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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    That’s a good one, but I am looking for something Peter Fonda level.
    I googled around and found a few (see below). Not sure how old some of them are, and haven't fact checked any, but thought some were funny. LA Ute, threw in a couple Romney ones and a Hatch one just for you. I know that if I wanted to spend the time, just between Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Sanders, and other pundits, there is a treasure trove of dumb quotes made in 2018.


    “Exercise freaks are the ones putting stress on the health care system.” ~ Rush Limbaugh


    “Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society.” ~ Rush Limbaugh


    “Good Christians, like slaves and soldiers, ask no questions.” ~ Jerry Falwell


    “Grown men should not be having sex with prostitutes unless they are married to them.” ~ Jerry Falwell


    “[America has to import so many workers because] for the last 35 years we have aborted more than a million people who would have been in our workforce.” ~ Mike Huckabee


    “I would not say that the future is necessarily less predictable than the past. I think the past was not predictable when it started.” ~ Donald Rumsfeld


    “My grandmother was not a highly educated woman, but she told me as a small child to quit feeding stray animals. You know why? Because they breed. You’re facilitating the problem if you give an animal or a person ample food supply. They will reproduce, especially ones that don’t think too much further than that. And so what you’ve got to do is you’ve got to curtail that type of behavior. They don’t know any better. ~ Andre Bauer


    “The only way to reduce the number of nuclear weapons is to use them.” ~ Rush Limbaugh


    “The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.” ~ Pat Robertson


    “Juarez is reported to be the most dangerous city in America.” ~ Rick Perry


    “I had other priorities in the sixties than military service.” ~ Dick Cheney


    “I will tell you that I had a mother last night come up to me here in Tampa, Florida, after the debate. She told me that her little daughter took that vaccine, that injection, and she suffered from mental retardation thereafter.” ~ Michele Bachmann


    “I feel the best way to ensure Americans’ freedom is to tighten restrictions on that freedom in any way possible. Only through wiretaps, illegal searches and seizures, unfettered government intrusion, a controlled media and a complete crackdown on free speech can we ensure the liberties of all people.” ~ John Ashcroft


    “The greatest threat to America is not necessarily a recession or even another terrorist attack. The greatest threat to America is a liberal media bias.” ~ Rep. Lamar Smith


    “Carbon dioxide is portrayed as harmful. But there isn’t even one study that can be produced that shows that carbon dioxide is a harmful gas.” ~ Rep. Michele Bachmann


    “I should tell my story. I’m also unemployed.” ~ Mitt Romney


    “I saw the young man over there with eggs Benedict, with hollandaise sauce. And I was going to suggest to you that you serve your eggs with hollandaise sauce in hubcaps. Because there’s no plates like chrome for the hollandaise.” ~ Mitt Romney


    “Capital punishment is our way of demonstrating the sanctity of life.” ~ Orrin Hatch

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    Romney for the win with his lame hollandaise joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyUte View Post
    I googled around and found a few (see below). Not sure how old some of them are, and haven't fact checked any, but thought some were funny. LA Ute, threw in a couple Romney ones and a Hatch one just for you. I know that if I wanted to spend the time, just between Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Sanders, and other pundits, there is a treasure trove of dumb quotes made in 2018.


    “Exercise freaks are the ones putting stress on the health care system.” ~ Rush Limbaugh


    “Feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society.” ~ Rush Limbaugh


    “Good Christians, like slaves and soldiers, ask no questions.” ~ Jerry Falwell


    “Grown men should not be having sex with prostitutes unless they are married to them.” ~ Jerry Falwell


    “[America has to import so many workers because] for the last 35 years we have aborted more than a million people who would have been in our workforce.” ~ Mike Huckabee


    “I would not say that the future is necessarily less predictable than the past. I think the past was not predictable when it started.” ~ Donald Rumsfeld


    “My grandmother was not a highly educated woman, but she told me as a small child to quit feeding stray animals. You know why? Because they breed. You’re facilitating the problem if you give an animal or a person ample food supply. They will reproduce, especially ones that don’t think too much further than that. And so what you’ve got to do is you’ve got to curtail that type of behavior. They don’t know any better. ~ Andre Bauer


    “The only way to reduce the number of nuclear weapons is to use them.” ~ Rush Limbaugh


    “The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.” ~ Pat Robertson


    “Juarez is reported to be the most dangerous city in America.” ~ Rick Perry


    “I had other priorities in the sixties than military service.” ~ Dick Cheney


    “I will tell you that I had a mother last night come up to me here in Tampa, Florida, after the debate. She told me that her little daughter took that vaccine, that injection, and she suffered from mental retardation thereafter.” ~ Michele Bachmann


