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    GOP tax cuts & young families on the endangered species list

    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    You're just looking at raw numbers of executive orders. I'm not going to do an analysis but I'll wager that measured qualitatively he's very high on the list. I.e., what was the scope of his order? How much money did they involve, how many people did they affect, how often did final judgments of a court overturn them? For example, it's hard to think of an EO more breathtaking than Obama's on immigration, which was plainly unconstitutional.

    Here's the NY Times' take, not just on executive orders, but regulation:





    Any Republican president after Obama was going to issue lots of EOs to counteract those regulations.
    Once again we can count on LA to defend the president he supposedly doesn’t like 😉

    That being said, you know Trump is all bluster and propaganda, regardless of whether it’s correct or not.

    Trump is on record blasting Obama for the sheer number of EO’s, yet he’s issued more than any first term president in 40 years.

    Trump does this stuff with most everything. Be it EO’s or playing golf.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Diehard Ute View Post
    Because it’s not true. Obama actually has the lowest average EO rate of any POTUS since Grover Cleveland’s second term


    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/orders.php




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    Good pickup. I stand corrected. I guess his comments about using executive to the fullest extent possible didn't mean issuing tons of them, but instead meant pushing his authority as much as possible through them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diehard Ute View Post
    Once again we can count on LA to defend the president he supposedly doesn’t like 

    That being said, you know Trump is all bluster and propaganda, regardless of whether it’s correct or not.

    Trump is on record blasting Obama for the sheer number of EO’s, yet he’s issued more than any first term president in 40 years.

    Trump does this stuff with most everything. Be it EO’s or playing golf.
    I don't care about defending Trump, I was talking about Obama. I don't like it when misinformation gets spread about Obama. I note that you ignored the NY Times piece and launched into an attack on Trump instead. Easy target.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UTEopia View Post
    Why didn't the GOP reduce the charitable giving deduction from 50% of adjusted taxable income to something like 20%? IMO, the charitable giving deduction is the deduction most abused by the ultra wealthy. Little guys who give 10% to their Church or to the Red Cross are fine. It's the big guys who find ways to give to one another's foundation or closer to home give to a University only to get a contract back, are the ones who really benefit from this deduction.
    Just like the $12M "donation" made to the UU Hospital a few years ago that turned into a $13M order for goods from said donor. (Details elsewhere on this site, I am quoting numbers from memory)

    That stinks of money laundering, and the donor also took a tidy deduction as well.

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    Are you guys who are unhappy with conservative policies, and especially those who are sick of the crazy Utah legislature, should consider moving to California. You’ll find a haven here. Yes, it’s a little expensive, but the weather is great. Look at the direction things are going.

    For Democrats in California, a generational shift pulls the party left, with danger and opportunity ahead

    http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-p...522-story.html
    Last edited by LA Ute; 02-05-2018 at 07:47 PM.

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