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    PAC-12 hoops 2018-2019

    UCLA fires Steve Alford after woeful start to season

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    Oregon st might be the best team in the conference
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    Akot is transferring from Arizona, per Twitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Man, we wanted him badly. Turned out to not be much of a player.
    Good player - wrong place to show it.

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    At arizona, he was being used as a 4. Here at Utah, he would have been in a similar role to Gach. Hard to say how things might have played out had he been here.

    I have got to think he is kicking himself a little. I mean, on his recruiting visit, they rolled out the red carpet for him. The MUSS was going crazy chanting his name. He would have been adored here. At AZ, he was just another brick in the wall.

    Some on twitter were hoping he might look our way as a landing spot and suffice it to say, that is unlikely (had he bounced for JUCO after his first year, then maybe but even then I dont know), if not impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sancho View Post
    Unless he really can't play, in which case he'd have been used as an example of poor coaching like Jayce.

    I guess it will be interesting to see how he does in a new home. I watch Duke transfers a bit, and sometimes they end up being good role players elsewhere (like Jeter right now). Kyle Wiltjer is the most successful example I can think of off the top of my head of someone who transferred out of a blue chip program due to lack of playing time. I'm sure there are other examples that I can't think of.
    Ha! Good point.

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    Fun to watch Oregon beat AZ at Tucson last night. Typical Duck team pressing D with elite shot blockers & a scramble offense. AZ. Not sure what they try to do, Sean Miller ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Standing ute View Post
    Fun to watch Oregon beat AZ at Tucson last night. Typical Duck team pressing D with elite shot blockers & a scramble offense. AZ. Not sure what they try to do, Sean Miller ??
    Imagine that Oregon team, but will Bol Bol blocking shots and draining Threes. So sad we won't see him play college ball.

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    At the quarter-pole of the league season, six teams with 2 or 3 losses. Washington and Arizona have some separation on the rest of the league. I suspect our road win at Arizona State will help us with a tiebreaker down the road. If we're to dream of another top 4 finish, I think it's imperative we sweep this week.

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    Washington absolutely destroyed Oregon State in Corvallis (the beavs had a boatload of 3s in the last 90 seconds to make the score look competitive). The Huskies are legit. They might get an auto-bid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCalPat View Post
    At the quarter-pole of the league season, six teams with 2 or 3 losses. Washington and Arizona have some separation on the rest of the league. I suspect our road win at Arizona State will help us with a tiebreaker down the road. If we're to dream of another top 4 finish, I think it's imperative we sweep this week.
    What’s the greater mystery this year? The secret behind Utah’s resurgence, or the fact that we lost to what appears to be a god-awful Arizona team, one coming off quite likely the worst three-game stretch that program has seen since before Lute Olson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoCalPat View Post
    What’s the greater mystery this year? The secret behind Utah’s resurgence, or the fact that we lost to what appears to be a god-awful Arizona team, one coming off quite likely the worst three-game stretch that program has seen since before Lute Olson?
    You can’t really compare us playing at AZ with them at full strength (in a close game), to AZ playing at UCLA and USC without Jeter. Jeter tied for the high scorer against us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Applejack View Post
    Washington absolutely destroyed Oregon State in Corvallis (the beavs had a boatload of 3s in the last 90 seconds to make the score look competitive). The Huskies are legit. They might get an auto-bid!
    Washington has struck coaching gold again—stealing Boeheim’s protege because the mentor just wouldn’t retire. Sometimes change is good. Everyone fretted when they fired his predecessor who’d bagged the no. 1 recruiting class in the country. Sometimes change is good.

    More confirmation of a theory of mine: Seattle gets more than its share of extraordinary people because of the amazing natural beauty (also a lot of dipshits).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    Washington has struck coaching gold again—stealing Boeheim’s protege because the mentor just wouldn’t retire. Sometimes change is good. Everyone fretted when they fired his predecessor who’d bagged the no. 1 recruiting class in the country. Sometimes change is good.

    More confirmation of a theory of mine: Seattle gets more than its share of extraordinary people because of the amazing natural beauty (also a lot of dipshits).
    Hopkins is also a West Coast guy (prepped at Mater Dei HS) and was one of the first recruits Boeheim brought in when he used ESPN's exposure to get kids from SoCal to come spend winters in Syracuse, N.Y. It was a double-whammy for the entire league when UW got him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleUte View Post
    (also a lot of dipshits).
    You don't say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UBlender View Post
    You don't say.
    Et tut, Brute?
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    I think the standings will play out from worst to first:

    12 Cal
    11 Wazzu
    10 Stanford
    9 Colorado
    8 Utah
    7 Oregon
    6 usc
    5 Asu
    4 ore st
    3 Arizona
    2 UCLA
    Wash

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    Through the first half of conference play, the league is now 11-51 in Q1 games and 22-36 in Q2 games. Of the Q1 wins, only 5 of them are out of conference and 3 of those 5 belong to ASU.

    I think ultimately there will be two locks from the league: Washington (best team) and ASU (best resume). The only way a third gets in is if someone makes a big time run in the second half of the season (Oregon, OSU, UCLA, USC), or if someone that is not ASU or Washington wins the Pac 12 tournament.
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    Lunardi released an updated bracket today with Washington in as an 8 and ASU among the last four byes and a 10 seed. I actually think both of those teams have a chance to bump up their seed in the back half. He's also got Arizona as one of is first or next four out. Should be interesting to see how it all plays out in the back half of league play.
    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    Lunardi released an updated bracket today with Washington in as an 8 and ASU among the last four byes and a 10 seed. I actually think both of those teams have a chance to bump up their seed in the back half. He's also got Arizona as one of is first or next four out. Should be interesting to see how it all plays out in the back half of league play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by concerned View Post
    If you can bring yourself to have any interest
    I have plenty of interest. Is this in reference to my other post about the next games? I'm all in baby...to the bitter end.
    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    I have plenty of interest. Is this in reference to my other post about the next games? I'm all in baby...to the bitter end.
    Nó. It is in reference to which and how many teams get bids because we aint one of them
    Last edited by concerned; 02-05-2019 at 03:57 PM.

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    Colo beats UCLA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
    Colo beats UCLA
    Tad and Larry have this in common - their teams generally get better as the season progresses.

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    WSU crushing ASU in Tempe

    73-53 5 mins left

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorcho View Post
    WSU crushing ASU in Tempe

    73-53 5 mins left
    WSU wins 91-70

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorcho View Post
    WSU wins 91-70
    Absolutely crazy. ASU owns 3 of the 5 Q1 wins for the Pac 12 this year, and they just lost to a team that is 200+ in NET rankings.
    “It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.”

    Well, because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    Absolutely crazy. ASU owns 3 of the 5 Q1 wins for the Pac 12 this year, and they just lost to a team that is 200+ in NET rankings.
    Pulling for WSU to get the road sweep.

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    Stanford. Up 13 near halftime vs Oregon st

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrumNFeather View Post
    Absolutely crazy. ASU owns 3 of the 5 Q1 wins for the Pac 12 this year, and they just lost to a team that is 200+ in NET rankings.
    I'll keep saying it. Hurley is borderline psychotic and his teams continue to burn out by January every year. Rinse and repeat.

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