I'm sorry I'm a little behind but this will be the thread for this season which is now upon us.
Had some computer issues but all is good now.
I'll start with tonight's game Missouri and work my way back to get caught up, even though the first 2 games shouldn't really count.
For good measure...basketball efficiency is (Pts+Rebs+Asts+Blks+Stls) - (Turnovers +(Shots missed))
Welcome to the 2017-2018 season.
UTAH EFF +/- EFF MISSOURI Donnie Tillman 22 +8.3 12 Reed Nikko Gabe Bealer 14 +0.7 9 Kassius Robertson Jayce Johnson 14 -- 8 Jordan Geist Tyler Rawson 12 -6.3 7 Kevin Puryear Justin Bibbins 12 -0.7 6 Jordan Barnett David Collette 8 -5.7 5 Jontay Porter Sedrick Barefield 6 -7.0 5 Terrence Phillips Parker Van Dyke 1 -2.0 3 Blake Harris Chris Seeley 0 -8.0 0 Cullen VanLeer Jake Connor 0 -0.3 -2 Jeremiah Tilmon Mark Reininger 0 --
Kolbe Caldwell -1 -2.0
Donnie Tillman posted the first double-double of the season for the Utes, 13 points, 11 rebounds.
In the first two games Utah was allowing 9 steals per game and had 35 turnovers. Versus Missouri Utah allowed 2 steals and only 4 turnovers.
This was the first game all season Utah shot under 50% at 29/63 46%
Fouls were even at 20 but Utah gave up 12 more free throw attempts and 8 makes 10/13 vs 18/25.
Utah is only allowing 33.7% from the field, while shooting 49.2% as a team.
Utah had 15 more possessions than Missouri 71 to 56 due to the turnover difference.
Last edited by The Thrill; 11-16-2017 at 10:59 PM.
Good showing last night. I think we are gonna like this Tillman kid.
I think if you asked most serious fans to name our 3 best players, the top 3, in some order, would be Collette, Barefield, and Bibbins. For us to beat the crap out of Mizzou and have none of those 3 finish in the top 4 for efficiency bodes extremely well for this team.
It's funny you say that. Tyler Rawson is actually the most well rounded player on the team by the numbers...I'll explain later.Originally Posted by Scratch
Last edited by The Thrill; 11-17-2017 at 08:32 PM.
I'm assuming that must be based on this year's numbers and can be attributed to a small sample size. I can't imagine last year's numbers would have reflected that.
I rarely mention it either. But I am happy to see the stats breakdown you post. Very interesting stuff!
PLAYER PER +/- PLAYER PER RANK Tyler Rawson 26 +9.7 Malachi Flynn 20 #14 Justin Bibbins 20 +3.1 Robert Franks 18 #19 Sedrick Barefield 19 +11.4 Carter Skaggs 12
Gabe Bealer 15 +9.2 Drick Bernstine 10
Jayce Johnson 14 +4.4 Arinze Chidom 8
David Collette 9 -5.3 Kwinton Hinson 3
Chris Seeley 4 -1.8 Viont'e Daniels 2
Donnie Tillman 4 -8.5 Davante Cooper 0
Christian Popoola 1 +0.4 Jamar Ergas 0
Parker Van Dyke 0 -2.4 Milan Acquaah -1
Beau Rydalch 0 -1.0 Steven Shpreyregin -2
Jake Connor -1 -1.7 Jeff Polalrd -3
Kolbe Caldwell -4 -6.0
Barefield played with a chip on his shoulder, benching him worked.
PVD made the least out of his start.
My favorite stat. Assists to shot attempts. Utah got their 2nd highest for the year 34.9%. 22 assists 63 shots. (MSVST 36.4%)
Utah was +10 on assists and for the first time in a long time +8 on possessions. 2nd time in P12 play (Oregon +20)
For the season Utah averages -5.4 less possessions than their opponent.
Utah was -4 on turnovers, +4 on steals, +4 on blocks. All good things.
The 31 three point attempts was the 2nd time all year with 30+ three point attempts (ASU 36)
13 makes from deep tied the 2nd best for the season. MVST 13, Northwestern St 15
The Utes reached the 100 efficiency total for the 5th time this year. 1st in Pac12 play.
This was the 8th game a team has reached 100. 5 in Pac12.
There were only 26 fouls called (Utah 14 WAZZU 12)
Utah games average 37.7 fouls per game. Only the 3rd time all year under 30 fouls. (Oregon trip, both games)
The teams combined for 85% (season high combined) 17/20. Utah 9/10 WAZZU 8/10
Back to assists to shots. In Utah wins they are 29.4% of all shot attempts get an assist.
In Utah losses that number drops to 25%.
