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    2017-2018 NCAA Basketball

    Put all the goings on of NCAA basketball here.
    "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

    "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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    VCU/UVa is on right now in the 2nd half, and VCU just cut a 10 point lead to two.

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    Woof. Huskies are getting whipped by Va Tech. I'm sure there is a joke in there somewhere.

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    Some good games to watch at work today:

    Marquette/VCU at 12:30
    Wichita St/Cal at 2:30

    And some for home:

    UCLA/Creighton at 5:00
    Texas A&M/Okie St at 5:00
    Baylor/Wisconsin at 7:30
    Michigan/LSU at 9:00
    UNC/Stanford at 9:30

    Get yer fill this week because college basketball takes a month off in Dec before good games return in Jan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Some good games to watch at work today:

    Marquette/VCU at 12:30
    Wichita St/Cal at 2:30

    And some for home:

    UCLA/Creighton at 5:00
    Texas A&M/Okie St at 5:00
    Baylor/Wisconsin at 7:30
    Michigan/LSU at 9:00
    UNC/Stanford at 9:30

    Get yer fill this week because college basketball takes a month off in Dec before good games return in Jan.
    UCLA goes down to Creighton.

    Mizzou is up by 2 over Emporia State late in the 2nd half. I think Missouri is just not good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    UCLA goes down to Creighton.

    Mizzou is up by 2 over Emporia State late in the 2nd half. I think Missouri is just not good.
    Cal choked their game away as well. They were up big on the Shockers and eventually gave it away.
    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    Big night for basketball fans. UNC vs MSU. A&M vs USC. Duke vs Florida.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    UCLA goes down to Creighton.

    Mizzou is up by 2 over Emporia State late in the 2nd half. I think Missouri is just not good.
    Mizzou loses by 4 to #23 ranked West Va.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Standing ute View Post
    Mizzou loses by 4 to #23 ranked West Va.
    Did Porter Jr play?

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    Gonzaga loses to Villanova in their last meaningful basketball game until March.

    Crazy. How does Few convince these guys that an annual hibernation is a good idea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Gonzaga loses to Villanova in their last meaningful basketball game until March.

    Crazy. How does Few convince these guys that an annual hibernation is a good idea?
    Why does the big10 play conference games right now? Then they go back to non conference until January

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    "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

    "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
    Why does the big10 play conference games right now? Then they go back to non conference until January

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    "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

    "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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    For those of you in the know, what's the best way to purchase NCAA tournament tickets? I'm looking at Boise for 1st/2nd round games but not sure where to look. A guick google search and I just get more confused. Are prices per game? per day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snafu View Post
    For those of you in the know, what's the best way to purchase NCAA tournament tickets? I'm looking at Boise for 1st/2nd round games but not sure where to look. A guick google search and I just get more confused. Are prices per game? per day?
    Prices are per session. There are 3 sessions, of 2 games each. 2 sessions on the first day, one session on the 2nd day. You can buy a full session package if you buy early enough, or can find someone selling on the secondary market.

    You'll probably have to buy from the secondary market at this point. They usually go on sale 8 months in advance, and sell out pretty quickly. Not sure what the best secondary market would be in Boise, other than Stubhub.
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    The end of the UVA game last night was one for the ages. Down by 4 with 0.9 sec left, and they came back to beat Louisville. In fact, they scored 8 points in the final 7 seconds.

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    Lots of bubble teams picking up big wins today all around the country. I'll be interested to see what the projections look like heading into league tournaments (Sans the Big 10).
    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    Quadrant records for teams on the bubble.

