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  1. #361
    Leaving for SLC tonight. Gonna celebrate my Dad's 72nd birthday with him at the Cal game.

  2. #362
    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Leaving for SLC tonight. Gonna celebrate my Dad's 72nd birthday with him at the Cal game.
    Bringing your lucky button I hope.
    People who wear glasses/contacts are not allowed to celbrqte the rear 2020. Go eat some carrots or get LASIK.

  3. #363
    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrenrut View Post
    Bringing your lucky button I hope.
    I lost the button a few years ago. I was sad about it for a long time. I have no idea how I lost it. It was in my wallet for almost 20 years. The whole basketball thing is probably my fault. Well, me and Giacoletti.

  4. #364
    No Puka for the dogs, and Bam is warming up for the Utes. Been waiting all week for this!

  5. #365
    Ugh, do they know our snap counts or something? They are a fraction of a second from being offsides on every play.

  6. #366
    There are three teams that vastly out-recruit us in the Pac-12 - USC, UW, and Oregon. We can take our 3 star guys and coach them up and kick butt against most teams, but time after time, the talent gap shows against those three teams...especially on the lines.

  7. #367
    It appears fate is against us today. Just not meant to be.

  8. #368
    That crossed. Very clearly. Simple geometry, but you knew they would talk themselves out of it because they are idiots and cowards.

    Seriously, how can something as simple as replay consistently deliver bad results?
    Last edited by sancho; 11-02-2019 at 05:30 PM.

  9. #369
    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    It appears fate is against us today. Just not meant to be.
    I don’t know. We seem to be fighting back after every bad thing that happens. Not giving up or getting down.
    People who wear glasses/contacts are not allowed to celbrqte the rear 2020. Go eat some carrots or get LASIK.

  10. #370
    Quote Originally Posted by chrisrenrut View Post
    I don’t know. We seem to be fighting back after every bad thing that happens. Not giving up or getting down.
    Yup, I really hope we can add that post to my long list of bad takes. Remember after the NIU game, I said I don't see how this team is all that different from other good teams we've had in the past 5 years? So glad that was a bad take.

    Simpkins was further across the line on his catch than Huntley was on that TD run.

  11. #371
    I'm so happy. What an amazing game. Just finish it, now, Utes.

    If Tyler Huntley is not the unanimous conference POY, someone needs to lose their vote.

  12. #372
    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    That crossed. Very clearly. Simple geometry, but you knew they would talk themselves out of it because they are idiots and cowards.

    Seriously, how can something as simple as replay consistently deliver bad results?
    Why are their no cameras on the goaline? Put it on the pylon
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  13. #373
    Quote Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
    Why are their no cameras on the goaline? Put it on the pylon
    For sure, but it shouldn't be necessary when you can see it clearly. They were afraid to believe their eyes because they didn't have a goal line view. That is what is wrong with replay. Why in the world should we defer to the guy on the field? We absolutely should defer to the guy with slow motion replay. All the guy on the field does is blow call after call week after week. Why does his call stand against evidence that is deemed only 99% certain?

  14. #374
    Pretty amazing to have 60 minutes of football without anyone holding anyone.

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    Nick Ford should never not be playing RG.

    Dude is a beast.

  16. #376
    So, the first playoff rankings...my thoughts:

    - It's nice that they put Utah ahead of Oklahoma. I'm not sure they will keep us there. I think Oklahoma is very good. They mauled everyone until they blew it against KState. I'd be more afraid of them than Georgia, that's for sure. Maybe Clemson too. They will probably jump us when they beat Baylor.
    - I think Penn State ahead of Clemson is funny. The committee is signaling that they care about schedule, quality wins, etc, but if this were the final poll, they'd put Clemson in. And they'd be right to - we all know Clemson is better. But they figure they can keep Penn State up there until the Lions get wrecked by Ohio State in a few weeks.
    - The big question is still whether they would actually put an 11-1 SEC team (Bama/LSU) ahead of a 12-1 Pac-12 champion. I think they won't do it, but they might. They definitely want to.

    Utah needs help, but one of Bama/LSU and one of PSU/Minnesota will lose this weekend. That's a start.

  17. #377
    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    So, the first playoff rankings...my thoughts:

    - It's nice that they put Utah ahead of Oklahoma. I'm not sure they will keep us there. I think Oklahoma is very good. They mauled everyone until they blew it against KState. I'd be more afraid of them than Georgia, that's for sure. Maybe Clemson too. They will probably jump us when they beat Baylor.
    - I think Penn State ahead of Clemson is funny. The committee is signaling that they care about schedule, quality wins, etc, but if this were the final poll, they'd put Clemson in. And they'd be right to - we all know Clemson is better. But they figure they can keep Penn State up there until the Lions get wrecked by Ohio State in a few weeks.
    - The big question is still whether they would actually put an 11-1 SEC team (Bama/LSU) ahead of a 12-1 Pac-12 champion. I think they won't do it, but they might. They definitely want to.

    Utah needs help, but one of Bama/LSU and one of PSU/Minnesota will lose this weekend. That's a start.
    Hey genius, do you still cheer against teams we beat in the pre-season?
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  18. #378
    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Hey genius, do you still cheer against teams we beat in the pre-season?
    Only one of them.

  19. #379
    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Only one of them.


    I too have been an ardent Northern Illinois fan this year.

