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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    From my point of view, there is no point where it's permissible to treat others poorly. I've certainly broken that rule myself, but I don't feel good or justified about it.

    The two arguments I've seen attempting to justify this:

    (1) We've always had incivility. _______________ was uncivil (recently or 200 years ago). Why, then, should we be civil?

    and

    (2) There's never been a more grotesque president, and desperate times call for desperate measures. Basically, we need to fight fire with fire.

    I don't find either argument compelling, but I tend to see things from a christian point of view. Even from a strategic/political point of view, however, the restaurant owner hurt her own cause. She'd have served her cause (which is a good cause, I think) better by just giving that women her dinner.
    I also try to be civil. I admit, however, that I sometimes respond to uncivil or borish behavior with similar behavior. I try to avoid putting myself in those situations and that is why I do not attend Utah games at BYU.

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    I like this tweet:



    Should/will we start treating people in person the way we treat them online? Is it inevitable that we become what we are online?

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    And this is a big part of the current problem.

    https://mashable.com/2016/03/12/trum.../#jzeo.RRmriqd

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    I liked the point-counterpoint video in this story (disregard the Washington Post headline):

    Trump Country, it turns out, is more tolerant than the left


    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    I liked the point-counterpoint video in this story (disregard the Washington Post headline):

    Trump Country, it turns out, is more tolerant than the left

    It's a false equivalency to compare a few interrupted lunches with this type of thing that happens all the time.


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