    NEXT FOUR OUT
    Utah 19-10 Mississippi St - 20-10 Marquette - 18-12 Notre Dame 17-13
    Q1 - 3-5 .375 Q1 - 3-7 .300 Q1 - 4-7 .364 Q1 - 2-8 .200
    Q2 - 4-4 .500 Q2 - 3-3 .500 Q2 - 4-3 .571 Q2 - 4-2 .667
    Q3 - 6-1 .857 Q3 - 6-0 1.000 Q3 - 4-2 .667 Q3 - 5-3 .625
    Q4 - 6-0 1.000 Q4 - 8-0 1.000 Q4 - 6-0 1.000 Q4 - 6-0 1.000




    FIRST FOUR OUT
    UCLA 20-10 Penn State 21-12 Nebraska 22-10 Washington 20-11
    Q1 - 3-7 .300 Q1 - 3-8 .273 Q1 - 1-6 .143 Q1 - 3-7 .300
    Q2 - 5-1 .833 Q2 - 2-2 .500 Q2 - 2-3 .400 Q2 - 2-3 .400
    Q3 - 6-2 .750 Q3 - 6-2 .750 Q3 - 9-1 .900 Q3 - 8-1 .889
    Q4 - 6-0 1.000 Q4 - 10-0 1.000 Q4 - 10-0 1.000 Q4 - 7-0 1.000




    LAST FOUR IN
    Providence 19-10 Louisville 19-12 USC 21-10 Texas 18-13
    Q1 - 3-8 .273 Q1 - 3-10 .231 Q1 - 4-6 .400 Q1 - 4-10 .286
    Q2 - 5-1 .833 Q2 - 1-2 .333 Q2 - 5-3 .625 Q2 - 4-3 .571
    Q3 - 7-0 .800 Q3 - 9-0 1.000 Q3 - 6-0 1.000 Q3 - 5-0 1.000
    Q4 - 4-1 .800 (lost to UMass 243) Q4 - 7-0 1.000 Q4 - 6-1 .857 (lost at home to Princeton 221) Q4 - 5-0 1.000




    QUESTIONABLES
    Arizona State 20-10
    Q1 - 3-5 .375
    Q2 - 4-4 .500
    Q3 - 8-1 .889
    Q4 - 5-0 1.000

    Taking a look at those numbers Utah is the 2nd best Quadrant 1 team in the group behind USC
    Utah ranks 6th for quadrant 2
    Utah ranks 7th for quadrant 3 (Just the UNLV game keeping them from 7-0)
    Utah ranks 1st for quadrant 4 (USC and Providence getting in with +220 RPI losses is sickening)

    Let me know if there are other teams you'd like me to pull a report on.

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    They do this quadrant stuff to de-emphasize the RPI, which everyone knows is flawed. The quadrants are defined based on RPI, though, so it's just a cosmetic difference.

    Just grab some kenpom, sagarin etc, and be done with it.

    Of course, our RPI is elevated this season, so don't change until next year. In a sense, we gamed the RPI system this year. Kenpom has us at #61.

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    Here's what #1 seeds look like

    Virginia 28-2 Kansas 24-7 Xavier 27-4 Villanova 27-4
    Q1 - 9-1 .900 Q1 - 10-3 .769 Q1 - 6-3 .667 Q1 - 8-3 .727
    Q2 - 4-1 .800 Q2 - 8-3 .727 Q2 - 9-1 .900 Q2 - 7-0 1.000
    Q3 - 10-0 1.000 Q3 - 2-1 .667 (Home vs Oklahoma St) Q3 - 8-0 1.000 Q3 - 8-1 .889 (Home vs St Johns)
    Q4 - 5-0 1.000 Q4 - 4-0 1.000 Q4 - 4-0 1.000 Q4 - 4-0 1.000

