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    The Baby Boomers have ruined everything

    So says this guy. He has some valid points that are hard to ignore.

    http://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/201...ng_Most_Viewed

    A giant generation of boomers can and does, and their overriding imperative is to consume at someone else’s expense. To say they succeeded is to understate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by U-Ute View Post
    So says this guy. He has some valid points that are hard to ignore.

    http://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/201...ng_Most_Viewed



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    lawn talk - why Americans are in love with their lawn?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/26/r...=pocket-newtab

    I've done some xeriscaping, and am ready to do more. I'm over with having to have the greenest lawn on the block.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorcho View Post
    lawn talk - why Americans are in love with their lawn?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/26/r...=pocket-newtab

    I've done some xeriscaping, and am ready to do more. I'm over with having to have the greenest lawn on the block.
    I didn't read it, but I can tell you why I'm in love with my lawn. Mowing the lawn for 30 minutes each week is 1,000 times easier and less time consuming than weeding. As a busy homeowner, I feel like my priority goal in landscaping projects is to cover as much of my dirt as possible with grass, wood, stone, or concrete. I definitely don't need the greenest lawn in town - I just don't want to have to weed for hours each day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    I didn't read it, but I can tell you why I'm in love with my lawn. Mowing the lawn for 30 minutes each week is 1,000 times easier and less time consuming than weeding. As a busy homeowner, I feel like my priority goal in landscaping projects is to cover as much of my dirt as possible with grass, wood, stone, or concrete. I definitely don't need the greenest lawn in town - I just don't want to have to weed for hours each day.
    On that note, I bought a Rachio sprinkler controller last year and it is great. It reduced my watering costs by about 30%, and that was in a very very dry summer. But basically it more than paid for itself the first year in reduced water costs and the 50% rebate the state offers if you buy one https://utahwatersavers.com/Program/6/smart-controller

    https://www.amazon.com/Rachio-Sprink...s%2C372&sr=8-4

    So right now you can get one for $75 after the rebate.

    Some cool things it does:

    You enter in each zone and describe what you are watering (ie grass or flower beds etc), soil conditions, slope, shade conditions etc. You put in your location and can even tie it to a weather station nearby you. Then it will just determine the best watering schedule for you and you let it go. If it rains, it will adjust the schedule, and it will also do things like not water when it is windy.

    It has an app, so you can see what you are saving and you can also easily turn on a zone (so for my kids who are small enough to still want to run through sprinklers it was kind of fun to turn it on from my phone versus go into my basement and mess with the old controller). Also, if you do turn on sprinklers it will account for that in the schedule so you don't really waste water.

    You can also connect it to Alexa or Siri and do voice commands, a novelty really, but kind of fun.

    I mentioned last year that as my favorite geek thing I purchased and it remains that.

    We have a lawn but that is because we have kids who like to go out and play, and we spend a lot of time on it. Xeriscaping is great but not practical for my family right now. We have spent a lot of time though planting drought tolerate plants and shrubs and reducing our consumption a lot.

    Side note: My property actually has a water share and irrigation that runs along the back of the lot. The share costs me $10/year. I always pay it, I've never used it because it is a hassle and the water is full of weeds. They have a schedule where you can irrigate but often it is like 10:30pm - 3am at night. But someday I would love to set up some sort of storage system that would filter out all of the crap and just use that. What a world if my watering costs for my yard went down to $10/year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker Ute View Post
    Xeriscaping is great but not practical for my family right now.
    Most xeriscaped lawns look pretty good at first, and then within a few years look good only in proportion to the amount of work put into them. One of my neighbers growing up in SLC xeriscaped decades ago. His lawn is now just a ragweed patch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Most xeriscaped lawns look pretty good at first, and then within a few years look good only in proportion to the amount of work put into them. One of my neighbers growing up in SLC xeriscaped decades ago. His lawn is now just a ragweed patch.
    I would love to xeriscape our front lawn, but we have a big maple tree that shades our house in the afternoon and evening in the summers, which probably saves a lot of A/C electricity. I don’t know how I would rake leaves from a xeriscaped surface in the fall.

    Our back yard yard will stay grass. Need a place for grandkids playing in the summertime.
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    this is fascinating to me. It probably doesn't have as big of an impact in Utah as other places (because of family size) but it sure seems like the new housing is gearing towards smaller and smaller homes.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/mill...roblems-2019-3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorcho View Post
    this is fascinating to me. It probably doesn't have as big of an impact in Utah as other places (because of family size) but it sure seems like the new housing is gearing towards smaller and smaller homes.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/mill...roblems-2019-3
    The Millenials can't afford those Boomer McMansions with real estate prices and student debt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorcho View Post
    this is fascinating to me. It probably doesn't have as big of an impact in Utah as other places (because of family size) but it sure seems like the new housing is gearing towards smaller and smaller homes.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/mill...roblems-2019-3
    I would much rather put my money into quality and location than square footage. I don't want any more square footage to clean than I already have, I want my kids to share rooms, and I hate commuting. I'm counter LDS culture in that way, and it means I end up in small wards with large boundaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    I would much rather put my money into quality and location than square footage. I don't want any more square footage to clean than I already have, I want my kids to share rooms, and I hate commuting. I'm counter LDS culture in that way, and it means I end up in small wards with large boundaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by U-Ute View Post
    The Millenials can't afford those Boomer McMansions with real estate prices and student debt.

    Related news.....

    https://www.ksl.com/article/46550005/report-utah-ranks-2nd-in-nation-for-rising-home-prices
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