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    Life in the Trump Era, Part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    He is a narcissist and at bottom is a mobster. To him there isn't much difference between being a mobster and an autocrat. He can subvert democracy without being Caligula. LA Ute is just rationalizing.
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    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
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    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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    Omar bails out Trump

    Democrats used to be happily united in their opposition to Trump. It’s getting more complicated.

    By ELIANA JOHNSON and MELANIE ZANONA
    03/07/2019 07:22 PM EST

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...n-omar-1211798

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    Omar bails out Trump

    Democrats used to be happily united in their opposition to Trump. It’s getting more complicated.

    By ELIANA JOHNSON and MELANIE ZANONA
    03/07/2019 07:22 PM EST

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...n-omar-1211798
    I agree with Trump that the media fans many of the flames that divide the country. Of course, the finger-pointing politicians from both parties are the ones who primarily provide the fuel and the match. The Omar statement is one of those. I have a hard time viewing the statement that pro-Israel groups give money to politicians who take pro-Israel positions is an expression of anti-Semitism. I expect pro-Israel groups to give money to politicians who support pro-Israel positions just as I expect the NRA give money to politicians who oppose gun control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UTEopia View Post
    I agree with Trump that the media fans many of the flames that divide the country. Of course, the finger-pointing politicians from both parties are the ones who primarily provide the fuel and the match. The Omar statement is one of those. I have a hard time viewing the statement that pro-Israel groups give money to politicians who take pro-Israel positions is an expression of anti-Semitism. I expect pro-Israel groups to give money to politicians who support pro-Israel positions just as I expect the NRA give money to politicians who oppose gun control.
    I haven’t delved into this controversy much, but it seems the complaint is that she suggested divided loyalty among Jewish supporters of Israel. That’s clearly a hot-button issue. Even Rahm Emanuel wrote an op-es attacking her.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Jason Riley, Wall Street Journal:

    On Twitter, Mr. Trump criticized McCain for the 2017 breaking of his promise to support repeal of the Affordable Care Act and also for McCain’s role in circulating the unverified Steele dossier with its claims of Trump-Russia collusion.

    Mr. Trump tweeted that McCain embraced the dossier before the 2016 election when recent testimony suggests it was just after the election. Also, Mr. Trump claimed on Twitter that McCain finished last in his class at the U.S. Naval Academy when most reports indicate McCain actually finished fifth from the bottom.

    Let’s hope for more accuracy from the President in the future, but he and many other Americans seem to have every right to be angry. On Thursday Rowan Scarborough reported for the Washington Times:

    David Kramer, the then-Sen. John McCain aide who leaked the discredited Christopher Steele dossier on President Trump, testified in a libel case that he spread the unsubstantiated anti-Trump material all over Washington during the presidential transition.

    Mr. Kramer shared the Clinton-funded collection of unverified claims with numerous media outlets including BuzzFeed, which published it without verifying its contents. Mr. Scarborough continues:

    Mr. Steele, whose mission was to sink the Trump campaign and then his presidency, believed Mr. McCain’s involvement would give “the FBI additional prod to take this seriously,” Mr. Kramer testified.

    “I shared with [Mr. McCain] the document, and he took some time to review it, he asked me what I thought he should do, and I suggested that he provide a copy of it to the Director of the FBI and the Director of the CIA,” Mr. Kramer testified.

    Mr. McCain shared the document with the FBI’s then-director James Comey, who had already seen it, while McCain’s associate leaked it far and wide to the media. The litigation also reveals that according to Mr. Steele, one of his sources was nothing more than a viewer comment posted on CNN’s website. Mr. Scarborough reports:

    The libel lawsuit was brought by Russian businessman Aleksej Gubarev. Mr. Steele accused him of conducting the hacking into Democratic Party computers — a charge the Russian denied from the start.

    Mr. Steele said the charge came from unsolicited information and that he tried to verify it on an internet site called CNN iReport. Mr. Steele testified that he relied on an article on XBT, Mr. Gubarev’s firm, published on July 28, 2009.

    Mr. Steele was asked by Mr. Gubarev’s attorney, Evan Fray-Witzer, “Do you understand that they have no connection to any CNN reporters”?

    “I do not,” he answered.

    The attorney added, “Do you understand that CNN iReports are or were nothing more than any random individuals’ assertions on the internet?”

    Mr. Steele: “I obviously presume that if it is on a CNN site that it has some kind of CNN status.”

    The dossier did not even meet the journalistic standards of CNN?

    As for Mr. McCain’s oft-repeated pledge to eliminate the so-called Affordable Care Act, it was the key to extending his Senate career. “In fight of his political life, McCain hammers Obamacare,” said a Politico headline in 2016. The publication’s Jennifer Haberkorn and Theodoric Meyer reported at the time:

    John McCain is running for reelection like it’s 2010.

    The Arizona Republican has made his opposition to Obamacare — which dominated Senate races across the country six years ago — a central point of his campaign, by all accounts, the toughest reelection fight of his career.

    ... The issue helps him run to the right of his GOP primary opponent, while also taking a direct shot at his Democratic opponent, Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick, who called her 2010 vote for the law the one she’s “most proud about.”

    “I think it’s a very strong issue,” McCain told POLITICO about his focus on Obamacare.

    It turned out to be strong enough to get him re-elected, but not strong enough to make him keep his promise.

    As long as Americans remember the bravery of our military, they will recall the courage of John McCain during his captivity in the infamous “Hanoi Hilton” prison operated by the communist government of North Vietnam.

    But Americans should also recognize that Mr. McCain’s role in promoting unverified conspiracy theories generated by the President’s political opponents was not the late senator’s finest hour. And neither was his breaking of a signature campaign pledge.
    Disgusting behavior in opposition to a disgusting person. Hard to find anyone to cheer for in this situation.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    The only winner is Team Chaos.

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