  20. #380
    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    So, the first playoff rankings...my thoughts:

    - It's nice that they put Utah ahead of Oklahoma. I'm not sure they will keep us there. I think Oklahoma is very good. They mauled everyone until they blew it against KState. I'd be more afraid of them than Georgia, that's for sure. Maybe Clemson too. They will probably jump us when they beat Baylor.
    - I think Penn State ahead of Clemson is funny. The committee is signaling that they care about schedule, quality wins, etc, but if this were the final poll, they'd put Clemson in. And they'd be right to - we all know Clemson is better. But they figure they can keep Penn State up there until the Lions get wrecked by Ohio State in a few weeks.
    - The big question is still whether they would actually put an 11-1 SEC team (Bama/LSU) ahead of a 12-1 Pac-12 champion. I think they won't do it, but they might. They definitely want to.

    Utah needs help, but one of Bama/LSU and one of PSU/Minnesota will lose this weekend. That's a start.
    This is all correct, but I think all of the angst about rankings when we still have four weeks to go in the regular season is just manufactured by the media to get people angsty. We have 2.5 Big Ten teams that could be eligible for the CFP: but in five weeks we will have (at most) one. Same with the Pac: there are two teams that claim to be worthy of a bid: in five weeks there will be (at most) one. If we are rooting for any one in particular (besides BYU to beat Liberty this week!), it is any team playing Clemson and LSU. There is a good argument that a 12-1 Utah should get in over a 11-1 Alabama; they will have beat the same number of ranked teams (1), Alabama didn't win its conference OR get to the conference championship game (something that hasn't stopped the committee from choosing them before), the last decade has yet to erase the memory of UTah wiping the field with the Crimson Tide, and everyone is sick of Bama. Now it's not iron-clad: Alabama has a better SOS than UTah and there loss would be to the number 1 team in the nation rather than a 4 loss (so far) USC. But there is an argument for Utah. If we are competing against LSU for that last spot, there really is no argument except that they didn't win their conference.

    So go LSU and everyone that plays Clemson! (and BYU, of course!)

  21. #381
    Quote Originally Posted by Applejack View Post
    This is all correct, but I think all of the angst about rankings when we still have four weeks to go in the regular season is just manufactured by the media to get people angsty. We have 2.5 Big Ten teams that could be eligible for the CFP: but in five weeks we will have (at most) one. Same with the Pac: there are two teams that claim to be worthy of a bid: in five weeks there will be (at most) one. If we are rooting for any one in particular (besides BYU to beat Liberty this week!), it is any team playing Clemson and LSU. There is a good argument that a 12-1 Utah should get in over a 11-1 Alabama; they will have beat the same number of ranked teams (1), Alabama didn't win its conference OR get to the conference championship game (something that hasn't stopped the committee from choosing them before), the last decade has yet to erase the memory of UTah wiping the field with the Crimson Tide, and everyone is sick of Bama. Now it's not iron-clad: Alabama has a better SOS than UTah and there loss would be to the number 1 team in the nation rather than a 4 loss (so far) USC. But there is an argument for Utah. If we are competing against LSU for that last spot, there really is no argument except that they didn't win their conference.

    So go LSU and everyone that plays Clemson! (and BYU, of course!)
    alabama still plays auburn ... they would have beaten two ranked teams.
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  22. #382
    Here is what it would take to make the playoff
    11-1 Utah beats 11-1 Oregon
    LSU wins out.
    Auburn Beats Alabama
    Clemson Loses to South Carolina (even better if they also lose the ACC champ game)
    Undefeated Minnesota (Beat Penn st this week) loses in Big10 champ game to undefeated Ohio st
    Oklahoma beats baylor then loses in the big 12 champ game.

    That would leave Undefeated LSU and Ohio State
    12-1 Clemson
    12-1 Utah
    12-1 Baylor
    And host of 2 loss teams
    "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

    "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

  23. #383
    Quote Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
    Here is what it would take to make the playoff
    11-1 Utah beats 11-1 Oregon
    LSU wins out.
    Auburn Beats Alabama
    Clemson Loses to South Carolina (even better if they also lose the ACC champ game)
    Undefeated Minnesota (Beat Penn st this week) loses in Big10 champ game to undefeated Ohio st
    Oklahoma beats baylor then loses in the big 12 champ game.

    That would leave Undefeated LSU and Ohio State
    12-1 Clemson
    12-1 Utah
    12-1 Baylor
    And host of 2 loss teams
    That is one of the scenarios that gets Utah in, but it's not the only one.

  24. #384
    Quote Originally Posted by Applejack View Post
    This is all correct, but I think all of the angst about rankings when we still have four weeks to go in the regular season is just manufactured by the media to get people angsty.
    If you read angst in my post, I wrote it poorly. No angst here.

    I don't really see the Alabama/LSU anti-symmetry that you do. If it's us vs 11-1 Bama, that's functionally the same as us vs 11-1 LSU. You can look at quality wins, losses, etc, but in that scenario, it all comes down to how much they value the conference championship. If they value it highly, Utah gets in. If they don't, the 11-1 SEC loser gets in.

    If anything, the anti-symmetry is on the Pac-12's end. A 12-1 Oregon probably has more of a chance than a 12-1 Utah because of the power of the Oregon brand relative to us.

    The narrowing down of Big12 and Big10 teams doesn't really matter because we know they would never put in two Big10 teams. The SEC is the only conference that could receive that kind of special treatment.
    Last edited by sancho; 11-07-2019 at 11:50 AM.

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