    “I feel the best way to ensure Americans’ freedom is to tighten restrictions on that freedom in any way possible. Only through wiretaps, illegal searches and seizures, unfettered government intrusion, a controlled media and a complete crackdown on free speech can we ensure the liberties of all people.” ~ John Ashcroft


    “The greatest threat to America is not necessarily a recession or even another terrorist attack. The greatest threat to America is a liberal media bias.” ~ Rep. Lamar Smith


    “Carbon dioxide is portrayed as harmful. But there isn’t even one study that can be produced that shows that carbon dioxide is a harmful gas.” ~ Rep. Michele Bachmann


    “I should tell my story. I’m also unemployed.” ~ Mitt Romney


    “I saw the young man over there with eggs Benedict, with hollandaise sauce. And I was going to suggest to you that you serve your eggs with hollandaise sauce in hubcaps. Because there’s no plates like chrome for the hollandaise.” ~ Mitt Romney


    “Capital punishment is our way of demonstrating the sanctity of life.” ~ Orrin Hatch
    I think Michele Bachman wins the chicken dinner -- twice!

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    That’s a good one, but I am looking for something Peter Fonda level.
    See: Alex Jones.

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    There is no way that the Ashcroft quote is real.

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    There is no way that the Ashcroft quote is real.
    "Some of these quotes are made up." -Abraham Lincoln


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    Snowflake conservatives getting bent about Rashida Tlaib is rich.

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    I thought the O-Cortez dance video was charming.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Sure, so did everyone else. But there is some set of people out there convinced that half the nation is completely outraged over it.
    Millions of Americans on both ends of the political spectrum need to lighten up.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Senator Tim Scott Excoriates the GOP For Being Silent on Rep. Steve King & Racism in Blistering Op-Ed

    https://www.redstate.com/kimberly_ro...-racism-op-ed/

    I think Sen. Scott must be applauded. (Red State is a pretty conservative site that I rarely read.) I hope that here we don’t go down the path of beating up on all Republicans as racist, the GOP as a racist party, etc. It’s great that Scott is saying this. There should be no home for racism and leaders like him help make that the case.

    I stipulate, BTW, than Trump is a tone-deaf idiot on race. So maybe we can talk about this without endless discussion of something everyone already knows.

    Also, here’s National Review and the influential Jonah Goldberg on the same issue:

    Steve King’s Bigotry Is the Antithesis of American Ideals

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/...erican-ideals/

    It was William F. Buckley in the 1950s who pretty much banned the John Birch Society from the party and from the conservative movement. National Review matters.
    Last edited by LA Ute; 01-12-2019 at 04:17 PM.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    These researchers have academic integrity. Good for them. I hope they redo their study and republish it.

    https://nypost.com/2019/01/11/widely...y-researchers/

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    McCarthy strips Steve King of committee assignments after accusations he backed white supremacy

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...hite-supremacy

    I wonder if we’ll see any action about Reps. Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib, on the other side of the aisle.
    Last edited by LA Ute; 01-15-2019 at 08:49 AM.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    ]B]McCarthy strips Steve King of committee assignments after accusations he backed white supremacy[/B]

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...hite-supremacy

    I wonder if we’ll see any action about Reps. Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib, on the other side of the aisle.
    As the article said, he's had more than one strike. Remind me what Omar and Tlaib said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving Washington View Post
    As the article said, he's had more than one strike. Remind me what Omar and Tlaib said.
    I wasn't 100% serious. Here's Tlaib:

    Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) displayed a map on her first day in the House of Representatives with a note posted over Israel that reads “Palestine.”

    Buzzfeed reporter Hannah Allam posted on Twitter, “Someone has already made a slight alteration to the map that hangs in Rashida Tlaib’s new congressional office.”
    Even before she was sworn in on Thursday, which was attended by Women’s March leader and anti-Israel activist Linda Sarsour – who has been criticized for not condemning her ties with anti-Semitic Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan- Tlaib endorsed the BDS movmeent(sic) and announced her own upcoming congressional delegation trip to the West Bank, details of which have not be announced.

    https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/...939501596.html


    That's just a political position that will outrage many. But since I am constantly being challenged for not denouncing everything that any GOP officeholder says or does, I thought I'd have some fun with you guys.

    Then there's this:
    [I]


    Maybe there will be other Dems admonishing her for descending even beyond Trump's level (or maybe he has used obscenity in public, in front of children, in which case she's descending only to his level).

