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    Sam the Sheepdog LA Ute's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Two Utes View Post
    Here's the thing LA, by bringing stupid comments like this into this board, you are bringing a stupid and idiot take into our lives that is designed to antagonize. That's a bad thing for you to to do. I come here for discussion; not to get antagonized. I unfollow people who do this on my twitter feed.
    Sorry. I just thought it was a manifestation of the craziness we are all looking at. I doubt many people share her belief. I probably should not have posted that, and I will avoid inflammatory stuff in the future. Thanks for pointing that out.

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    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    Sorry. I just thought it was a manifestation of the craziness we are all looking at. I doubt many people share her belief. I probably should not have posted that, and I will avoid inflammatory stuff in the future. Thanks for pointing that out.
    On the one hand, it was inflammatory, certainly a subjective topic for most/all of us, here.

    On the other hand, how many people may be (at least partially) sympathetic to that sentiment?

    My sense is the "equilibrium" is rapidly being dissolved (probably for the better) but what will be the new consensus? The idiotic behavior we're hearing about *should* be banned from civilized society.

    Depending on how far the corrective move is, I'll bet some strident feminists will feel vindicated... until a son comes home, fired from his job because he looked at some girl's butt. Or when some women are fired/punished for oogling a construction worker at their workplace, and a male coworker feels "objectified".

    In my previous position, I was doing some work in the UK where we had a corporate office. A young guy, his desk in an open office, had as his screen saver a bunch of photos of topless women. None of the female coworkers objected, they didn't think it was anything to be concerned about, like the tabloid "page 3 girls" everyone saw on a daily basis. I thought this was an interesting topic, vis-à-vis our corporate headquarters sexual harassment policy. Mostly out of curiosity, I mentioned the topic to the office manager, whose response was "don't push your American values on us!"

    ("Still bitter over 1776?", I mused.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ma'ake View Post
    On the one hand, it was inflammatory, certainly a subjective topic for most/all of us, here.

    On the other hand, how many people may be (at least partially) sympathetic to that sentiment?

    My sense is the "equilibrium" is rapidly being dissolved (probably for the better) but what will be the new consensus? The idiotic behavior we're hearing about *should* be banned from civilized society.

    Depending on how far the corrective move is, I'll bet some strident feminists will feel vindicated... until a son comes home, fired from his job because he looked at some girl's butt. Or when some women are fired/punished for oogling a construction worker at their workplace, and a male coworker feels "objectified".

    In my previous position, I was doing some work in the UK where we had a corporate office. A young guy, his desk in an open office, had as his screen saver a bunch of photos of topless women. None of the female coworkers objected, they didn't think it was anything to be concerned about, like the tabloid "page 3 girls" everyone saw on a daily basis. I thought this was an interesting topic, vis-à-vis our corporate headquarters sexual harassment policy. Mostly out of curiosity, I mentioned the topic to the office manager, whose response was "don't push your American values on us!"

    ("Still bitter over 1776?", I mused.)
    Nevermind. I probably misread what you were saying.

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    Last edited by LA Ute; 11-30-2017 at 06:30 AM.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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