Assists drop from 16.8 in wins to 13.4 in losses
Only two categories improve in Utah losses . +0.5 more steals and +2.5 more personal fouls (not a good thing)
In Utah wins they rebound better. 37.9 rebounds per win. 27.6 rebounds per loss.
Obviously pass the ball and protect the glass and Utah wins. Easy enough?
The 26 PER from Rawson was the 5th best of the year. 8/10 FG, 6/7 from deep 6 rebounds
Bibbins reached double figures in assists for the first time all year. Currently averaging 4.5 assists (#1 on Utah)
Great win and confidence builder for next week. The Arizona trip. Don't be scared, they're both beatable.
I will not be providing a report on those games until next Sunday. 1 would be great, both would be better!
Taking the family to Disneyland for the week. I'll be the guy wearing Utah red standing in line for a chicken leg.
Go Utes
Next up...ASU, currently 3-4 and behind Utah in the standings.
ASU is 49th in FG%, 40th in 3pt%, 41st in scoring, 133rd in rebounding.
PLAYER PER +/- PLAYER PER RANK Tyler Rawson 21 +4.6 Tra Holder 28 6th Jayce Johnson 21 +11.1 Remy Martin 15
Justin Bibbins 14 -2.2 De'Quon Lake 13
Sedrick Barefield 13 +4.4 Shannon Evans II 11
Donnie Tillman 10 -1.7 Romello White 8
David Collette 8 -6.2 Mickey Mitchell 5
Gabe Bealer 6 +0.5 Vitaliy Shibel 4
Parker Van Dyke 1 -1.4 Kodi Justice 4
Kolbe Caldwell -1 -2.8 Kimani Lawrence -1
Utah shouldn't have won this game, but they did.
ASU played a better game overall but Utah shot a little bit better and that was the difference.
+4 on 3pt makes and +3.5% on shooting. Utah wins
Jayce Johnson, where have you been hiding that?
5/7 from the field. 6 rebounds, 3 blocks, 5/8 from the line
Ties his season high PER at 21 (@USC). 15 pts was a season high, hopefully he can follow that up at Arizona (psst...he doesn't)
Arizona State was +14 on possessions, that kept them in the game. +6 on offensive rebounds also.
ASU rebounded well. 91.4% of all defensive rebound opportunities were collected.
Utah is 2-7 when the other team gets a better efficiency score (at Oregon St -17)
Utah had 19 assists on 62 shots 30.6% which was above their season average of 27.8%
Utah is now 1-0 in overtime games this season
The Utes average 9.3 three's made, had 14 vs ASU (2nd to NWSt of 15). 2nd game in a row with +30 attempts from deep. Maybe this trend will continue vs Arizona (psst...it doesn't)
Utah had 2 blocks and have registered a block in 19/20 games (@BYU 0)
Utah allowed 70+ shots for only the 2nd time this year (NWSt 71)
Utah is now holding opponents to 32.9% from deep, they haven't allowed over 34% for the season yet.
Bring on the Wildcats, I'm hoping for a close one maybe 1-2 points with a controversial call at the end on Tillman.
Arizona
8th in fg%, 30th in 3pt %, 34th in scoring, 195th in rebounding.
PLAYER PER +/- PLAYER PER RANK Sedrick Barefield 24 +15.4 Dusan Ristic 29 5th David Collette 19 +4.8 Deandre Ayton 22 10th Tyler Rawson 14 -2.4 Allonzo Trier 17 24th Justin Bibbins 5 -11.2 Parker Jackson-Cartwright 15
Parker Van Dyke 4 +1.6 Brandon Randolph 7
Jayce Johnson 3 -6.9 Dylan Smith 1
Donnie Tillman 3 -8.7 Emmanuel Akot 1
Chris Seeley -1 -6.0 Keanu Pinder 0
Gabe Bealer -2 -7.5 Ira Lee 0
Well, Arizona is good. No doubt about that.
But this was there for the taking.
Utah had no business losing by 1, this had all the numbers to be an Arizona 15+ point win.
But Utah didn't give up and was +22 on possessions which kept them in the game.
Sad thing is Arizona only needed 67 possessions (season low for Utah opponent avg 90.1) and scored 47.4% of the time (avg is 35.0% )
This is a stat I haven't really touched on this year that I track. Percentage of outcomes per possession.
Utah allows 19.8% of all possessions to be a 2 point shot, Arizona was 28.3%
Utah allows 8.1% of all possessions to be a 3 point shot, Arizona was 14.9%
Turnovers hurt Arizona.
Utah creates a turnover on 13.6% of possessions, Arizona had 22.3% (first time over 20% for Utah opponent)
Sloppy Arizona offense, tough Utah defense gave Utah a shot.