    Here's Ilhan Omar:

    Omar, a Muslim Somali-American elected last week to replace outgoing Rep. Keith Ellison (D., Minn.) in the House, fought accusations that she held anti-Israel views during her campaign. As part of that effort, she told a group of Jewish voters in the state that she opposed the economic boycott of Israel, calling it “counteractive” and “not helpful in getting that two-state solution.”
    But Omar’s tune has changed since winning the election. In an interview published Sunday by MuslimGirl, Omar said she “supports the BDS movement.”“Ilhan believes in and supports the BDS movement, and has fought to make sure people’s right to support it isn’t criminalized,” her campaign told MuslimGirl, which said Omar had been criticized for coming out against BDS. Omar’s campaign also pointed MuslimGirl to her vote against an anti-BDS bill in Minnesota’s state legislature and her argument that boycott movements were successful in South Africa.The comment is seen as a complete reversal by members of the Jewish community in her district.


    Just another political statement, not obscenity. Any denunciation would also be political. And I am aware that many here (like my friend Ma'ake) are not fond of Israel.

    One last shot:

    The 2018 midterm will bring many new faces to Washington, but few will find as much adoration as Ilhan Omar. One of the first two Muslim women elected to Congress, Omar, who will represent Minnesota’s 5th Congressional District, is a Somali refugee with a celebrity aura and an uplifting story.

    What went curiously unmentioned in all the flattering post-election coverage, however, was that Omar, who replaces Keith Ellison — a former acolyte of anti-Semitic minister Louis Farrakhan — also has some exotic notions about the Jewish people.
    In a 2012 tweet, for instance, the Democrat explained that “Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel. #Gaza #Palestine #Israel.”Meanwhile, the other Muslim woman headed to Congress is Michigan Democrat Rashida Tlaib, the daughter of Palestinian immigrants who wants to cut aid to the Jewish state because supporting it “doesn’t fit the values of our country.”

    Writer David Steinberg identified 105 news stories written in the immediate aftermath of Omar’s victory, and not a single one mentioned that she believed Jewry possessed mind-control abilities or that Israel was “evil.” No one called on the Democratic Party to distance itself from this rhetoric.No one at the partisan Anti-Defamation League, ostensibly tasked with stopping anti-Jewish libel but in reality busy hyperventilating over every far-flung right-wing bigot with a handful of supporters, paid her any attention.


    https://nypost.com/2018/11/11/heres-the-anti-semitism-the-media-doesnt-want-to-mention/amp/?fbclid=IwAR2O5AQX2LAEkgldG-T626BGml6-yXsfj2MVjn9ysGNgpAOpN8wO6AUGq7Q

    Hey, this is your political party, not mine!
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    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    And I am aware that many here (like my friend Ma'ake) are not fond of Israel.
    Foul ! !

    Given the events between that debate & today, I'm far more interested to see how we can get Andy Ludwig to sport a ponytail.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ma'ake View Post
    Foul ! !

    Given the events between that debate & today, I'm far more interested to see how we can get Andy Ludwig to sport a ponytail.

    I may have confused you with Pangloss, who is very sympathetic to the Arab cause and not a big fan of Israel. But maybe I’ve got him wrong too.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    I may have confused you with Pangloss, who is very sympathetic to the Arab cause and not a big fan of Israel. But maybe I’ve got him wrong too.
    I am sympathetic to the Palestinian cause and not a big fan of how Israel has been allowed to remove Palestinians from their homes and lands. The walls the Israelis have built along the westbank are reminiscent of the Berlin wall and how it prevented East Germans from traveling back and forth from home to work. The land on which the wall is built was seized from Palestinians without financial recompense. Primarily Palestinian areas within the original borders of Israel have been allowed to turn into ghettos due to a complete failure to provide infrastructure such as water, sewer, electricity, etc. which are provided to Israeli neighborhoods that they border or they have been overtaken by Israeli's. Israel has passed a law allowing it to seize the property of Palestinians for new Israeli settlements. While I understand that Israel is a target for terrorism and has the right to protect itself and its citizens, Israel has been opposed to the two-State solution since it was first established in 1948 and will do everything within its power to prevent a Palestinian state from ever existing again.

