
Last edited by LA Ute; 02-02-2017 at 01:47 PM.
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
--Yeats
“True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”
--John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell
And... LA nails it here. Rocker please admit to yourself that you are not nearly non-partisan.
Last edited by Devildog; 02-03-2017 at 08:31 AM.
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