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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    That would be an impeachable offense.
    We'd just add it to his list.

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    I finished Bob Woodward's Fear the other day. Anyone else read it yet? Anyone else plan to? I recommend it.

    I've read many of Woodward's books, particularly the four on Bush 43 and the two on Obama. The books are worth reading because of the amazing access the author gets, and if you go in with an open mind you are likely to find out that how you perceived the events being written about was not entirely accurate.
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    Elizabeth Warren releases results of DNA test - looks like she is correct in asserting Native American ancestry: https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/pol...SVO/story.html

    On the specific issue, this won't change the minds of partisans, but it bolster's Warren's stand-up-to-the-bully credentials, and besides creating a cottage industry of DNA deniers, it will prompt the Trump tribe to look elsewhere for ammunition, ie, she is a "shrill", "angry woman", etc.

    More than anything, this does signal that Warren is seriously considering a run. She doesn't have the baggage Hillary had, but in terms of who would be a first woman president (from the Dem tribe) I still think the nation needs some calm, rational leadership in the mold of Amy Klobuchar.

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    Elizabeth Warren releases results of DNA test - looks like she is correct in asserting Native American ancestry: https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/pol...SVO/story.html

    On the specific issue, this won't change the minds of partisans, but it bolster's Warren's stand-up-to-the-bully credentials, and besides creating a cottage industry of DNA deniers, it will prompt the Trump tribe to look elsewhere for ammunition, ie, she is a "shrill", "angry woman", etc.

    More than anything, this does signal that Warren is seriously considering a run. She doesn't have the baggage Hillary had, but in terms of who would be a first woman president (from the Dem tribe) I still think the nation needs some calm, rational leadership in the mold of Amy Klobuchar.
    These women both seem fine as far as political lifers from ivy league colleges go. Nothing special, but not disastrous. One would hope that we could do better, but one also knows we could do much worse. I don't think Klobuchar will run. Or, if she runs, I don't think she would secure the nomination. Just not famous/flashy enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ma'ake View Post
    Elizabeth Warren releases results of DNA test - looks like she is correct in asserting Native American ancestry: https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/pol...SVO/story.html

    On the specific issue, this won't change the minds of partisans, but it bolster's Warren's stand-up-to-the-bully credentials, and besides creating a cottage industry of DNA deniers, it will prompt the Trump tribe to look elsewhere for ammunition, ie, she is a "shrill", "angry woman", etc.

    More than anything, this does signal that Warren is seriously considering a run. She doesn't have the baggage Hillary had, but in terms of who would be a first woman president (from the Dem tribe) I still think the nation needs some calm, rational leadership in the mold of Amy Klobuchar.
    I think Trump's attacks on her with this are childish and disgraceful but the test also says she has a Native American in her ancestry from 6-10 generations back, most probably 8. That would make her 1/128th Native American at best and 1/512th most probably.

    I'm actually 1/128th Native American as well according to DNA tests and genealogical records.

    I'll bet many on this board can likely claim a similar pedigree.

    I would never claim to be Native American as she has on her professional bio in the past. I don't think this bolsters her claim like she thinks it does.

    I fear with all of the candidates who are coming out of the woodwork that they are assuring Trump a second term. I don't view Warren or Biden as people who will get people to rally and cross the aisle. Amy Klobuchar would be preferable to those two.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker Ute View Post
    I think Trump's attacks on her with this are childish and disgraceful but the test also says she has a Native American in her ancestry from 6-10 generations back, most probably 8. That would make her 1/128th Native American at best and 1/512th most probably.

    I'm actually 1/128th Native American as well according to DNA tests and genealogical records.

    I'll bet many on this board can likely claim a similar pedigree.

    I would never claim to be Native American as she has on her professional bio in the past. I don't think this bolsters her claim like she thinks it does.

    I fear with all of the candidates who are coming out of the woodwork that they are assuring Trump a second term. I don't view Warren or Biden as people who will get people to rally and cross the aisle. Amy Klobuchar would be preferable to those two.


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    My wife is 1/64th Native American and looks like Warren (blonde, blue-eyed). We have joked from time to time that she and our kids should try to benefit from that in some affirmative action manner, but we never got beyond joking about it. This news (1) proves Trump is a boor (dog bites man) and (2) still makes Warren look silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker Ute View Post
    Amy Klobuchar would be preferable to those two.
    Sure, she's like Kasich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    My wife is 1/64th Native American and looks like Warren (blonde, blue-eyed). We have joked from time to time that she and our kids should try to benefit from that in some affirmative action manner, but we never got beyond joking about it. This news (1) proves Trump is a boor (dog bites man) and (2) still makes Warren look silly.

    Not only that, but your wife hasn't tried to monetize it.

    http://www.latimes.com/local/califor...014-story.html

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    This made me laugh.

    Human DNA has more in common with a banana than Liz has with native American.It's just science. https://t.co/C09hiq7Fc2
    https://twitter.com/OrdyPackard/stat...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Life in the Trump Era, Part 2

    Apparently the Cherokee Nation thinks Elizabeth Warren's claims are as ridiculous as I do:

    http://www.cherokee.org/News/Stories...rrens-DNA-test

    The first leg up a presidential candidate will have with me is the one who can rise above the nonsense and show the ability to restore the respect and decorum to the office of President. I'm disturbed by the people who are stepping up among the Democrats, it resembles what happened with the republicans that lead to the rise of Donald Trump.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker Ute View Post
    The first leg up a presidential candidate will have with me is the one who can rise above the nonsense and show the ability to restore the respect and decorum to the office of President. I'm disturbed by the people who are stepping up among the Democrats, it resembles what happened with the republicans that lead to the rise of Donald Trump.
    No such candidate would ever make it through the primaries which are pwned by emotion.

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    No such candidate would ever make it through the primaries which are pwned by emotion.

    Brooks' recent column spoke about this. The elite, white civil war between the few most extreme conservatives and the few most extreme progressives is running the show.

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    Both of these are dead-on

    Garry Kasparov Retweeted

    And @Kasparov63 says the character that reminds him most of Putin is Tywin Lannister: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/book-party/wp/2015/01/28/garry-kasparov-on-his-next-book-and-why-vladimir-putin-is-like-tywin-lannister/?utm_term=.b65a603c1e9b …


    George R.R. Martin says the Game of Thrones character that most reminds him of Trump is Joffrey https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/16/t...f-thrones.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker Ute View Post
    Apparently the Cherokee Nation thinks Elizabeth Warren's claims are as ridiculous as I do:

    http://www.cherokee.org/News/Stories...rrens-DNA-test

    The first leg up a presidential candidate will have with me is the one who can rise above the nonsense and show the ability to restore the respect and decorum to the office of President. I'm disturbed by the people who are stepping up among the Democrats, it resembles what happened with the republicans that lead to the rise of Donald Trump.


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    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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