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Thrill View Post
    Virginia 28-2 Kansas 24-7 Xavier 27-4 Villanova 27-4
    Q1 - 9-1 .900 Q1 - 10-3 .769 Q1 - 6-3 .667 Q1 - 8-3 .727
    Q2 - 4-1 .800 Q2 - 8-3 .727 Q2 - 9-1 .900 Q2 - 7-0 1.000
    Q3 - 10-0 1.000 Q3 - 2-1 .667 (Home vs Oklahoma St) Q3 - 8-0 1.000 Q3 - 8-1 .889 (Home vs St Johns)
    Q4 - 5-0 1.000 Q4 - 4-0 1.000 Q4 - 4-0 1.000 Q4 - 4-0 1.000
    Kansas has lost twice to Okie State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Thrill View Post
    NEXT FOUR OUT
    Utah 19-10 Mississippi St - 20-10 Marquette - 18-12 Notre Dame 17-13
    Q1 - 3-5 .375 Q1 - 3-7 .300 Q1 - 4-7 .364 Q1 - 2-8 .200
    Q2 - 4-4 .500 Q2 - 3-3 .500 Q2 - 4-3 .571 Q2 - 4-2 .667
    Q3 - 6-1 .857 Q3 - 6-0 1.000 Q3 - 4-2 .667 Q3 - 5-3 .625
    Q4 - 6-0 1.000 Q4 - 8-0 1.000 Q4 - 6-0 1.000 Q4 - 6-0 1.000




    FIRST FOUR OUT
    UCLA 20-10 Penn State 21-12 Nebraska 22-10 Washington 20-11
    Q1 - 3-7 .300 Q1 - 3-8 .273 Q1 - 1-6 .143 Q1 - 3-7 .300
    Q2 - 5-1 .833 Q2 - 2-2 .500 Q2 - 2-3 .400 Q2 - 2-3 .400
    Q3 - 6-2 .750 Q3 - 6-2 .750 Q3 - 9-1 .900 Q3 - 8-1 .889
    Q4 - 6-0 1.000 Q4 - 10-0 1.000 Q4 - 10-0 1.000 Q4 - 7-0 1.000




    LAST FOUR IN
    Providence 19-10 Louisville 19-12 USC 21-10 Texas 18-13
    Q1 - 3-8 .273 Q1 - 3-10 .231 Q1 - 4-6 .400 Q1 - 4-10 .286
    Q2 - 5-1 .833 Q2 - 1-2 .333 Q2 - 5-3 .625 Q2 - 4-3 .571
    Q3 - 7-0 .800 Q3 - 9-0 1.000 Q3 - 6-0 1.000 Q3 - 5-0 1.000
    Q4 - 4-1 .800 (lost to UMass 243) Q4 - 7-0 1.000 Q4 - 6-1 .857 (lost at home to Princeton 221) Q4 - 5-0 1.000




    QUESTIONABLES
    Arizona State 20-10
    Q1 - 3-5 .375
    Q2 - 4-4 .500
    Q3 - 8-1 .889
    Q4 - 5-0 1.000

    Taking a look at those numbers Utah is the 2nd best Quadrant 1 team in the group behind USC
    Utah ranks 6th for quadrant 2
    Utah ranks 7th for quadrant 3 (Just the UNLV game keeping them from 7-0)
    Utah ranks 1st for quadrant 4 (USC and Providence getting in with +220 RPI losses is sickening)

    Let me know if there are other teams you'd like me to pull a report on.
    We also played fewer Q1 games than any other team out there besides Nebraska, whose situation is much like ours -- good conference finish, lousy non-con, few quality wins.

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    I think all of this is academic, b/c Collette's ankle injury looked severe enough to me that I would be shocked if he played this week, esp. consecutive days. Or next week for that matter. Hope I'm wrong.

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    Gonzaga is the Little School That Could. It is hard to think of the biggest private school in the country, with relatively unlimited resources, fill that same niche.

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    The Aggies take out Boise St.
    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    Mawien with 29 pnts vs Kansas today.

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    USC doesn't make the tournament, and ASU does. It's funny, but it's also completely insulting to the Pac-12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    USC doesn't make the tournament, and ASU does. It's funny, but it's also completely insulting to the Pac-12.
    Or maybe it's the cold water in the face this league needs to step its game up.

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    ASU in, USC out.

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    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    Watching the championship game tonight does leave me feeling a little wistful. I was there in San Antonio on that night 20 years ago.

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