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    2016 Trump Tower Meeting Looks Increasingly Like a Setup by Russian and Clinton Operatives

    https://www.realclearinvestigations....e_a_setup.html

    This looks far-fetched to me but it is from Real Clear Investigations, who are serious folks. I'm just posting the article as evidence of what an unholy mess all of this has become. As for its accuracy, I'll quote William Goldman the screenwriter: "Nobody knows anything."

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
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    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    2016 Trump Tower Meeting Looks Increasingly Like a Setup by Russian and Clinton Operatives

    https://www.realclearinvestigations....e_a_setup.html

    This looks far-fetched to me but it is from Real Clear Investigations, who are serious folks. I'm just posting the article as evidence of what an unholy mess all of this has become. As for its accuracy, I'll quote William Goldman the screenwriter: "Nobody knows anything."
    So Clinton and the Russians trapped the Trump Campaign with the political equivalent of a Honey Pot Trap?

    It doesn't really change the fact that Team Trump jumped at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by U-Ute View Post
    So Clinton and the Russians trapped the Trump Campaign with the political equivalent of a Honey Pot Trap?

    It doesn't really change the fact that Team Trump jumped at it.
    You're showing your cluelessness about the power of covfefe.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    You're showing your cluelessness about the power of covfefe.
    Oh I've seen it. My dad is under its power.

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    I'm enjoying watching Omarosa gain credibility with CNN now that she has turned on Trump. Amazing how that works.

    It is also amazing how numb we've become to this stuff. Maybe we should all step back for a minute and wonder why Trump would have hired her for a senior position in the first place. I think in a little over a year and a half he has made as many political missteps as all previous president combined, yet remains unaccountable for any of it, to the point where does anybody even pay attention or care any more? Pretty astounding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker Ute View Post
    I'm enjoying watching Omarosa gain credibility with CNN now that she has turned on Trump. Amazing how that works.

    It is also amazing how numb we've become to this stuff. Maybe we should all step back for a minute and wonder why Trump would have hired her for a senior position in the first place. I think in a little over a year and a half he has made as many political missteps as all previous president combined, yet remains unaccountable for any of it, to the point where does anybody even pay attention or care any more? Pretty astounding.
    He’s answered the why. In his tweets today he mentions her begging for a job. Mentions how everyone hated her, and how terrible she was. But says he told General Kelly to try and work things out “because she only GREAT things about me - until she got fired”

    He doesn’t care how qualified someone is. He cares about how they inflate and stroke his ego.




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    What doe you suppose George and Kellyanne Conway talk about at night?



    George Conway@gtconway3d 57m57 minutes agoMore



    George Conway Retweeted Philip Bump
    Interesting analogy. Likewise, what if a CEO routinely made false and misleading statements about himself, the company, and results, and publicly attacked business partners, company “divisions” (w/ scare quotes!), employees, and analysts, and kowtowed to a dangerous competitor?

    George Conway added,
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    How would the board of a company react if the CEO told them that he hadn't fired an unqualified employee who was disliked by coworkers because the employee constantly praised him?

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    Omarosa's tell-all book is a big fat zero, predictable as the sun rising in the east. (She's not well regarded by African Americans because she's a gold digging egoist who wanted fame & fortune on Trump's show before, then extended that it into real life where lots of African Americans have felt something far beyond marginalization).

    Recording Kelly in the Situation Room reveals a pretty loose operation.

    But it's her phone call with Trump the next day that reveals the most, by far:

    "I hadn't heard. They run a pretty big operation here. I didn't know" - Trump

    - the charitable view is Trump actually was aware, but couldn't man up and tell her she was fired, the guy who made "You're Fired!" a virtue among people who claim Jesus as their primary hero.

    - the more likely view is he really didn't know and his role is pretty much the carnival barker, "the Great Oz", and not much else. This explains McMaster's "he's a dope", Tillerson's "he's a f-ing moron", etc, but it also raises all kinds of other questions... like who's really running the show, in addition to Stephen Miller.

    For the record, I'm encouraged that senior cabinet officials crafted an agreement with NATO before Trump could announce we're withdrawing from NATO, or something like that. (This is along the lines of the encouraging words of the Air Force General that they're crafted policy on when they can "resist" an "illegal" nuclear strike order. The previously assumed "unthinkable" is getting some clarification.)

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