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    Will litigation against Big Pharma for opiod related issues turn out the same way as the tobacco litigation of the 80's?

    https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...medium=twitter

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    Quote Originally Posted by UTEopia View Post
    I am sympathetic to the Palestinian cause and not a big fan of how Israel has been allowed to remove Palestinians from their homes and lands. The walls the Israelis have built along the westbank are reminiscent of the Berlin wall and how it prevented East Germans from traveling back and forth from home to work. The land on which the wall is built was seized from Palestinians without financial recompense. Primarily Palestinian areas within the original borders of Israel have been allowed to turn into ghettos due to a complete failure to provide infrastructure such as water, sewer, electricity, etc. which are provided to Israeli neighborhoods that they border or they have been overtaken by Israeli's. Israel has passed a law allowing it to seize the property of Palestinians for new Israeli settlements. While I understand that Israel is a target for terrorism and has the right to protect itself and its citizens, Israel has been opposed to the two-State solution since it was first established in 1948 and will do everything within its power to prevent a Palestinian state from ever existing again.
    My own view is that Israel is not blameless in the conflict, which upsets many of my Jewish friends. However, I have heard (repeatedly) strong responses to most of the points you raise. I am not an expert in the conflict so won't wade into those. My point is that there seems to be a strong resurgence of anti-semitism on the left, exemplified by the statements of the two new Democratic members of Congress referred to in my post. The silence from their fellow Democrats has been deafening.

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    My own view is that Israel is not blameless in the conflict, which upsets many of my Jewish friends. However, I have heard (repeatedly) strong responses to most of the points you raise. I am not an expert in the conflict so won't wade into those. My point is that there seems to be a strong resurgence of anti-semitism on the left, exemplified by the statements of the two new Democratic members of Congress referred to in my post. The silence from their fellow Democrats has been deafening.
    There has unquestionably been an uptick in anti-Israel sentiment, in Europe, sometimes from liberal Jews who share resentment at the heavy handed tactics and aversion to a 2-state solution, and see this behavior as being a big part of the uptick in actual anti-Semitism. (From a narrow conservative Israeli standpoint, liberal Jews share the same ground as the KKK, which is, of course, absurd.)

    It also gives me even more appreciation for the world view of Native Americans, at least the elegant, sincere, powerful explanation/experience I had in a Shoshone sweat lodge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    My own view is that Israel is not blameless in the conflict, which upsets many of my Jewish friends. However, I have heard (repeatedly) strong responses to most of the points you raise. I am not an expert in the conflict so won't wade into those. My point is that there seems to be a strong resurgence of anti-semitism on the left, exemplified by the statements of the two new Democratic members of Congress referred to in my post. The silence from their fellow Democrats has been deafening.
    I think there is a fair way to question Israel's conduct and the US's policy in Israel and the greater middle east without being anti-Semitic just as I think one can support strong border control at the southern border without being anti-hispanic. Our current political and societal climate, however, makes it nearly impossible for those in the middle to say anything or accomplish anything because both political parties are governed and controlled by their most extreme wings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UTEopia View Post
    I think there is a fair way to question Israel's conduct and the US's policy in Israel and the greater middle east without being anti-Semitic just as I think one can support strong border control at the southern border without being anti-hispanic. Our current political and societal climate, however, makes it nearly impossible for those in the middle to say anything or accomplish anything because both political parties are governed and controlled by their most extreme wings.
    This thread might distinguish between Israel and Netanyahu/Likud.

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    The Democrats’ growing anti-Semitism problem

    This week, Democrats cut ties with an anti-Semitic activist organization only to choose an anti-Semitic congresswoman to serve on the House Foreitgn Affairs Committee. The Democratic Party is treating the left’s growing anti-Semitism problem as if it were a mere matter of bad optics. And that’s functionally equivalent to covering it up.

    On Monday morning, Women’s March co-president Tamika Mallory went on The View, where she faced a grilling by Meghan McCain over her support for outspoken anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan. “A lot of people, by a lot of people I include me in this, think you’re using your organization as anti-Semitism masked in activism,” McCain said, “and that you’re using identity politics to shield yourself from critiques.”

    McCain gave Mallory, who has called Farrakhan “the GOAT” (for Greatest Of All Time), an opportunity to denounce the Nation of Islam leader. Mallory chose instead to downplay her support for him. Less than a day later, the DNC pulled its sponsorship of the Women’s March. Great. But…

    On Tuesday night, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced that freshman Democratic congresswoman from Minnesota, Ilhan Omar, will sit on the House Foreign Affairs Committee. Some details about Omar: She supports the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanction (BDS) campaign aimed at destroying Israel. In 2012, she tweeted, “Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel.” This week, she went on CNN and defended her tweet. On Omar’s first day in office, she met with anti-Semitic Women’s March leader (and Farrakhan fan) Linda Sarsour.

    The House Foreign Affairs Committee oversees House bills and investigations pertaining to U.S. foreign policy, and it has the power to cut American arms and technology shipments to allies. So, while the Democrats are distancing themselves from anti-Semitic activists who organize a march every now and then, they’re raising up anti-Semites to positions of power in the federal government.

