So I think it is a stretch to call Gorsuch an objectionable nomination. The question is why would the democrats risk the nuclear option when they'll likely need it for another nominee in the future.
This seems like a poor strategy on the left's part.
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The Dems are working hard to take back the Senate in 2018, maybe 2020, which makes it easy to stonewall any new Trump appointees, ala the McConnell stonewall on Garland. Having the drama of a rules debate out of the way now, the confirmation vote can be quick and emphatic. Goes thru committee on whatever vote, goes to Senate, a debate could occur in a few hours, vote up or down, "Tell Trump to try again!" Nice, quick, clean, fast... government efficiency on steroids. Opposing presidents would need a bullpen of candidates.Originally Posted by Rocker Ute
If Dems have the WH and the Senate, the challenge will be how fast to get pick #1 through will minimal discussion, and possibly use that nifty Rule 19 to squelch any opposers who get frustrated and make a misstep in complaining, ala Elizabeth Warren.
It's a dangerous misstep by still flailing democrats based on presumptions. What happens 'if' they don't take back anything? We only need to look as far back as their presumptive nominee and how well that went for them, to know how easy it is to predict the future.
At some point, Trump will likely find a way to steady the ship. In fact, you could argue that has begun to happen with the ousting of Bannon, to whom he basically said: "You're fired." Trump is who he is. He was a moderate and democrat first, as was/is his son in-law and daughter, before they became born again republicans. Trumps lean right was a brilliant calculation that got him elected.
Also, the more news media and late night comedians go after him, the more he becomes entrenched as the under dog; the punchline that defied all odds and ended up, improbably, on top when confronted with his "one shining moment." His underdog status will always play well with the silent majority of "independent" US voters. Those that turned their nose's away from the stench of his behavior and voted for him. The same people he won't hesitate to fleece.
How many more justices will Trump need to replace is the real question? I'm happy with the Gorsuch nomination. He will be a brilliant addition to the Supreme Court. The Dems and liberals just don't seem to get it. You can't mercilessly mock and continue to condescend without their being consequences. Trump is that consequence, and his influence won't be fleeting.
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Justice Kennedy retires......
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mUUser's post prompted me to re-read your post.
Wow, how much has changed in a year - Bannon's gone but Trump's carrying his message to Europe, Alt-Right ideas are manifested by Trump's proposal to cut legal immigration in half, Miller is ascendant, the GOP has unquestionably become the POT, with free trade, fiscal responsibility and immigration all dramatically changed issues for people who previously were Republicans.
At the same time, the anti-Trump dynamic has intensified, and things look "murky". If Trump successfully makes Maxine Waters the poster child for anyone who opposes him...
… football season is coming up!
I agree that Trump hatred has intensified, but his approval rating keeps creeping up, slowly but surely. There's a ceiling to that, but I wonder how many "shy Tories" are being polled -- people who like what he's doing but won't admit it? People seem willing to separate the man's personal behavior from the results he gets -- i.e., the economy. Kind of like Bill Clinton, whose approval ratings were just fine during all his personal behavior troubles.
Anyway, serious, often visceral and unreasoning Trump hatred on the left getting worse -- and the Dems generally running to the left; plus serious Trump hero-worship among many on the other end of the spectrum, and a bunch of ambivalent people in the middle who find him repugnant but kind of like how things are going. Weird mix. Who knows what will happen? Not much good, I think.
Maxine Waters has been saying crazy things for decades. Nobody really cares.
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