Rustic killed Utah. 9/11 from the field, 3/3 from deep (he's 7'0" BTW) 7 boards, 2 blocks.
Arizona shot 64.4% for the game, and won by 1. +20% in field goals.
Utah was +9 on shot attempts but -18.1% on assists to shots. -6 on assists
Utah was +7 on turnovers, highest difference in a loss. Vs UNLV the Utes were +4
Utah was -7 on fouls, in the good way. Utah going 18/21 from the line helped a lot too.
Season FT% is now back above 77% (high was 79.3% after the Utah State 19/22 game)
Utah is knocking on the door of their season high from deep. Currently at 36.5%, season high 36.7% after the home Arizona game when they went 12/26.
Utah has only been positive on possessions twice in Pac12 play (At Oregon and at Arizona)
Utah was -5 on blocks, only the second time (BYU) they've allowed worse than 3 more blocks.
Utah opponents are now at 33.9% from deep on the season, the highest Utah has allowed all year (low 21.9% after Missouri went 5/25)
This was a heartbreaker but no moral trophies. Utah needed this win.
Next up, 1 game week at Colorado on Friday
Colorado is 173rd in shooting. 180th from three. 153rd in scoring and 65th in rebounding
Utah is 140th in shooting. 108th from three. 191st in scoring and 239th in rebounding.
Yikes!
PLAYER PER +/- PLAYER PER RANK Tyler Rawson 10 -6.1 McKinley Wright IV 24 8th Jayce Johnson 10 +0.1 George King 16 29th Gabe Bealer 7 +1.5 Dominique Collier 15
David Collette 6 -7.8 Lucas Siewert 11
Justin Bibbins 5 -10.7 D'Shawn Schwarts 7
Chris Seeley 4 -0.9 Tyler Bey 5
Parker Van Dyke 4 +1.5 Dallas Walton 3
Sedrick Barefield 3 -5.4 Deleon Brown 3
Jakub Jokl 2 +0.3 Lazar Nikolic -1
Kolbe Caldwell 0 -1.7 AJ Martinka -1
Donnie Tillman -1 -11.9 Josh Repine -1
Christian Popoola -1 -1.5 Alexander Strating -1
First off, Parker Van Dyke played well. I thought his defense was good, he made some good passes and finally hit some open shots.
He has such a sweet stroke if his confidence builds that just adds one more threat.
Now, everybody else.
Collette only had 16 minutes and 0 fouls. He was a bad matchup on Bey. The freshman was just too fast for David.
FYI - Collette led the team in scoring with 8 points.
Utah ran small all night. Bealer, Rawson, Barefield, Bibbins, PVD and Johnson got a majority of the minutes.
The two teams combined for 42/108 shooting at 38.9%, 3rd worst of the season (NWSt 36.6%, Washington 38% )
Two players scored a 10 PER...that's just not going to win games. Top teams have 1-2 in the 20 PER score and at least 3 over 15.
This was actually a close game by the numbers across the board except for shooting. Utah was +6 on shot attempts and -2 on makes.
Shooting percentage was +8.0% for Colorado, 4th worst difference for Utah game. 0-4 in those games. Utah is 2-7 when they shoot worse than their opponent.
Bibbins is 4/20 in the last two games and 9/33 in the last 3. 1/11 from deep in the last 2 games. He's coming back to Earth.
Utah turnovers were ok, only +1.8 over average. Fouls were good at -2.4 off average.
Last two games Utah is 14/42 from deep 33% (season avg is 36.3% )
Utah could have drawn more fouls and picked up more offensive boards, that would've helped a lot.
Utah collected 9.8% of all offensive rebound opportunities and allowed Colorado to grab 78% of all defensive rebounds.
On the defensive boards Utah has done a great job the past two games. Only giving up 6 offensive rebounds (2 Arizona, 4 Colorado) season average is 9.9.
This was mostly because Arizona didn't miss but for the Colorado game Utah did a great job. Collecting 94% of all defensive rebounding opportunities.
Overall this was an ugly game. 39% shooting overall. 15 steals. Assist to shot was a combined 23% of all shots got an assist (actually not terrible, season avg is 23.7% ) but for Pac12 play the average is up around 26%.
Colorado went on a 12-0 run to end the 1st half and start the second half. Ballgame.
FYI - When your team leader for the game goes 2/8 that's a bad game.
Utah has a full week to prepare for Stanford and Cal is just terrible. Utah could go 3-1 over the next 4 games with a possible sweep...depending on which Washington team shows up.
Next up...Stanford.
Stanford is 91st in shooting %, 159th in 3pt %, 118th in scoring and 77th in rebounding.
Last edited by The Thrill; 02-03-2018 at 10:49 AM.
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