    Omar isn’t the only one. Rashida Tlaib, the freshman Democratic congresswoman from Michigan, posed for a picture with a Hezbollah supporter named Abbas Hamideh at her swearing-in ceremony in Detroit. She then dined with the man—who has railed against “criminal Zionists” and tweeted things like “Long live [Hezbollah leader] Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah!” Tlaib herself has a history of tweeting out support for anti-Israel terrorists. And recently, when a group of senators opposed a bill protecting localities that boycott Israel, Tlaib said that they “forgot what country they represent.”

    There is no cosmetic fix for the anti-Semitism that’s infusing the activist left and creeping into the Democratic Party. It runs to the ideological core of intersectionality—the left’s latest religion. By the lights of intersectionality, Jews are too powerful and too white to be the targets of bigotry. So an anti-Semite is perfectly suitable as an ally against some other form of prejudice—against, say, blacks or women. And when anti-Semitism appears on the left, progressives are ready to explain it away with an assortment of convenient nuances and contextual considerations: It’s not anti-Semitism, it’s anti-Zionism; consider the good work the person has done fighting for other groups; we don’t have to embrace everything someone says to appreciate the good in them, etc.

    These new congressional Democrats were celebrated far and wide when they were elected. They’re young, outspoken, and many are female. But that just makes them extraordinarily effective ambassadors for a poisonous ideology.

    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/a...rashida-tlaib/

    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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    Debbie Wasserman Schultz: Why I refuse to walk with the Washington Women’s March

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/2602396002/

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    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
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    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

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    I personally have no problem at all with the Gillette ad and think the overreaction is silly. I also agree with David French:

    https://youtu.be/02nBRzQzG4w

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Which overreaction? The overreaction of a handful of dumb dudes on Twitter or the overreaction of those pretending that the initial overreaction was widespread?
    Just the overreaction I saw on conservative websites and on blogs/op-eds by various right-of-center pundits. Piers Morgan went nuts about it too (he probably was using it as click-bait). I was curious, so I watched the ad, and not only did it not bother me at all, I found the negative reaction off-putting.

    I liked this one a lot:

    http://<a href="https://youtu.be/x_H..._HL0wiK4Zc</a>

    It is described as a reaction or response to the Gillette ad, but they both seem entirely compatible to me.

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    Among the potentially false narratives happening is the recent confrontation between an Native American and a catholic school group (and a group identifying themselves as black Hebrew Israelites).

    What has been portrayed and widely condemned as a provocation and mockery by white kids wearing MAGA hats on a Native American may be far more nuanced than first portrayed at best and basically false at worst. (And a stark reminder of why I'm glad I'm not a teenager anymore and certainly not in this day and age. Irrespective of this event - oh the hormonal weirdness of a group of teenaged boys gathered together. Can you imagine if everything you did at that age, malignant or benign, was caught on camera for eternity?)

    I'm guessing people's view of this will fall along political lines again, but I am tired of all the disinformation. I'd happily settle for slower news if it was more accurate.

    Weren't we supposed to be more informed than ever?






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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker Ute View Post
    Among the potentially false narratives happening is the recent confrontation between an Native American and a catholic school group (and a group identifying themselves as black Hebrew Israelites).

    What has been portrayed and widely condemned as a provocation and mockery by white kids wearing MAGA hats on a Native American may be far more nuanced than first portrayed at best and basically false at worst. (And a stark reminder of why I'm glad I'm not a teenager anymore and certainly not in this day and age. Irrespective of this event - oh the hormonal weirdness of a group of teenaged boys gathered together. Can you imagine if everything you did at that age, malignant or benign, was caught on camera for eternity?)

    I'm guessing people's view of this will fall along political lines again, but I am tired of all the disinformation. I'd happily settle for slower news if it was more accurate.

    Weren't we supposed to be more informed than ever?
    Here’s someone who seems to be trying to get it right.

    Viral standoff between a tribal elder and a high schooler is more complicated than it first seemed

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...nl_most&wpmm=1


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    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    --Yeats

    “True, we [lawyers] build no bridges. We raise no towers. We construct no engines. We paint no pictures - unless as amateurs for our own principal amusement. There is little of all that we do which the eye of man can see. But we smooth out difficulties; we relieve stress; we correct mistakes; we take up other men's burdens and by our efforts we make possible the peaceful life of men in a peaceful state.”

    --John W. Davis, founder of Davis Polk & Wardwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by LA Ute View Post
    Here’s someone who seems to be trying to get it right.

    Viral standoff between a tribal elder and a high schooler is more complicated than it first seemed

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...nl_most&wpmm=1


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    After seeing more on this, I don't want to be dismissive of some of the youth's apparent bad behavior by saying, "boys will be boys", but what I do know is the ADULTS involved were not being adults.


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